Charlie Kirk Thread

Shaquilleoatmeal said:


He was against pro-white causes and he denied how America was meant to be a nation for whites.

@It_Is_My_Time
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Now I see why this thread was called "Charlie Kirk Ziocuck" (or something like that?) before he was killed. He seems not only effeminate, but also dense and insufferable in the above clip. And not to be "mean" toward the dead, but Charlie put himself in harms way by seeking fame and riches doing these silly town hall type meetings on college campuses where he seems to have gotten off on inflamming tensions and being the center of attention (notice all the back and forth verbal tension in the room). Clips like this make me far less sympathetic towards his mission and plight.

In addition, Charlie seems to have attracted a whole host of shady characters into his orbit, one of which seems to be his Miss Arizona Wife who is/was quite obviously out of his league physically. I mean, c'mon gents, let's be honest, would you marry a woman who entered beauty pageants when she was an adult woman of 23? Seems like a total red flag to me. Furthermore, Charlie Kirk seems to have been the only non-Chad guy in all of America right now who was a 5 that was able to lock down a 7.

Just more things that make you go "Hmmm?" about this whole unfortunate situation.
 
PurpleUrkel said:
Now I see why this thread was called "Charlie Kirk Ziocuck" (or something like that?) before he was killed. He seems not only effeminate, but also dense and insufferable in the above clip. And not to be "mean" toward the dead, but Charlie put himself in harms way by seeking fame and riches doing these silly town hall type meetings on college campuses where he seems to have gotten off on inflamming tensions and being the center of attention (notice all the back and forth verbal tension in the room). Clips like this make me far less sympathetic towards his mission and plight.

In addition, Charlie seems to have attracted a whole host of shady characters into his orbit, one of which seems to be his Miss Arizona Wife who is/was quite obviously out of his league physically. I mean, c'mon gents, let's be honest, would you marry a woman who entered beauty pageants when she was an adult woman of 23? Seems like a total red flag to me. Furthermore, Charlie Kirk seems to have been the only non-Chad guy in all of America right now who was a 5 that was able to lock down a 7.

Just more things that make you go "Hmmm?" about this whole unfortunate situation.
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If you look around you you'd know be wasn't a 5 plus he was 6ft5 which is one of the things women care the most about not a pretty face. Large feet and being tall will get you all.

The rest of your post... Yeah makes you think.
 
Some SMS messages were posted suggesting Kirk was distancing himself from Israel 48 hours prior to his death.

Not sure if they're 'real' since such things could easily be doctored.
 
I honestly had no idea who Kirk was prior to his death.

Since it, I've been bombarded with his content and I find he comes across very well. He had the Jordan Peterson quality of charisma, verbal skill but he was far more overtly Christian than Peterson and never hid behind psychology or gnosticism.

I'm sad that what I can see as a decent Christian man has died in this way.

Did he make mistakes on his path to fame and glory? Probably. But I believe his intentions were overall good and that he was genuine.

I can't really understand why this happened since he didn't have such enormous presence or influence.
 
Northumber said:
These are all very good points. I put trustworthiness on a spectrum. It's also messy as I can't always decide what these individuals' intents actually are.
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I like this and agree, folks are often too black and white on this, people are complicated and have a number of factors pressuring their public actions from various directions. Plus people can legitimately change over the years, just cause they were mistaken or cucked before doesn't mean they can't grow or change their views. Doesn't often happen but it's possible.

Tippy said:
Some SMS messages were posted suggesting Kirk was distancing himself from Israel 48 hours prior to his death.

Not sure if they're 'real' since such things could easily be doctored.
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These were essentially confirmed to be legit since even the folks like Josh Hammer who are trying to maintain that Kirk wasn't changing his views at all, didn't contest their legitimacy.
 
PurpleUrkel said:
Now I see why this thread was called "Charlie Kirk Ziocuck" (or something like that?) before he was killed. He seems not only effeminate, but also dense and insufferable in the above clip. And not to be "mean" toward the dead, but Charlie put himself in harms way by seeking fame and riches doing these silly town hall type meetings on college campuses where he seems to have gotten off on inflamming tensions and being the center of attention (notice all the back and forth verbal tension in the room). Clips like this make me far less sympathetic towards his mission and plight.

In addition, Charlie seems to have attracted a whole host of shady characters into his orbit, one of which seems to be his Miss Arizona Wife who is/was quite obviously out of his league physically. I mean, c'mon gents, let's be honest, would you marry a woman who entered beauty pageants when she was an adult woman of 23? Seems like a total red flag to me. Furthermore, Charlie Kirk seems to have been the only non-Chad guy in all of America right now who was a 5 that was able to lock down a 7.

Just more things that make you go "Hmmm?" about this whole unfortunate situation.
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RedLagoon said:
If you look around you you'd know be wasn't a 5 plus he was 6ft5 which is one of the things women care the most about not a pretty face. Large feet and being tall will get you all.

The rest of your post... Yeah makes you think.
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Charlie Kirk claimed the founding fathers didn’t believe America should be for whites only, so are we supposed to believe that? It’s clear he was defending legal immigration of non whites.
 
Tippy said:
I honestly had no idea who Kirk was prior to his death.

Since it, I've been bombarded with his content and I find he comes across very well. He had the Jordan Peterson quality of charisma, verbal skill but he was far more overtly Christian than Peterson and never hid behind psychology or gnosticism.

I'm sad that what I can see as a decent Christian man has died in this way.

Did he make mistakes on his path to fame and glory? Probably. But I believe his intentions were overall good and that he was genuine.

I can't really understand why this happened since he didn't have such enormous presence or influence.
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I think he did have a lot of influence, more that I knew before he was killed. He seems to have known every significant politician and influencer on the right. Vance said that when he first started thinking about running for senate, Kirk contacted him and introduced him around to fund raisers and GOP insiders, including Donald Trump Jr.

I think part of the reason the reaction was so big when he died is that every politician and media personality knew him and was good friends with him, so they all made a big deal about it.
 
Thomas More said:
I think part of the reason the reaction was so big when he died is that every politician and media personality knew him...
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And so the question becomes how does a 30 year old college dropout who was rejected by West Point get into this position with a 150 million endowment in a scant 10 years without help from the usual suspects? Correct Answer: "He doesn't."

Jews, jews everywhere.
 
PurpleUrkel said:
And so the question becomes how does a 30 year old college dropout who was rejected by West Point get into this position with a 150 million endowment in a scant 10 years without help from the usual suspects? Correct Answer: "He doesn't."

Jews, jews everywhere.
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Or, he was likeable and highly driven to connect with anybody and everybody to push his message.

There's a chicken and egg question here. How does a young man get heavyweight support and a place in the spotlight? On the one hand, the heavyweight supporters pick him. On the other, he has to earn it. He puts himself out there, and wins the support of the people who matter.

Some of it is purely cynical manipulation of the public using ticket taker media personalities. But not all.
 
Thomas More said:
Or, he was likeable and highly driven to connect with anybody and everybody to push his message.

There's a chicken and egg question here. How does a young man get heavyweight support and a place in the spotlight? On the one hand, the heavyweight supporters pick him. On the other, he has to earn it. He puts himself out there, and wins the support of the people who matter.

Some of it is purely cynical manipulation of the public using ticket taker media personalities. But not all.
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I see what you're saying but personally, after watching many clips of Kirk, and given his zionist heavy ideology (which apparently he was in the process of pivoting on), large zionist funding, and pro-zionist evangelical type Christian staff, I don't see anything special about him except that he was able to somehow harness fortune and fame. His speaking and intellect was above average but I wouldn't call him a "genius."

Throughout my life, and having worked for and with many famous people, I have had overwhelmingly bad experiences with these types. Given the circumstances of Charlie's brief celebrity driven life, upper class and expensive lifestyle, beauty contestant wife, quick death under suspicious circumstances, and the overall behavior of TPUSA post assassination, I have seen no reason to believe that Charlie Kirk was any different than any other type of person who intentionally seeks wealth through fame.
 
Thomas More said:
I think he did have a lot of influence, more that I knew before he was killed. He seems to have known every significant politician and influencer on the right. Vance said that when he first started thinking about running for senate, Kirk contacted him and introduced him around to fund raisers and GOP insiders, including Donald Trump Jr.

I think part of the reason the reaction was so big when he died is that every politician and media personality knew him and was good friends with him, so they all made a big deal about it.
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The more of his videos I watch the more saddened I am by his death. The world truly needs more people like him especially in positions of influence.

It does seem the usual suspects are behind it. We probably won't ever know the whole story.
PurpleUrkel said:
And so the question becomes how does a 30 year old college dropout who was rejected by West Point get into this position with a 150 million endowment in a scant 10 years without help from the usual suspects? Correct Answer: "He doesn't."

Jews, jews everywhere.
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Well, from what I understand he was making money on college campuses and he had J donors so yes he acquired support from J's.

Alsk there are videos of him defending Zionism and pushing back hard on JQ. But if those texts are to be believed, he was changing his stance.
 
I posted earlier. While it’s certainly possible for Kirk’s widow to move on, date and marry someone else, any man she dates will never measure up to Charlie Kirk, he was murdered when they were at the height of their love, he died a national conservative hero. They didn’t split after irreconcilable differences, or on a mutual breakup , Charlie was murdered .
 
eradicator said:
I posted earlier. While it’s certainly possible for Kirk’s widow to move on, date and marry someone else, any man she dates will never measure up to Charlie Kirk, he was murdered when they were at the height of their love, he died a national conservative hero. They didn’t split after irreconcilable differences, or on a mutual breakup , Charlie was murdered .
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She’s also kinda old now.
 
Shaquilleoatmeal said:
She’s also kinda old now.
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I expect she'll marry an older business man, not famous, but fairly handsome and charming, and rich enough to make sure she is comfortable, and probably rich enough to provide security around her as well.

The question is will she continue to seek the limelight, or will she drop out of the public eye after things settle down. She could just leave a foundation to run Turning Point, and play a somewhat passive role in supporting it, or should could try to run it and be up on stage 100 times a year. I expect she will step back before long.
 
Thomas More said:
The question is will she continue to seek the limelight, or will she drop out of the public eye...
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Not a chance she will drop out of the limelight. She has been working her entire life to become famous and she just arrived at her goal, no way she gives it up now.

Thomas More said:
I expect she'll marry an older business man, not famous...
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I say she is already with some Chad (if not in body then at least in spirit) from TPUSA or some other related high powered political or governmental organization. Most likely some guy who was close with Charlie and by osmosis spent lots of time with Erika which allowed the Chad to set the monkey branching trap years in advance via low key flirting and "platonic" kino. And we all know how the female hypergamous mind works, in the back of their minds they're always wondering if they can do better (they can), and curious to experiment (i.e. play games) with the strengths and weaknesses of they're sexual power over weak and lustful men. As the saying goes, "You weren't special, it was just your turn."
 
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