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Like others, I wonder where you claim to have gotten your knowledge and experience.
I was born in EE and lived there until the age of 21. But what do I know, right?
This seems like some projection. While EE might not be for everyone, certainly you are closer to the troll if you claim the west, or some places in SEA, are "better than EE."
As far as finding a decent, feminine, loyal, family-oriented wife The whole of Southeast Asia is SIGNIFICANTLY better than any place in eastern Europe.
But even in places like Papua-New Guinea or Solomon Islands are preferable to EE. Some Middle-class girls in Port Moresby or Honiara would give half their arm to marry and have children with a White male. And they are more likely to stay loyal than bitches from EE.
The truth is: men who were born and grew up in EE don't put EE women on a pedestal for a reason. I guess you have never questioned why that is.
This is the main problem of modernity: most people not realizing how much technology has changed them, or created totally unrealistic expectations, or given ideas of false sense of security (I think women believe they have options that are fantasy and fake, largely). At this point, it's hard to even come across a younger or attractive woman in the west that isn't a total piece of work, annoying, and/or "celebrity" trying to monetize life. That actually is available in other places, thus the overseas decision for some.

Your post was a good one but where you are right in direction, you are off in degree and detail. There isn't an abundance of anything necessarily, but the difference in scale of good men compared to good or younger women is HUGE. I've mentioned this many times before because it's true. Women may be suffering but I don't see it in any capacity as equal given their predilection or desire for the material, which is in abundance, actually. What's not in abundance that is what a man seeks? Young and feminine women. I don't think this is debatable. There is a vicious cycle precisely because, whether right or wrong, women are led by bad things and aren't able to see things in the future nor do they want to plan ahead. All that does is force men's hands to not take them seriously, since they don't take their biology seriously, which is a short window of attractiveness that should be traded to go alongside a solid man, and be his helpmate. What does that leave for men with T? Non serious women and often just sex and disappointment for both parties in the relationship world.

It's pretty clear. Women were steered to become like men, mini economic units working for a system, not alongside their husbands to raise a family.

I dispute this too. Much of the 20th century is a similar fiction, if you dig deeper.
 
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"Australia Suck"(AS) out of the the frying pan into the fire:

AS in 2025:
"White Australia women are difficult...so I am moving to eastern Europe. Everyone here -except one guy- is telling me women in Eastern Europe are less materialistic and more loyal than Western White women, so it must be true. Only one guy on this forum is trying to discourage me of going there, but surely he is just jealous of my future successes with Eastern European women.

AS in 2026:
"Hi guys. I am in Miami, Florida. Sadly most women are very materialistic here and none of them are virgins. Plus there are too many non-Whites and I am starting to dislike that. Most of you guys here are telling me that the American Midwest is filled with traditional , virgin White women. Plus guys here also say the harsh winters keep the non-whites out. I have found an affordable property in Detroit,Michigan. I am buying a one-way ticket to go there.. Wait, one guy is trying to tell me Detroit is actually a Black-majority... but what does he know, right? He is just jealous of me. "

While the scenario you're describing could actually occur and, as I said earlier, you name valid points, it would be interesting to hear what your experience with EE women has been like, which countries (broadly speaking) you spent a couple of months in, what your social circle over there looked like (was it mainly expats or locals?), how and if your experience changed when you got to B2/C1 language proficiency etc.

What's not in abundance that is what a man seeks? Young and feminine women. I don't think this is debatable.

Yep, and it's only getting worse. Here is just an example from an article about Catalonia in Spain where a whopping 25% of the Gen Z cohort identify as "non heterosexual". That means 25% of potential partners are already eliminated and it also lowers the bar for what is considered acceptable behavior, style and even values among hetersexuals.

I think we are more than well aware of the potential pitfalls, now we are just repeatedly cutting ourselves so that is why i try to walk it back. We are not the same caliber of men our ancestors where either so why are we expecting this level from the women.

It's an interesting line of thinking. On the one hand, the men that existed 100 years ago would stand no chance in the current dating market as individuals. But, on the other hand, if all men suddenly morphed into versions of themselves with traits men had 100 years ago, a revolution would obviously take place, governments would get overthrown, voting rights taken away etc. I think the main difference is that today's men would happily accept women with their ancestors' traits, whereas today's women would be terrified by those kind of men.

Therefore, we're at a point where it's difficult to describe what women are actually looking for, cause the feminine modern man is clearly turning her off, but the thought of being a housewife makes their stomach churn too.
 
Plus there are too many non-Whites and I am starting to dislike that.
You are just making things up at this point. I have nothing against non-whites. If you read my posting history you will see I have even dated non-white women when I was in Latin America (Peru, Mexico, Chile, Colombia). Unlike some in the forum I am also open to non-white women in the future if I find a good one.
 
As far as finding a decent, feminine, loyal, family-oriented wife The whole of Southeast Asia is SIGNIFICANTLY better than any place in eastern Europe.
But even in places like Papua-New Guinea or Solomon Islands are preferable to EE. Some Middle-class girls in Port Moresby or Honiara would give half their arm to marry and have children with a White male. And they are more likely to stay loyal than bitches from EE.
The truth is: men who were born and grew up in EE don't put EE women on a pedestal for a reason. I guess you have never questioned why that is.
The problem with countries in southeast asia in general is the percentage of attractive women is low and the ones that are attractive know they are attractive and have attitude (albeit less than western women). For example you see a lot of western expats going to the Philippines are marrying 5s (still better than what they can get in the west) meanwhile the local mixed race upper class women that are attractive (mixed race Japanese Filipina, mixed race Spanish Filipina, mixed race Chinese Filipina, etc) for the most part prefer to marry high status local men rather than expats. At least that is what I have heard from guys who visited the Philippines but I will probably go myself sometime in the future to check it out.
 
So...I belong to a matchmaker site for free where I am in their database for women to look at. The other day, I get an email from my matchmaker who sends me the pic and profile of a 50-something woman. Well, not only was she not attractive, but the matchmaker said, "Her friends describe her as a badass." Totally not joking. Both the match and the matchmaker thought this was some kind of an attractive quality to get across to me. lol

I had to "sit this woman down" and explain to her that men are not attracted to women who describe themselves as such.
 
"Australia Suck"(AS) out of the the frying pan into the fire:

AS in 2025:
"White Australian women are difficult...so I am moving to Eastern Europe. Everyone here -except one guy- is telling me women in Eastern Europe are less materialistic and more loyal than Western White women, so it must be true. Only one guy on this forum is trying to discourage me of going there, but surely he is just jealous of my future successes with Eastern European women.

AS in 2026:
"Hi guys. I am in Miami, Florida. Sadly most women are very materialistic here and none of them are virgins. Plus there are too many non-Whites and I am starting to dislike that. Most of you guys here are telling me that the American Midwest is filled with traditional , virgin White women. Plus guys here also say the harsh winters keeps the non-whites out. I have found an affordable property online that is located in Detroit,Michigan. I am buying a one-way ticket to go there... Wait, one guy on this forum is trying to tell me Detroit is actually a Black-majority city... but what does he know, right? He is just jealous of me. "

You aren't making much sense, please be a bit more respectful to those you disagree with.
 
The truth is: men who were born and grew up in EE don't put EE women on a pedestal for a reason. I guess you have never questioned why that is.
Fair point. I have questioned a lot, but as in many places the busted dudes test reigns, and in Ukraine for example, guys die frequently at age 50-something or are drunks it's hard to decipher, especially when the women can at times be the best lookers in the world.
Yep, and it's only getting worse. Here is just an example from an article about Catalonia in Spain where a whopping 25% of the Gen Z cohort identify as "non heterosexual".
Spain has been bad for years, but yes the West, and EU in particular, is toast.
I had to "sit this woman down" and explain to her that men are not attracted to women who describe themselves as such.
The funniest part is that that isn't anywhere near as bad as the 50-something part.
 
Yeah, they've been sending me some real dogs. Honestly, at over 50 years old, the woman would've had to have been a former model for me to be attracted to her.
Shakira is 48 and still looking decent but she has a lot of money and isn't natural (of course she has good genetics too). But yeah Shakira is like 1 in 10,000 in terms of attractiveness for her age.
 
Yeah, they've been sending me some real dogs. Honestly, at over 50 years old, the woman would've had to have been a former model for me to be attracted to her.
Like I've said, it's overall pretty rare and you don't want to be mean to people who you know and who act like they might be doing you a favor, but the degree to which the match is so disparate is definitely closer to insulting than it is nice. It's like they meet a "nice 35 year old" and really don't EVER think about why a man, particular a successful one, would be interested in her. Plenty of people were nice. The latest one, and I'm not saying she's not nice or a good person, was average but closer to the bad looking half of average, not the good looking half. I think this is the dismissal of men entirely as I've pointed out in other threads: they won't ask themselves, would a man want to have sex with this woman? It's very basic. If the answer is NO, and that's pretty much #1 for men to start to be interested, what the F is going on? lol - the only thing I can conclude is that women just hate the reality of the world that they have really small periods of value, and even when it comes to other women don't want to think about it.
But yeah Shakira is like 1 in 10,000 in terms of attractiveness for her age.
Yes, you MUST have superior genes for a man to even consider getting past the fact that you already have been slammed by other dudes, your best days are behind you, and he's paying for you moving forward, pretty much in perpetuity.

It was bad when I look back and realize that past 32-33 in America it's done for most men, but I don't even think women are viable in the US anymore at any age, these 20 yo are so weird and useless now.
 
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