Daily Interactions With Women

Guys who grew up in Eastern Europe...when they see American CIK-ers (who have not been to EE) praising Eastern European women:

"Then he said" : (laughing) "Girls in Eastern Europe are loyal, conservative and family-oriented" (Bursts out laughing)

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I don't think any man on this forum believes that Eastern European women on the whole are conservative and family oriented. Rather many guys on this forum believe they are somewhat less bad then western women (as long as you don't bring them to the west) which I largely think is true.

Divorce rates in Eastern Europe are on par or higher than western countries but a lot of it is also to do with men in those countries not holding up their end of the bargain. Men who are alcoholics, drug users, beating their wives (mostly older generation) or men not earning enough money to provide a high material standard of living thus leading to divorce.

Eastern European women have tendencies towards materialism but if the man can provide a good standard of living and doesn't mess up in other ways (addictions, cheating, etc) the marriage has a much higher chance of lasting than western marriages where the woman just ups and leaves because she doesn't get the vagina tingles anymore.

Western women will often leave a relationship for no good reason whereas Eastern European women are more pragmatic (not all of them though) and if the man is good they often realize "If I leave I cannot do any better than this guy". I would call that enlightened self interest rather than actual loyalty but the result is similar as long as you don't bring the woman to the west.
 
I don't think any man on this forum believes that Eastern European women on the whole are conservative and family oriented. Rather many guys on this forum believe they are somewhat less bad then western women (as long as you don't bring them to the west) which I largely think is true.
No. EE women are just as bad, and very often even worse than Western women.
Divorce rates in Eastern Europe are on par or higher than western countries but a lot of it is also to do with men in those countries not holding up their end of the bargain. Men who are alcoholics, drug users, beating their wives (mostly older generation) or men not earning enough money to provide a high material standard of living thus leading to divorce.
Divorce rates are higher in EE than in the West. if you really believe those divorce rates are high because of men, you are seriously deluded.

Eastern European women have tendencies towards materialism but if the man can provide a good standard of living and doesn't mess up in other ways (addictions, cheating, etc) the marriage has a much higher chance of lasting than western marriages where the woman just ups and leaves because she doesn't get the vagina tingles anymore.
Also, are you trying to imply "leading with money" will get a woman (especially an EE woman) love you and be faithful to you? Sorry, AS...it sounds like you are a blue-pilled, beta simp.
Western women will often leave a relationship for no good reason whereas Eastern European women are more pragmatic (not all of them though) and if the man is good they often realize "If I leave I cannot do any better than this guy". I would call that enlightened self interest rather than actual loyalty but the result is similar as long as you don't bring the woman to the west.
EE women divorce their husbands just as easily as Western women. Anyone telling you otherwise is naive or is a liar.

Anyhow, it seems like you have already made up your mind. You are welcome to try your luck in EE...just don't say nobody has warned you.
 
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No. EE women are just as bad, and very often even worse than Western women.
Why do you think they are worse than western women? How can any women be worse than western women? Western women are very masculine and absolutely repulsive (at least 90% of them). Sure a woman from Moscow or Kiev is likely every bit as bad morally (physically they are much better of course) as a woman from London, Sydney or New York but if you pick a small town in Eastern Europe and find a girl from a conservative family they will be far superior to any western woman. Apart from bible belt America the Anglosphere does not have any truly conservative women left.

Also, are you implying "leading with money" will get a woman (especially an EE woman) love you and be faithful to you? Sorry, AS...it sound like you are a blue-pilled, beta simp.
Most relationships are transactional to a certain extent. Accepting this is red pill. Just as I don't want a 40 year old woman or an obese woman similarly a young attractive woman doesn't want a serious relationship with a broke guy.

I am not a blue pilled beta simp and I understand very well the true nature of women and I have various plans/mechanisms for protecting myself against female treachery if things get serious so the whole divorce rape thing isn't going to happen to me.

If I get serious with a foreign woman I will live in her country while having my assets in Australia, and I will not legally marry her. Also I will avoid doing this in countries where de facto relationships have the same legal status as marriage. And if need be in certain situations I can layer pre-nuptial agreements and trust structures on top of this to protect my assets. I am not a typical western simp and I was not born yesterday. I will be going into things with both eyes wide open.

Anyhow, it seems like you have already made up your mind. You are welcome to try your luck in EE...just don't say nobody has warned you.
I will try my luck in Eastern Europe, they cannot possibly be any worse than western women and even if they are every bit as bad at least they are more attractive.
 
Why do you think they are worse than western women? How can any women be worse than western women? Western women are very masculine and absolutely repulsive (at least 90% of them). Sure a woman from Moscow or Kiev is likely every bit as bad morally (physically they are much better of course) as a woman from London, Sydney or New York but if you pick a small town in Eastern Europe and find a girl from a conservative family they will be far superior to any western woman. Apart from bible belt America the Anglosphere does not have any truly conservative women left.


Most relationships are transactional to a certain extent. Accepting this is red pill. Just as I don't want a 40 year old woman or an obese woman similarly a young attractive woman doesn't want a serious relationship with a broke guy.

I am not a blue pilled beta simp and I understand very well the true nature of women and I have various plans/mechanisms for protecting myself against female treachery if things get serious so the whole divorce rape thing isn't going to happen to me.

If I get serious with a foreign woman I will live in her country while having my assets in Australia, and I will not legally marry her. Also I will avoid doing this in countries where de facto relationships have the same legal status as marriage. And if need be in certain situations I can layer pre-nuptial agreements and trust structures on top of this to protect my assets. I am not a typical western simp and I was not born yesterday. I will be going into things with both eyes wide open.
Again, more nonsense. (No offence.)
I will try my luck in Eastern Europe, they cannot possibly be any worse than western women and even if they are every bit as bad at least they are more attractive.
As someone who claims to live in Australia...yet, instead of exploring Southeast Asia and Oceania -which are both closer to Australia. They are also superior to Eastern Europe in every aspect (and especially when it comes to the quality of women available)...yet you want to go to "explore" Eastern Europe. I believe you are a troll.
 
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As someone who claims to live in Australia...yet, instead of exploring Southeast Asia and Oceania -which are both closer to Australia. They are also superior to Eastern Europe in every aspect (and especially when it comes to the quality of women available)...yet you want to go to "explore" Eastern Europe. I believe you are a troll.
You fallaciously assume that a european descended man wants to race-mix with asian or polynesian woman. My seed ain't meant for no gook.
 
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Again, more nonsense. (No offence.)

As someone who claims to live in Australia...yet, instead of exploring Southeast Asia and Oceania -which are both closer to Australia. They are also superior to Eastern Europe in every aspect (and especially when it comes to the quality of women available)...yet you want to go to "explore" Eastern Europe. I believe you are a troll.
In general the types of Asian women I find physically attractive (e.g. Japanese, South Koreans, etc) tend to have similar behavior to western women. But yes I will not limit myself to Europe and never made such a claim. Are there Indonesian or Filipina or Vietnamese women that are attractive? Yes of course there are but that is a low percentage of them.

Also Slavic women are unmatched (I mean if going by averages I am not talking individual women) in terms of beauty with only maybe a few other pockets of Europe (the Baltics, Albanian women and Scandinavian women) having comparable levels of average beauty depending on your exact tastes.

On average however there is no comparison between Slavic women and Asian women in terms of beauty.

I had a taste of Slavic women when I went to North Macedonia (the Macedonian women) but it was only 1 month and only 1 country so not enough info to draw a definitive conclusion. But I did notice that anecdotally there seemed to be a noticeable percentage of Macedonian women (I would guess at least 5%) who were keeping their virginity until marriage. That is basically unheard of in the west. I made no traction because of the nationalism/racism culture in the Balkans but I know that other Slavs such as Russians and Ukrainians etc are more open to dating foreigners.
 
No. EE women are just as bad, and very often even worse than Western women.

Divorce rates are higher in EE than in the West. if you really believe those divorce rates are high because of men, you are seriously deluded.


Also, are you trying to imply "leading with money" will get a woman (especially an EE woman) love you and be faithful to you? Sorry, AS...it sounds like you are a blue-pilled, beta simp.

EE women divorce their husbands just as easily as Western women. Anyone telling you otherwise is naive or is a liar.

Anyhow, it seems like you have already made up your mind. You are welcome to try your luck in EE...just don't say nobody has warned you.

Some of what you're saying is true. Divorce rates in Russia are insanely high. Ukraine is even worse and there are many many promiscuous, feminist and atheist women among Ukrainians. This has become clear to anyone living in the west since the war started.

That said, you come across as someone who hasn't spent extended time EE. For someone to travel Russia, Serbia, Croatia, Romania and draw the conclusion that they are worse is almost unheard of. Worst case scenario you just learn the language and go to a city with a sub 150k population. If you then still think it's nothing to write home about, then that part of Europe just ain't for you. And that's perfectly fine.
 
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