The China Thread
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AI is the new arms race. Whoever wins this race, will win the next century and beyond. The top AI guy in the USA says China cannot be beat. He is right, we replaced the men who were able to put a man on the moon with slide rulers with third world immigrants.
Do I have time to slit my throat before Ping Pong Ching Chong parachutes down my chimney and steals my corneas?
Why would China waste resources doing that? Just wait for us to collapse by dropping our IQ with third world immigration and then send in drones and robots to clean up the mess.
I was joking, my fren. Even Cooper got it, lol.
You've got the penguin playground just below you, why not go for a stroll with the emperors?
No eminent domain laws as we know them. Multiple stories about major roads having to be built around the stubborn owners' properties. In one case the provincial authorities resorted to dispatching Kung fu fighting goons to intimidate the people into selling. If it's of critical national importance, a prime location for an air force base or rich in strategic mineral deposits, then you have to move I'd think.
Homeowner refused to sell to Chinese Government resulting in highway being built around house
A Chinese woman refused to leave her tiny abode, resulting the government building a busy freeway around her house
Chinese Highway Runs Circles Around Residents Who Refused to Leave
This "nail house" resulted from residents who refused to move.
abcnews.go.com
Is that Mr.Huang? I wouldn't want to live in an authoritarian country with the best, most advanced and widely deployed AI systems in the world, even though they seem to reward 'good citizen' behavior and don't try to help or prop up criminals.
I've posted more on the Ukraine and Russia threads than on this one over the last couple of years, but somehow no one is questioning me about "devoting that much energy" there. Part of the reason I do post a lot on this thread is that there is an inordinate amount of low-IQ propaganda with people like LaNegra trying to push low grade slop from hacks like Serpentza about China.
As I've mentioned a few times already, I see China more as a check on the otherwise unlimited power of the ((banksters)) that have been parasiting the West than a threat to crush the West. The plans for the West and humanity of an Alex Karp, Bill Gates or a Sam Altman are far more nefarious than anything the Chinese could come ever out with.
It's pretty clear here that your take is that of a zero sum game to control the world between the West and China, so you are wondering why I am not on board with my team here. I think the Chinese, much like the Russians, basically want to be left alone, while US foreign policy has essentially been to try to kneecap their growth, if not to take them over outright, as was done to Russia in the 1990s or China for over a hundred years after the Opium Wars. It is a policy straight out of the Tonya Harding school of geopolitics.
The reality here is that China is going to be the world's leading economic and industrial power, that is the natural course of events, as they have 4 times as many people as the US, are not dumb and are highly organized and united, led by capable nationalists. They're very good at industry but not natural global hegemons. Where I differ with IIMT is that countries like China or Russia don't have to be global predators in order to thrive, and neither do we. That is not just a rational, civilized take, but it is also the right Christian take. Do you really want to side with sellout psychopaths like Lindsay Graham, Nikki Haley or Victoria Nuland here?? No thanks.
Faber has had a series of incredibly lousy predictions. He predicted the US stock market would crash 10 years ago, it tripled in value instead. In the 00s, he predicted Gordon Chang-style that the Chinese economy would crash, it kept growing like gangbusters instead. He's an older macroeconomist who has not lived or worked in China, unlike the Gaves who have lived and worked there as banker-investors for 30 years.
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Stories like these are absolute gold, and shine a big fat spotlight on the gigantic discrepancy between reality in China and the spun up plastic propaganda narratives artificially held up by entire CCP bot armies.
Shanghai's now former vice-mayor Lin Duo's daughter was recently discovered to be a US resident and green card holder. Like basically every CCP apparatchik's offspring bytheway, that's how you know da satanic West is collapsiiiing. Anyway, upon finding out the MSS gave Lin Duo two options, 1. have her daughter revoke her green card or 2. resign.
She chose her daughter's US green card and resigned as Shanghai's vice mayor.
Grim.
Shanghai's now former vice-mayor Lin Duo's daughter was recently discovered to be a US resident and green card holder. Like basically every CCP apparatchik's offspring bytheway, that's how you know da satanic West is collapsiiiing. Anyway, upon finding out the MSS gave Lin Duo two options, 1. have her daughter revoke her green card or 2. resign.
She chose her daughter's US green card and resigned as Shanghai's vice mayor.
Grim.
Property rights in China are stronger because there is no property tax. In the West, you never really own property, as you have to pay property and school taxes, or it will be repossessed by the state, so you can never really retire unless you accumulate a small fortune as you will be faced with ever growing property taxes and medical bills in your late years.
I'm not sure about Beijing stagnating, its economy is fairly well diversified, and as the capital it is likely to benefit from state policies.
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Someone made a mistake, a big mistake. You should actually visit the USA someday to see how "good" things are here. But be careful, there are a lot of no go zones here, so research that first.
A former vice-mayor of a big Chinese city resigned, and that is your big proof that China is a dystopia? That's a bit flimsy, even by LaNegra standards.
Maybe you should start posting under a second sock puppet account as a fake Chinese nationalist, the same way you post as a fake Russian patriot to try to discredit Russia.
Looking at this latest source used by LaNegra: typical glowie anti-China source, 100% China is a neverending dystopia messaging, as if nothing good ever happened in China the last decade, with comically ludicrous material like this, where they manage to storyboard for gullible people a positive event of a wedding party into something peculiarly sinister :
...and in this character's his main X profile banner, an all-seeing eye - a brother who self-describes as "standing for universal values", is he from the same Lodge as you, LaNegra?
...and in this character's his main X profile banner, an all-seeing eye - a brother who self-describes as "standing for universal values", is he from the same Lodge as you, LaNegra?
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"Forever renters" in the West, whatever is left of it. The failures of our previous governments is killing our own people. At least the Chinese try to preserve their own.
In China they have willfully let the housing bubble pop, and diverted financial resources towards industries like EVs, semiconductors, AI, batteries etc instead. As a results their millennials have the highest home ownership rates in the world.
The country where 70% of millennials are homeowners
While young people globally are fighting to get on the property ladder, one country bucks the trend.
www.bbc.com
In the US, Blackrock is making sure young people will own nothing and be happy.
"Patrick Bet-David on BlackRock’s Shocking Strategy: They’re Betting Against the Next Generation BlackRock isn’t chasing the $700K properties—they’re hoarding the low-end market. Why? Because they know millennials can’t afford to buy, so they’ll be forced to rent forever.
In 2020, only 10% of their purchases were low-price homes. Now? 24%. That’s 1 in 4 homes—your future home—being turned into an annuity for Wall Street.
This isn’t investment. It’s predatory. They’re pricing out a generation, turning the American Dream into a rental scheme, and laughing all the way to the bank.
Wake up. The game is rigged."
What planet do you people live on? There is no private property in China, you lease from the CCP for 70-99 years. The leases are violated by eminent domain there at least as much as the USA, and they do send kungfu panda off-world kick murder squads to evict people who get uppity, sometimes resulting in 100 person brawls with a few fatalities when SUVs are used to mow people down.
Nail houses exist in small jurisdictions that are incompetent at hiring thugs to throw people off their land, which is normal in China, where almost nothing is enforced with uniformity except gutter oil quotas. If you search China+forced+evictions you'll see endless cases.
1 minute clip that gives a little idea. The old videos that showed the big brawls are no longer to be found online.
One of the most spectacular cases without a fatality was in Wuhan 2009 when the property lessee built a make-shift cannon with fireworks and a crude tower from which to defend against the attackers, a battle that raged on and off for monthses.
Eventually, they injured him.
Nail houses exist in small jurisdictions that are incompetent at hiring thugs to throw people off their land, which is normal in China, where almost nothing is enforced with uniformity except gutter oil quotas. If you search China+forced+evictions you'll see endless cases.
1 minute clip that gives a little idea. The old videos that showed the big brawls are no longer to be found online.
One of the most spectacular cases without a fatality was in Wuhan 2009 when the property lessee built a make-shift cannon with fireworks and a crude tower from which to defend against the attackers, a battle that raged on and off for monthses.
Eventually, they injured him.
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Newest China Show by serpentza and laowhy86 just dropped.
Haven't watched it yet, posting it anyway.
Haven't watched it yet, posting it anyway.
It's the same question China, Russia, and the rest vs the West. If this is your pet topic- nothing wrong with that, if it were a part-time gig that would be concerning. You gave a funny circular answer- I post that China good and the West bad because China Good and the west bad.
I care more about ordinary people than about governments, what they are like to have as neighbors, the Gave brothers are too entangled with the Chinese to tell the truth without risking something.
Putin also is not like your average Russian, knows many languages, doesn't drink, is in shape and gets botox/plastic surgery. I'm more interested in reports from the ground as regular people are who one has to deal with, you're not gonna run into people like Xi, Wang, or Vlad often, going about your day. One member who has worked with Chinese people said it was horrible, and stories like that is what interests me more than the geopolitical games hacks from different countries like to play.
Who is a reaction to whom, and who has more comments... The existence of propaganda isn't a reason to bother with it, it can be ignored which is what most do as it's not worth the time. I tried to find it but couldn't, the things you post can sound like Chinese propaganda of success too, something about a flying car, and the Chinese author of that 2025 tweet was so excited as if it were already their main mode of transport, while similar eVTOL craft (but not for driving) had been produced more than ten years earlier by a dozen different companies from around the world.
In closing, I appreciate all the info everybody here brings.
"The West" has been run by sociopathic oligarchs, for decades now. It has been a kakistocracy. China is not perfect, it is subject to its own peculiar longstanding civilizational traits, but there is not much doubt about their leaders working to improve the lot of their countrymen. That is the difference here, and it is a big one.
As well their leaders truly are the most powerful people in their country, no question, not the case in the West.
Those are the same arguments Russia detractors say about Putin's popularity polls, they think you would get shipped to a gulag if you respond that you're not satisfied with him.
The Gave father and son don't delve too deep into politics, they mostly stick with the Chinese economy, and that's objectively hard to criticize, given the huge progress in the last 30 years. The son is a French pro-West Protestant banker, his father is a hard right supporter in France.
The Chinese didn't invent technologies like high-speed rail, thorium-powered nuclear plants, solar panels etc, but they are good at taking these foreign techs, improving them and implementing them on a massive scale. This is what is apparently about to happen with the low altitude economy aka flying cars: