Charlie Kirk Thread

He's the same guy who pointed out the text messages about Jewish donors with Charlie....

What did he do that made him a traitor.
Only after his hand was forced. He tried to hide them and only came clean after Candace and others confirmed they were real.

Just have a bad vibe about him. If I'm correct, it might take several years for him to misstep and show his true colors. TPUSA had/has some frauds and grift involved, only time will tell if Andrew Kolvet is part of it.
 
Only after his hand was forced. He tried to hide them and only came clean after Candace and others confirmed they were real.

Just have a bad vibe about him. If I'm correct, it might take several years for him to misstep and show his true colors. TPUSA had/has some frauds and grift involved, only time will tell if Andrew Kolvet is part of it.
Let's see how this ages... I've not followed him enough to make the claim but I am not sure he had to release those texts at all.

I'm less skeptical but you very well may be right.
 
By the way, what's with the people that claim that in cases like this, the powers that be "faked his death" and claim he's still living somewhere but I presume under protection? Some otherwise fairly normal thinkers who are clued in to the fact that the system, intelligence agencies, governments, etc go well beyond the "They had him killed because of speaking against some of the powers" or for disruptive reasons that might be political expedient for them. Why would someone who already understands there is foul play, that a patsy like Robinson was probable, that the story makes little to no sense - why would they then try to throw in an extra detail that actually the death was faked and the blood was hollywood, and he's actually living somewhere right now? How does that help anyone or make others believe even for a second your story isn't both stupid and crazy?
 
... why do we assume that the gun was completely taken apart post shooting?
Because as far I know not one civilian in attendance has reported seeing anyone on campus with a rifle either before or after the shooting. Which means the rifle had to be assembled on the roof, disassembled on the roof after the shooting (in 6 seconds), and then reassembled in the woods and placed in a pre-placed box. But pros are saying that the reported rifle can't be hidden down a pants leg or in a backpack, and unless the kid is David Copperfield the hiding a rifle in a black towel theory using slight of hand for hundreds of yard across parking lots, roof tops, and expanses of treeless grass seems impossible to achieve without detection (especially when running).

Then you have the fact that this mini John Wick escaped every perimeter set up by law enforcement and got safely home 4 hours away without detection. The FBI didn't even know who this guy was and couldn't find him, much less did they capture him (something they are gleefully taking credit for), the kid turned himself in.

Maybe Tyler Robinson and his buddy George Zinn can start training Navy Seals and CIA operatives from prison? These guys are obviously next level when it comes to tactics, planning, weaponry, marksmanship under pressure, deception, and evasion.
 
Because as far I know not one civilian in attendance has reported seeing anyone on campus with a rifle either before or after the shooting. Which means the rifle had to be assembled on the roof, disassembled on the roof after the shooting (in 6 seconds), and then reassembled in the woods and placed in a pre-placed box. But pros are saying that the reported rifle can't be hidden down a pants leg or in a backpack, and unless the kid is David Copperfield the hiding a rifle in a black towel theory using slight of hand for hundreds of yard across parking lots, roof tops, and expanses of treeless grass seems impossible to achieve without detection (especially when running).
Yeah maybe I'm missing something in the story line here ... Please correct me where you've got something that definitely contradicts what I'm saying below so I can check myself.

They have found footage of the guy on the roof prior to the shot.

The photo of the rifle in the box was post finding it in a tall and the box is what they would put this in for evidence and also NOT an official photo from my understanding...rather leaked.

You missed where I said how do we know at ANY point it was disassembled after firing.

Please tell me where that is part of the story beyond an assumption from one dude who was in the military in your video.

Then you have the fact that this mini John Wick escaped every perimeter set up by law enforcement and got safely home 4 hours away without detection. The FBI didn't even know who this guy was and couldn't find him, much less did they capture him (something they are gleefully taking credit for), the kid turned himself in.
They released photos before be turned himself in of the person of interest.

I'm just a little skeptical that we need to blow him up to be some super stealth like mcguiver. It's not crazy to assume Cops are fairly incompetent on college campus and it's not crazy to assume that a well thought out plan is beyond the real of the possible for a dude in an antifa group with a handler.
Maybe Tyler Robinson and his buddy George Zinn can start training Navy Seals and CIA operatives from prison? These guys are obviously next level when it comes to tactics, planning, weaponry, marksmanship under pressure, deception, and evasion.
Not really. A 10 year old with Grandpa's gun could make that shot. I have a hard time taking people saying otherwise super seriously as to whether or not they're familiar with marksmanship.

I do agree there is some collusion with the Zinn fellow and other Marxist antifa groups and tranny freaks. Just haven't seen anything that disproves the most simple explanation:

Dude was radicalized by mk ultra programming thought tranny sympathizing antifa groups. Dude had a handler. Dude executed plan. Dude tried to play off like the tranny boyfriend didn't know to save tranny boyfriend. Dude did shoot him.

I do think there's more, much more to the story.

I just haven't seen anything that tells me this weirdo isn't the shooter and I'm not sure where the disablement of the rifle is proven here.

The video I shared provides a decent breakdown of that comparison of which doesn't contradict the prevailing narrative significantly. So at that point you're chosing to believe one version of the story or another.
 
Dude was radicalized by mk ultra programming thought tranny sympathizing antifa groups. Dude had a handler. Dude executed plan. Dude tried to play off like the tranny boyfriend didn't know to save tranny boyfriend. Dude did shoot him.

I do think there's more, much more to the story.

I just haven't seen anything that tells me this weirdo isn't the shooter and I'm not sure where the disablement of the rifle is proven here.

The video I shared provides a decent breakdown of that comparison of which doesn't contradict the prevailing narrative significantly. So at that point you're chosing to believe one version of the story or another.
Many of the videos are edited, much of the story doesn't make sense, even the wound from that kind of shot (if from TR) doesn't make sense. That's why all in all we say something else is also going on. I personally think the best explanation is like the patsy Oswald story. The guy was there, he shot at him, who knows what hit him, but others also joined in to "finish the job" and guarantee it, and then you have the patsy story there to blame someone particular and very easily. Look at the public, they ate it all up. "Just another crazy guy shooting!" lol, while Zinn is also dancing around saying he did it ... whatever dude
 
Many of the videos are edited, much of the story doesn't make sense, even the wound from that kind of shot (if from TR) doesn't make sense. That's why all in all we say something else is also going on. I personally think the best explanation is like the patsy Oswald story. The guy was there, he shot at him, who knows what hit him, but others also joined in to "finish the job" and guarantee it, and then you have the patsy story there to blame someone particular and very easily. Look at the public, they ate it all up. "Just another crazy guy shooting!" lol, while Zinn is also dancing around saying he did it ... whatever dude
Maybe so on the Oswald theory.

I just haven't seen any reason to believe that disassembling the rifle occured at any point. Which is my question.

Where did that theory come from and why are people believing it to likely be true?
 
I just haven't seen any reason to believe that disassembling the rifle occured at any point.
Great point. Some pros are saying that rifle can't even be broken down in the way it is being modeled and described. Who to believe? But not one person ever saw a rifle at anytime before or after the shooting? And nowadays there are high quality 24 hour surveillance cameras and systems everywhere on college campuses (due to all the shootings at schools) and yet there is not one clear photo or video of a rifle? So the rifle is invisible? Even if the rifle was pre-placed there would be recorded footage of the placement. Notice again how all the footage is grainy and unclear and nobody can really get anything concrete established from any of the surveillance cameras. My $200 phone takes better video and still images than a college campuses million dollar surveillance system? Nah, the lack of concrete information and images is all part of the psyop.

Where did that theory come from and why are people believing it to likely be true?
Exactly. Where did/do all these theories come from? A lot of it comes from the FBI and local law enforcement who claimed that an hour after the shooting they had a suspect in custody (wrong). They are also the ones that talked about Robinson changing clothes multiple times and disassembling and reassembling the rifle. They are the ones who claim they caught Robinson (a lie). Robinson turned himself in to a neighbor who was a cop, the FBI did not "catch" him. So the FBI itself is the one peddling bad information and false information both intentionally and unintentionally. Imagine that?

There's just too many moving parts lacking simplicity and clarity. You talk about Occam's Razor but I don't see it applying here as it is a general rule not a law. This whole thing should be simple, but it's not, it's confusing and unclear which is why it is likely that something nefarious has happened here involving multiple people (i.e. a conspiracy). But I see you agree with that...
I do think there's more, much more to the story.
And so the question is, what "more" to the story is there? At this point, details about the rifle become almost irrelevant. In other words, the rifle is not the issue here dude.
 
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