Daily Interactions With Women

[Samseau]

Now, some say that God is not just going to plop a wife in your lap if you are a monk living in a cave and that you must "get out there," and "make an effort" to meet women. I disagree. With God all things are possible. God produces miracles everyday and you only need one. God's will is so powerful that you could be hiding in the woods in a log cabin where no one can find you and if God wanted you to have a wife he would simply send a lost hiker in the form of a beautiful woman knocking on your door asking you for help in finding the trail back to her car. No need to go anywhere, no need to do anything, no need to become anything except a servant of Christ.

Not only can God send a woman your way, if He wants to, but, Satan can and will do so in order to tempt men as well.

There was a certain monk, whose name I cannot remember, who made a pledge of chastity. He decided to live deep out in the forest in order to avoid temptation. He built a small cabin and lived a peaceful and holy life.

However, one night, a massive storm swept through the forest, and the monk heard a banging at his door. A woman, not too young or old, was lost in the woods in the inclement weather. Feeling pity and a sense of obligation, the monk let the woman inside to stay warm and dry off. Soon however, the woman started to flirt with the monk, and became sexually aggressive. The monk ended up fleeing his own cabin into the storm!

Deciding not to ever have to face such temptation again, the monk decided to find a small island out in the sea, and built a cabin and lived off fish. He again lived a peaceful and holy life for many years, but one night a massive storm came. A small ship crashed onto his island, and the only survivor was a young virgin maiden! He tended to her wounds but then she too became attracted to him and begin to tempt him.

He ended up building a boat and fleeing the island from the woman, and lived out the rest of his days on the top of a mountain.

I have had similar experiences where sexual temptation comes when you least expect it in ways that Satan will try and tempt you with. Some particularly uncouth married women come to mind.

Now, the point here is that if Satan can do these things, imagine how much more God can do for you?

 

[Australia Sucks]

Bitch shields are a response to women who've been used up by multiple alphas. They become hurt and confused, and as a result will resent men.

Young virgin maidens almost never have bitch shields. It is entirely a result of being used up.

I agree 100%. It’s very rare that I’ve met a young virgin who has a bitch shield. Which unfortunately means that western women by default have bitch shields because they are whores.

 

[Australia Sucks]

Not only can God send a woman your way, if He wants to, but, Satan can and will do so in order to tempt men as well.

There was a certain monk, whose name I cannot remember, who made a pledge of chastity. He decided to live deep out in the forest in order to avoid temptation. He built a small cabin and lived a peaceful and holy life.

However, one night, a massive storm swept through the forest, and the monk heard a banging at his door. A woman, not too young or old, was lost in the woods in the inclement weather. Feeling pity and a sense of obligation, the monk let the woman inside to stay warm and dry off. Soon however, the woman started to flirt with the monk, and became sexually aggressive. The monk ended up fleeing his own cabin into the storm!

Deciding not to ever have to face such temptation again, the monk decided to find a small island out in the sea, and built a cabin and lived off fish. He again lived a peaceful and holy life for many years, but one night a massive storm came. A small ship crashed onto his island, and the only survivor was a young virgin maiden! He tended to her wounds but then she too became attracted to him and begin to tempt him.

He ended up building a boat and fleeing the island from the woman, and lived out the rest of his days on the top of a mountain.

I have had similar experiences where sexual temptation comes when you least expect it in ways that Satan will try and tempt you with. Some particularly uncouth married women come to mind.

Now, the point here is that if Satan can do these things, imagine how much more God can do for you?

Who knew all I needed to do all along was to become a monk and isolate myself from society then women will chase me

 

[Lawrence87]

The God pill is the only real answer to the state of things when it comes to women. People who haven't taken the God pill will scoff at that, but the nature of the God pill is that you won't see results from refusing it. That sounds paradoxical, people generally want the results laid out for them before they consider something. But God doesn't work like that. Anyone who allows God into their life, even if its in a small way to begin with will see that the materialism that most people subscribe to is nonsense.

Without God the whole endeavour of finding a wife seems like an impossible task. It's easy to become black pilled when it comes to looking at things in purely statistical terms. With God all things are possible. The weight of the world is heavy, sometimes borderline unbearable even for the God-pilled man but there is always hope, and developing trust in God is the most important thing we can do. Trust in Him is rewarded, thinking we know better than God gets us nowhere.

Lots of guys look at things and immediately they are robbed of their hope. Its totally understandable, but when you say to yourself 'there are no good women out there' God might just reply 'well, sounds like you know best...'. Trust that God will bring you the right woman at the right time and don't worry about it. That is not to say don't do anything towards that aim, of course God can't bring you a woman if you are unemployed, cannot talk to them, and look like you live in a hedgerow, but you should not allow yourself to become black-pilled.

Even in purely pragmatic terms, who is the good wife material going to choose? The cynical, jaded guy with a bleak outlook, or the hopeful, God-fearing man, who sees goodness and has a positive outlook? But it goes beyond mere pragmatism, and only those who take the step will know.

The single best thing a man can do to increase his chances of finding a good woman is to start praying, trusting in God and going to church.

 

[Droughtmeat]

If we bring this all back to Christianity and a belief in God then there is nothing to do except to be obedient to His will. Focusing on acquiring women or "a woman" is like focusing on acquiring a Ferrari. Material pursuits and chasing sense pleasures lead to sin which is antithetical to God and spiritual development. With regards to women, us men only need one. And God will provide you with The One if it is His will for your life and you are a good enough Christian man over a long enough period of time. It's almost as if the more you focus on women, the more you push them away. The key is to work on yourself alone from a Christian perspective so that when opportunity knocks and God introduces you to a woman of high Christian value that you are prepared and ready to act (marriage). You cannot be prepared for this woman that God places before you if you are addicted to secular ideas about women that revolve around obedience, submission, lust, femininity, looks, virginity, and possession. One must let go in order to recieve.

Now, some say that God is not just going to plop a wife in your lap if you are a monk living in a cave and that you must "get out there," and "make an effort" to meet women. I disagree. With God all things are possible. God produces miracles everyday and you only need one. God's will is so powerful that you could be hiding in the woods in a log cabin where no one can find you and if God wanted you to have a wife he would simply send a lost hiker in the form of a beautiful woman knocking on your door asking you for help in finding the trail back to her car. No need to go anywhere, no need to do anything, no need to become anything except a servant of Christ.

As much as I love this level of faith, historically speaking, Christians have always had to take massive action and struggle to get what they want.

The Crusades didn't happen as a result of everyone sitting at home and waiting for God to help them. Instead Christians had to put up Europe's greatest fight to chase the invaders out.

The Amish were getting their freedoms and rights taken away by the Dem administration. Thus, they did something unprecedented and voted in huge numbers.

You're suggesting that a feminine Christian woman is going to come into the woods, chat you up, express her feelings for you and lead you to a happy marriage and family life. I doubt that will happen.

What will indeed happen is that God will give you strength, guidance and help you avoid bad women because you'll be filtering for Christian, feminine women, you won't be driven by lust, status, alcohol, drugs and other things that could cloud your judgement.

Thus, faith first and foremost, but as men it's still on us to make things happen.

 

[easy_c]

As much as I love this level of faith, historically speaking, Christians have always had to take massive action and struggle to get what they want.

The Crusades didn't happen as a result of everyone sitting at home and waiting for God to help them. Instead Christians had to put up Europe's greatest fight to chase the invaders out.

The Amish were getting their freedoms and rights taken away by the Dem administration. Thus, they did something unprecedented and voted in huge numbers.

You're suggesting that a feminine Christian woman is going to come into the woods, chat you up, express her feelings for you and lead you to a happy marriage and family life. I doubt that will happen.

What will indeed happen is that God will give you strength, guidance and help you avoid bad women because you'll be filtering for Christian, feminine women, you won't be driven by lust, status, alcohol, drugs and other things that could cloud your judgement.

Thus, faith first and foremost, but as men it's still on us to make things happen.

Well said. Very well said.

The correct course of action is to go for your goals, but make sure you're going about it in a way that is consistent with your values.

This means you don't shake the whore tree and expect a wife to fall out. You need to be both looking in a way and place that is truly Christian (which rules out most stereotypically "Christian Girl" venues for reasons secular figures have adequately explained) and align yours with those needs as well.

For starters, do Toastmasters. It's an odd recommendation I know but learning to communicate the way a man who leads the room does is important.

 

[ginsu]

 

[Blade Runner]

Now, the point here is that if Satan can do these things, imagine how much more God can do for you?

You're leaving out a point here which makes the story a bit more trite: Satan can do that because there are so many around to utilize like that, and for the short term. Few are around for God to use that are in the "wife material" category; it just is what it is at this point. And no, I'm not suggesting anything about myself or saying I "deserve" X, Y or Z. What I'm saying is that just like God can't give me greater skill unless I practice, or better health unless I eat well and exercise, he can't just fashion some human out of the blue for any number of men, even a small number of men, if the demographics and the state of the world is at it is. He has to work with our decisions because that's part of his love (non coercion) and plan.

Anyone who allows God into their life, even if its in a small way to begin with will see that the materialism that most people subscribe to is nonsense.

I totally agree. If you are successful, you'll also then be shown how little that ultimately means, which is interesting. But also this is important: part of the God pill is trust and outcome independence. When you have such a point of view, it's actually a guarantee to no be "disappointed." Funny how that works, ie it has to by definition.

Without God the whole endeavour of finding a wife seems like an impossible task. It's easy to become black pilled when it comes to looking at things in purely statistical terms. With God all things are possible. The weight of the world is heavy, sometimes borderline unbearable even for the God-pilled man but there is always hope, and developing trust in God is the most important thing we can do. Trust in Him is rewarded, thinking we know better than God gets us nowhere.

As above, for a single individual, yes, but that's just after the fact analysis. Much of what we think as humans is important (wife children etc) isn't all that important in the eternal sense. It's hard to convince that to people though since family and legacy seems pretty important in human evolution and history.

That is not to say don't do anything towards that aim, of course God can't bring you a woman if you are unemployed, cannot talk to them, and look like you live in a hedgerow, but you should not allow yourself to become black-pilled.

So there are conditions and constraints? Hmm.

As much as I love this level of faith, historically speaking, Christians have always had to take massive action and struggle to get what they want.

That's my point. And Magellan and Columbus had to sail the ocean blue because the elites of their time also locked them out.

What will indeed happen is that God will give you strength, guidance and help you avoid bad women because you'll be filtering for Christian, feminine women, you won't be driven by lust, status, alcohol, drugs and other things that could cloud your judgement.

That is correct.

The occasions on which I party, booze, then get worse sleep, etc are all remarkably consistent with behaviors that set you up for failure from a "sin" point of view. The problem is that we aren't good, that is most of us, with going long periods of time without experiencing something, or we get "bored" etc.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

As much as I love this level of faith, historically speaking, Christians have always had to take massive action and struggle to get what they want.

You're suggesting that a feminine Christian woman is going to come into the woods, chat you up, express her feelings for you and lead you to a happy marriage and family life. I doubt that will happen.

No, I'm not suggesting that this will happen to me (or anyone else for that matter). But stranger things have happened. Personally, I don't really care if something like that happens to me or not, at least not anymore (I'm in my 50's). Much of the time I no longer have any desire for women, or "a woman." I can take it or leave it. The reason being is that I am five years relationship free and my life is improving in ways that previously were not possible while a woman was by my side. I'm now realizing that my relationships with these modern, feminist, career driven women have always stifled me and brought me down (due to living in sin with them). Without a woman in my life I am making and saving more money, I'm more efficient, I'm healthier, I'm a much better Christian, my house is cleaner, my laundry is always done, healthy gourmet home cooked meals are served every night, I'm pursuing my many hobbies all of the time, and I'm just overall happier and more successful.

Now it takes two to tango so I'm not blaming women for all my relationship troubles with them. I too can be a real piece of work. I come from a broken home, my father abandon me, my step father beat me, and my mother is bat sh*t crazy. But since I've taken a vow of celibacy, stopped drinking, started praying everyday, and started ignoring all women all of the time I've never been happier. God is going to have to deliver the perfect woman to the door of my cabin in the woods to knock me off of this enjoyable and prosperous path that I'm on. I will not go looking for her and I will make no effort to attract her. I have more important things to attend to.

 

[Australia Sucks]

Much of what we think as humans is important (wife children etc) isn't all that important in the eternal sense. It's hard to convince that to people though since family and legacy seems pretty important in human evolution and history.

Indeed. If you have kids, 300 years from now your descendants will have less than 1% of your DNA and likely won't even know who you were and neither will you be alive to see their accomplishments. Legacy is a bunk concept.

 

[Australia Sucks]

God is going to have to deliver the perfect woman to the door of my cabin in the woods to knock me off of this enjoyable and prosperous path that I'm on. I will not go looking for her and I will make no effort to attract her. I have more important things to attend to.

That honestly sounds like sour grapes. Its the same thing as those insufferable feminists who claim "I don't need no man". The reality is that humans do not like to be alone for extended periods and the hermit monks are 1 in one million type of people.

Once you have enough money why don't you consider moving to a place where quality of women is much higher so its easier to find a good woman (Belarus, Moldova, Romania, Russia, etc).

 

[Острог]

There was a certain monk, whose name I cannot remember, who made a pledge of chastity. He decided to live deep out in the forest in order to avoid temptation. He built a small cabin and lived a peaceful and holy life.

However, one night, a massive storm swept through the forest, and the monk heard a banging at his door. A woman, not too young or old, was lost in the woods in the inclement weather. Feeling pity and a sense of obligation, the monk let the woman inside to stay warm and dry off. Soon however, the woman started to flirt with the monk, and became sexually aggressive. The monk ended up fleeing his own cabin into the storm!

Deciding not to ever have to face such temptation again, the monk decided to find a small island out in the sea, and built a cabin and lived off fish. He again lived a peaceful and holy life for many years, but one night a massive storm came. A small ship crashed onto his island, and the only survivor was a young virgin maiden! He tended to her wounds but then she too became attracted to him and begin to tempt him.

He ended up building a boat and fleeing the island from the woman, and lived out the rest of his days on the top of a mountain.

Sorry but I don't believe this to be an actual occurrence. An island? Top of the mountain? Come on.

 

[FrancisK]

Indeed. If you have kids, 300 years from now your descendants will have less than 1% of your DNA and likely won't even know who you were and neither will you be alive to see their accomplishments. Legacy is a bunk concept.

Ehhh...I want to argue because that's hard to swallow but I'll be honest many times I have walked through the mausoleum and looked at century old dates and thought about the concept that nobody possibly visits this person anymore or cares that their body is here.

 

[Острог]

Ehhh...I want to argue because that's hard to swallow but I'll be honest many times I have walked through the mausoleum and looked at century old dates and thought about the concept that nobody possibly visits this person anymore or cares that their body is here.

That's true but it's a mistake to focus on the memories of this world which itself is ultimately going to pass. In heaven no one is forgotten. What matters is the eternal, living memory of these people in the eyes of God and the fact that they live with Him forever.

 

[FrancisK]

That's true but it's a mistake to focus on the memories of this world which is ultimately going to pass in it's entirety. What matters is the living memory of these people in the eyes of God and the fact that they live with The Father.

Amen brother

 

[GodfatherPartTwo]

You're leaving out a point here which makes the story a bit more trite: Satan can do that because there are so many around to utilize like that, and for the short term. Few are around for God to use that are in the "wife material" category; it just is what it is at this point. And no, I'm not suggesting anything about myself or saying I "deserve" X, Y or Z. What I'm saying is that just like God can't give me greater skill unless I practice, or better health unless I eat well and exercise, he can't just fashion some human out of the blue for any number of men, even a small number of men, if the demographics and the state of the world is at it is. He has to work with our decisions because that's part of his love (non coercion) and plan.

This is why the "non-coercion" "God can't" theology is fundamentally useless and black pilled. If God can't do anything for you, then why do you bother? It is not that God can't change you. He changes people all the time. It is that you cannot change yourself.

 

[Samseau]

You're leaving out a point here which makes the story a bit more trite: Satan can do that because there are so many around to utilize like that, and for the short term. Few are around for God to use that are in the "wife material" category; it just is what it is at this point. And no, I'm not suggesting anything about myself or saying I "deserve" X, Y or Z. What I'm saying is that just like God can't give me greater skill unless I practice, or better health unless I eat well and exercise, he can't just fashion some human out of the blue for any number of men, even a small number of men, if the demographics and the state of the world is at it is. He has to work with our decisions because that's part of his love (non coercion) and plan.

This isn't true, although God does not violate our free will he can still punish us and move people in certain directions.

For example, imagine if a massive solar storm comes by earth, permanently wrecking the power grid for the next 50 years. Women will immediately become dependent upon men again, for women who refuse will die. It's not coercion, but the constraints of nature are there to prevent us from becoming total monsters.

So rule out nothing, we have no idea what God has planned.

 

[Blade Runner]

No, I'm not suggesting that this will happen to me (or anyone else for that matter). But stranger things have happened. Personally, I don't really care if something like that happens to me or not, at least not anymore (I'm in my 50's). Much of the time I no longer have any desire for women, or "a woman." I can take it or leave it. The reason being is that I am five years relationship free and my life is improving in ways that previously were not possible while a woman was by my side. I'm now realizing that my relationships with these modern, feminist, career driven women have always stifled me and brought me down (due to living in sin with them). Without a woman in my life I am making and saving more money, I'm more efficient, I'm healthier, I'm a much better Christian, my house is cleaner, my laundry is always done, healthy gourmet home cooked meals are served every night, I'm pursuing my many hobbies all of the time, and I'm just overall happier and more successful.

This is a healthy post.

Indeed. If you have kids, 300 years from now your descendants will have less than 1% of your DNA and likely won't even know who you were and neither will you be alive to see their accomplishments. Legacy is a bunk concept.

I've reasoned this with the secular humanists, who even have to admit that when the sun implodes or an ice age wipes everyone out, your DNA "passing on to the next generation" is a laughable idea. In the long run, we're all dead, and their claim at meaning is dead too, since it is employ. They have no response to this of course, because it implies that God is the only real meaning - and they don't know or like that.

Ehhh...I want to argue because that's hard to swallow but I'll be honest many times I have walked through the mausoleum and looked at century old dates and thought about the concept that nobody possibly visits this person anymore or cares that their body is here.

This is uncomfortable for us humans, but it is a reality, and akin to my point above - in the long run, we're all dust.

It is not that God can't change you. He changes people all the time. It is that you cannot change yourself.

We've been through this before. He can change you, but you have to be willing. Similarly, he can't just (won't) create some fully made woman and lead her to your front door through intuition or some magical process. He works with the brokenness of the creation, but only when we respond to a call, can anything actually happen.

I've been honest about the women thing for a long time. This generation probably doesn't suit me in the sense that I was raised by traditional people and the dearth of traditional women who were willing to need, see, and attach themselves to a man was very low, because they became base versions of themselves, and also I knew I would be successful, so I was essentially max limited (uncommon religion in the west, expectation of women that was high for this time period, etc). I'm fully aware that my ask is "high" for this generation, and now I'm old enough to realize that the culture doesn't like particular ages of men and women, and can't discern much of the practical aspects of life. It is basically normies responding to very natural impulses, surrounded by normie consensus ideas, which is a trap if you are a traditional, successful man.

 

[Blade Runner]

This isn't true, although God does not violate our free will he can still punish us and move people in certain directions.

That line of thinking isn't out of my paradigm. What you hint at though here is a problem on the topic of women, in that they are limited in time to be attractive (and this could be my fault but most guys are literally built like this, genetically), and thus if they are punished or go through, I likely won't be at the end of that waiting for them finally to agree to live well and harmoniously. Just sayin'

It's not coercion, but the constraints of nature are there to prevent us from becoming total monsters.

I agree. This run has taken out nearly all historical constraints and made for very chaotic aspects of female nature to come out. Are there some benefits that came to men over this time ("peace", food, entertainment)? Sure. But the truth is that it really just hooked up a single generation and then starved the subsequent ones out. Then penalized the shit out of them legally, and job-wise, since it's generationally selfish war in many ways.

 

[Moderately Lethal]

Guys who grew up in Eastern Europe...when they see American CIK-ers (who have not been to EE) praising Eastern European women:

"Then he said" : (laughing) "Girls in Eastern Europe are loyal, conservative and family-oriented" (Bursts out laughing)