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mountainaire said:
There's a rumor about out there, that Buttigieg is such a ladder climbing psycho, that he's only pretending to be gay to get ahead in the party. I heard somewhere that he only dated women until he got into politics. Then suddenly he's gay married shortly after entering national politics.
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Just read an article comparing Buttigieg to JD Vance. They both have similar backgrounds, both being Midwest rust belt guys that had a rapid rise into the ranks of the elite but there is one differentiating point between the two of them:

Vance decided to throw out the playbook and hoist the black flag - the MAGA flag. Rather than echoing the typical talking poitns and waiting for his turn to come, he seized the opportunity in front of him. He saw that the GOP establishment, unwilling to deal with the very real problems laid bare by the Trump phenomenon, had left the proverbial crown lying in the street. And he decide to pick it up.

Make no mistake: that was a very difficult and costly decision for Vance. He went from being loved, or at least respected, to being loathed by a vast swath of the elite. The vast majority of us wouldn’t dare to make even a much smaller choice to go against the standard track, to rock the boat in even a minor way. But love him or hate him, Vance had the balls to lay it on the line. And it’s given him a legitimate shot at the Presidency as soon as 2028.
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Buttigieg, by contrast, has never once colored outside the lines as near as I can tell. He’s still doing everything he’s supposed to do, following all the rules in the playbook. But in a cutthroat era where potential elites are a dime a dozen, he may never get the chance he longs for.
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Wutang said:
Just read an article comparing Buttigieg to JD Vance. They both have similar backgrounds, both being Midwest rust belt guys that had a rapid rise into the ranks of the elite but there is one differentiating point between the two of them:
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Are you kidding?

Buttgig's parents were university teachers and his dad was an endowed professor in some kind of Marxist nonsense at Notre Dame. Hell, he even got some second-hand advantages by growing up on the same street as Dr. E. Michael Jones.

Vance's dad abandoned the family and he was primarily raised by his grandparents in poverty conditions.
 
Wutang said:
Just read an article comparing Buttigieg to JD Vance. They both have similar backgrounds, both being Midwest rust belt guys that had a rapid rise into the ranks of the elite but there is one differentiating point between the two of them:
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Forgot to post the article

www.aaronrenn.com

How J.D. Vance Avoided Becoming Pete Buttigieg

Vance hoisted the black flag while Buttigieg remained a prisoner of the playbook
www.aaronrenn.com www.aaronrenn.com

Articles does mention where the two men differ:

Though close to the same age, Vance (40) and Buttigieg (42) don’t superficially seem to have much in common. Vance grew up in a dysfunctional white working class world. Buttigieg was the child of Notre Dame college professors with big political ambitions from an early age.

But put childhoods behind, and see that both of them were on the elite professional-managerial fast track to the top via the standard series of résumé building activities.
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And what they do have in common

There are definitely differences but a lot of similarities as well: both obviously highly ambitious and motivated, both deployed to a combat theater in the military, both with elite education, both with relatively short stints in elite business, both winning and holding elected office - even both Midwest/Rust Belt guys. Remember, Pete Buttigieg originally pitched himself as someone who understood the Rust Belt thanks to being mayor of post-industrial South Bend.
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Wutang said:
Forgot to post the article

www.aaronrenn.com

How J.D. Vance Avoided Becoming Pete Buttigieg

Vance hoisted the black flag while Buttigieg remained a prisoner of the playbook
www.aaronrenn.com www.aaronrenn.com

Articles does mention where the two men differ:



And what they do have in common
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Are you still kidding?
BehindTheLines said:
Buttgig's parents were university teachers and his dad was an endowed professor in some kind of Marxist nonsense at Notre Dame. Hell, he even got some second-hand advantages by growing up on the same street as Dr. E. Michael Jones.

Vance's dad abandoned the family and he was primarily raised by his grandparents in poverty conditions.
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Buttgig's dad was an immigrant from Malta who was the foremost Gramsci scholar in the US. Gramsci was an Italian communist who believed that the way to implement communism was through the "long march through the institutions", ie corrupting education, government, the Church, popular culture etc.

This might have also helped Buttgig land a Rhodes scholarship and a successful political career.
 
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Cooper said:
Buttgig's dad was an immigrant from Malta who was the foremost Gramsci scholar in the US. Gramsci was an Italian communist who believed that the way to implement communism was through the "long march through the institutions", ie corrupting education, government, the Church, popular culture etc.

This might have also helped Buttgig land a Rhodes scholarship and a successful political career.
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I thought it was strange that Buttplug was able to get a direct commission when he became an officer in the army. That's something usually reserved for people like Hunter Biden or other people from politically well-connected families. I always wondered if what sort of connections Buttplug had since as far as I know he didn't have any family in high up in the political world. It gives more credence to the theory that he was chosen and groomed for the path he is on now. It seem like he basically was put through every hoop possible to check off a point on the list things that a potential big political player should do (military service, Rhodes scholarship, Ivy league degree, McKinsey work experience).
 
BehindTheLines said:
some second-hand advantages by growing up on the same street as Dr. E. Michael Jones.
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Dr.? LOL, Notre Dame looks nice but is actually sicker than most universities, given its supposed "values" that are claimed to be derived from Roman Catholicism.
Cooper said:
This might have also helped Buttgig land a Rhodes scholarship and a successful political career.
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Lock that up. They're all prostitutes.

At least for the Maltese sellout, he gets his reward: a highly visible son who is a phag. Amazing. He probably doesn't care though since all he values is scamming for $ and comfort.
 
Blade Runner said:
Dr.? LOL, Notre Dame looks nice but is actually sicker than most universities, given its supposed "values" that are claimed to be derived from Roman Catholicism.

Lock that up. They're all prostitutes.

At least for the Maltese sellout, he gets his reward: a highly visible son who is a phag. Amazing. He probably doesn't care though since all he values is scamming for $ and comfort.
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They must have taken a lot of extra satisfaction in placing that agent at Notre Dame of all places, instead of say Berkeley or Columbia.
 
Blade Runner said:
Dr.? LOL, Notre Dame looks nice but is actually sicker than most universities, given its supposed "values" that are claimed to be derived from Roman Catholicism.
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You seem to be trying to make two different gotcha statements here (laughing at credentials and calling out Notre Dame) that are both a bit off, particularly in this context. Would you mind expanding on each of them?
 
BehindTheLines said:
You seem to be trying to make two different gotcha statements here (laughing at credentials and calling out Notre Dame) that are both a bit off, particularly in this context. Would you mind expanding on each of them?
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I'm distrustful of types like "Dr." Jones, due to personality and generational reasons, and admittedly the inflexibility of their "I'll show you, Protestant" Roman Catholicism. I do not argue that he is not helpful or has talent in many areas, though. A quick way of saying this would be that the proof is in the pudding regarding modern RC, it is splintered, divided, and even its institutions clearly show you it has a major movement of global communism, similar to tikkun olam, in its efforts (Jesuits and Universities are the disgusting reality of this, like ND). I'm sorry to be so blunt, but no one takes the Anglicans seriously, and I don't see why one should listen to "but ... but, Latin Mass!" and act like this supposed "unity' man Pope Bergoglio doesn't prove the point.
 
Blade Runner said:
I'm distrustful of types like "Dr." Jones, due to personality and generational reasons, and admittedly the inflexibility of their "I'll show you, Protestant" Roman Catholicism. I do not argue that he is not helpful or has talent in many areas, though. A quick way of saying this would be that the proof is in the pudding regarding modern RC, it is splintered, divided, and even its institutions clearly show you it has a major movement of global communism, similar to tikkun olam, in its efforts (Jesuits and Universities are the disgusting reality of this, like ND). I'm sorry to be so blunt, but no one takes the Anglicans seriously, and I don't see why one should listen to "but ... but, Latin Mass!" and act like this supposed "unity' man Pope Bergoglio doesn't prove the point.
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You're still doing it. To be more direct:

Why do you have "Dr." in quotes (and why did you "LOL" at it before?

Why all the crapping on Notre Dame in relation to Jones? Jones craps on Notre Dame all the time. The point was that Buttgig's dad was an endowed professor there so it actually makes sense that it's as sick as you mentioned.
 
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