The China Thread

And before anyone makes a big deal about the Chinese walking by dead or injured people, it happens here as well.
Chinese people don't like to get upset in public or show any strong negative emotion to people, so I was surprised that over the years living there, it was only when I helped people on the street that my Chinese friends got angry with me.

In the USA and the West, apathy to someone lying injured in the street is the exception, but in China it's the norm. The worst example of this apathy was in 2011, in a city next to where I lived, Foshan, Guangdong, where the family of a 2 year-old girl, Wang Yue, also known as "Little Yue Yue," was at a large market crisscrossed by small streets tending their stall.

The girl wandered away and was struck at low speed by a vehicle, and then ignored for over an hour by a total of 18 other people, some pedestrians stepping around her, another vehicle driving over her again, as well as more driving around her. Finally, a street cleaner picked her up and took her to her mother, but she died in the hospital a couple of days later.

These two videos are not gorey, but horrendous nonetheless and not recommended as they're difficult to forget.

 
Following up my previous post about Chinese apathy for injured strangers; the topic of religion is relevant to this problem.

They do this as a way to defend against Foreign Subversion and Cults from forming and taking advantage of the populace. They actually do see the sociological benefits of having religion but prefer to preserve it internally without outside interference.


This Russian Orthodox Christian says that he's lived in China for five years. He says that local folk religions are not suppressed, which is completely false. All religion is strictly controlled and I personally knew members of old Chinese folk religions who had been jailed during the Cultural Revolution in the past, as well as being heavily restricted in the present by the police despite them always obeying the law and all requests from the police. These kinds of restrictions are common place and common knowledge in China, but it's not surprising that a foreigner would say otherwise without explaining any attempts he might have made to discover the truth.

This is relevant to attempt to explain their apathy for injured strangers. Like all people, the Chinese desire God and a spiritual connection to him. Because religion was taken away from them totally for over 30 years under Mao, they are more thirsty for spiritual water than most people, but they are not allowed the natural water, like the Samaritan woman at Jacob's well (John ch. 4), but are only given fake bottled water by the CCP.

One reason why people are receptive to religious teaching is that it provides hope and optimism and its absence in China is one major factor in the pessimism of a people who are afraid to help a bleeding toddler in the street.

Jesus Christ and the good news of the Gospels is almost completely absent in China and it shows.

 
^ This pro-Chinese lobby on here are looking for any type of hopium because of the dark cloud they live under. To believe that China is some great country devoid of jew banksters and the new bastion of winning due to (((their))) societal perfection which is based on atheism is peak clown world.

America has its problems for sure, but claiming China is The Answer and the winner of society without Jesus Christ by their side is demonically inspired well poisoning.
 
Chinese people don't like to get upset in public or show any strong negative emotion to people, so I was surprised that over the years living there, it was only when I helped people on the street that my Chinese friends got angry with me.

In the USA and the West, apathy to someone lying injured in the street is the exception, but in China it's the norm. The worst example of this apathy was in 2011, in a city next to where I lived, Foshan, Guangdong, where the family of a 2 year-old girl, Wang Yue, also known as "Little Yue Yue," was at a large market crisscrossed by small streets tending their stall.
I think you and I are talking past each other, whereas other "China bad" posters in this thread have more nefarious reasons for their posting.

I can't speak for others in this thread, but I suspect they agree with what I am about to say. Let me state this clearly for you...

China is not perfect. China is not my desired destination to live. China has plenty of problems and I am not Chinese or Asian, so their way of living in cramped conditions and working themselves into an early grave with little in return makes no sense to me at all. But I understand that is how they have evolved to be, so I don't wish to interfere with their way of living in their country.

With that said, your side keeps comparing the old west, and lets stop right there and stop calling it the "old west" and call it what it really is, which is White Nationalism with China. Yes, in White Nations people do help each other. I grew up in a 99% White community. I still live in an area that is super high % White. And people here go out of their way to help each other. It is a beautiful way of living.

The problem is, the west is no longer a White Nation, and it will soon be a complete multi-racial hellhole. And as this spreads across the west, all those nice things you take for granted in the west are disappearing. You want to post about the Chinese walking past someone who is hurt. Have you been to any major metro in the west in the last 20 years? They don't just walk past bodies, they go out of their way to kill each other over a pair of shoes, or a drug deal, or "disrespect". And this is becoming more and more common in the west and it is spreading to the burbs and to the rural area at a very quick pace.

In China they walk around an injured person and ignore them. Here, a lot of non-Whites live in areas where they go out of their way to kill each other and then refuse to work with authorities to have the person arrested and we are sitting on a ton of unsolved homicides.

Yea, China isn't my ideal place to live. But for everything you and your side point out bad about China, I can point out something far worse in the exact same topic in the west.

So, for people like me and others in this thread, our point is simple. A non-:White west has 0 future, and no wishing or praying is going to change that. China does have a future. Maybe a dystopian future, but at least they have one. And that is something we are going to have to start to take seriously if you want to change this serious issue.
 
So, for people like me and others in this thread, our point is simple. A non-:White west has 0 future, and no wishing or praying is going to change that.

There's no such thing as a non-white west. The word "West" is already a bit of a sanitization, despite its longstanding use. The word "west" at this point means "rich countries". Once the non-whites take over people will lose the desire to call it the west. It will be known for what it is. Some random country full of browns, blacks, and some white people rolling around on the ground strung out. I don't have to convince you because the muslims are already capitalizing on this reality. Soon they're going to put up billboards. These are going to say "Submit to Allah, instead of drugs, case in point, this Caucasian kafir we snapped a photo of".

White people willfully made their civilization "universal". For everyone. For all cultures. For all mentalities. Since western civilization is for all, in the end it's for no one. We talk about white guilt; white people don't even want to enforce basic laws because they're "oppressive". Is this normal? Look at the "Changs" running the multicultural Singapore. A stark difference.

Someone who's not retarded might ask themselves, are white people or the "changs" doing a better job running a multicultural zoo?

Oops, Changs win again.

Yet people outright lie and tell you it's not what it literally is. This is not an observation; this is official policy. The west is already unrecognizable. Whatever comes next, will have to be a fresh start for white people. There will be no reformation.

These people don't want to admit what was lost. I watched a Korean movie the other day. I don't particularly idolize Koreans, but you know what's great about a Korean movie? In a Korean movie, there's a bunch of Koreans and they try to tell a story or a cautionary tale that is supposed to resonate with Koreans. Come to think of it, this is the appeal of Japanese anime as well. People don't tell you this outright. Their thing is theirs.

When we watch a movie, what do we see? Some weathered white person living against all odds in some multicultural shithole. Everyone he interacts with is brown and black, they always have a broken family, always alone, always experiencing some retarded adversity.
No culture, no safety, no common understanding, just survival. A lot of white morons even seem to like this subhuman reality. I recall reddit fawning over 'the road' and 'Last of us'.

The "changs" for all their faults, actually know that in China, they're going be around the Chinese doing Chinese things. It might not be fun, it might be a miserable family reunion, but at least they can rest easy that all the existential threats are on the outside. No one will harm them for being or acting Chinese. They can dedicate their energy to improving their life or participating in some fad that is distinctly Asian.
 
I think you and I are talking past each other,
A few posters on this board, including in this thread, have already stated to you multiple times that you are talking past each other in a big way.


whereas other "China bad" posters in this thread have more nefarious reasons for their posting.
What nefarious reason do you think is behind someone posting their viewpoint on China with evidence and examples from their own experience?

Would that make you a "USA/West bad" poster in this thread?

So, for people like me and others in this thread, our point is simple. A non-:White west has 0 future, and no wishing or praying is going to change that. China does have a future. Maybe a dystopian future, but at least they have one. And that is something we are going to have to start to take seriously if you want to change this serious issue.
To take "something seriously", as you put it, requires a broad understanding of the topic. I give reports with online links and personal examples from 13 years of living in China's third largest city, a manufacturing and educational center that includes people from all over China, as well as foreign countries, but I'm here to talk about China, whereas most of the "China good / USA bad" posters usually deflect and minimize with abundant tu quoque and constantly changing the topic back to the USA.

You can't be taken seriously as a commenter on China when you are not aware that they have no religious freedom, but when shown your ignorance then you pivot and say it's good that they do not.

China is not perfect. China is not my desired destination to live. China has plenty of problems and I am not Chinese or Asian, so their way of living in cramped conditions and working themselves into an early grave with little in return makes no sense to me at all. But I understand that is how they have evolved to be, so I don't wish to interfere with their way of living in their country.
If you're not interested in how the Chinese live, why are you in this thread?

With that said, your side keeps comparing the old west, and lets stop right there and stop calling it the "old west" and call it what it really is, which is White Nationalism with China.
How so? Can you give an example from this thread of someone posting critical about China and comparing it to the West? I have not seen that at all. What I see is people posting critically of China and you and others turn it around by then comparing that to the USA.

The problem is, the west is no longer a White Nation, and it will soon be a complete multi-racial hellhole. And as this spreads across the west, all those nice things you take for granted in the west are disappearing. You want to post about the Chinese walking past someone who is hurt. Have you been to any major metro in the west in the last 20 years? They don't just walk past bodies, they go out of their way to kill each other over a pair of shoes, or a drug deal, or "disrespect". And this is becoming more and more common in the west and it is spreading to the burbs and to the rural area at a very quick pace.
Why don't you post about this in one of the many threads about the decline of the West, USA, The Inexorable Decline of Chicago and Illinois, Destabilization of US Cities: Crime, Homelessness, Liberalism, Hollywood is Run Like a Satanic Cult, Latest UK Lunacy, Latest Canadian Lunacy, Latest German Madness, etc?

In China they walk around an injured person and ignore them. Here, a lot of non-Whites live in areas where they go out of their way to kill each other and then refuse to work with authorities to have the person arrested and we are sitting on a ton of unsolved homicides.
Textbook whataboutism.

Yea, China isn't my ideal place to live. But for everything you and your side point out bad about China, I can point out something far worse in the exact same topic in the west.
Do it then. Find me an example in the USA comparable to Baby Yue Yue being run over by the same vehicle twice, run over by another vehicle, and ignored by 17 other pedestrians and drivers for an hour, all caught on surveillance cameras.
 
What nefarious reason do you think is behind someone posting their viewpoint on China with evidence and examples from their own experience?

I give reports with online links and personal examples from 13 years of living in China's third largest city, a manufacturing and educational center that includes people from all over China, as well as foreign countries, but I'm here to talk about China, whereas most of the "China good / USA bad" posters usually deflect and minimize with abundant tu quoque and constantly changing the topic back to the USA.

You can't be taken seriously as a commenter on China when you are not aware that they have no religious freedom, but when shown your ignorance then you pivot and say it's good that they do not.

If you're not interested in how the Chinese live, why are you in this thread?

I have not seen that at all. What I see is people posting critically of China and you and others turn it around by then comparing that to the USA.

Textbook whataboutism.

Do it then. Find me an example in the USA comparable to Baby Yue Yue being run over by the same vehicle twice, run over by another vehicle, and ignored by 17 other pedestrians and drivers for an hour, all caught on surveillance cameras.

We both know that the issue here @Cooper, so that's already a strike against you. You know why IIMT joined in.

What's nefarious is claiming Cooper is trying to brainwash the forum with CCP propaganda and constantly counter signaling him regardless of merit. The fact that you want to make the same posts as Negra is strange. Especially for someone who chose to live in a communist dictatorship for 13 years. You're going to make posts about gutter oil? A better question is why you were drinking gutter oil for 13 years.

I also like how you're appealing to the sympathetic mods here with your accusations of forum etiquette.

Since your buddy doesn't like to respond to posts, perhaps you can explain why/how the KGB and China is attacking America, what is the purpose of Cooper's propaganda, why "The century of Humiliation" is an evil anti-white concept, etc.

This will help everyone better understand why China is bad and should be invaded/blockaded. There does seem to a tacit approval on that foreign policy.

People also seem to forget that the biggest America simps are found in these "enemy" countries. They love America in China, in Russia, etc. You didn't notice that in 13 years? Everyone just wants to be friends with these psychotic Jews, but ZOG doesn't want to friends with them. You don't want to share this tidbit with the "patriots"?
 
We both know that the issue here @Cooper, so that's already a strike against you. You know why IIMT joined in.

What's nefarious is claiming Cooper is trying to brainwash the forum with CCP propaganda and constantly counter signaling him regardless of merit. The fact that you want to make the same posts as Negra is strange. Especially for someone who chose to live in a communist dictatorship for 13 years. You're going to make posts about gutter oil? A better question is why you were drinking gutter oil for 13 years.

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If you are an American, and have not seen similar, and in reality far worse, then go check out the "bad area" of the urban centers in the USA.
Because those things in China do not exist in the USA or, with all the reporting, it would be easy to show them.

Complete nonsense. The "slums" in Chinese cities are nothing like the shooting grounds and blocks upon blocks of homeless encampments that you see today in most large US cities. This it what passes as a slum in Chongqing, from a video posted by Magoo one page ago:



It starts in a dirty building with a focus on its unkept courtyard, but the minute you step out on the street, you actually find pretty clean sidewalks with normal shops and restaurants on the main streets and then they plunge into busy old back alleys with small shops, and an alleged red light district that apparently doesn't really exist beyond the captions.

If this is the worst picture that the China detractors tried to gather from a city of 25 million, then I'd reckon these cities are doing pretty well...

Because those things in China do not exist in the USA or, with all the reporting, it would be easy to show them.

Show me the equivalent of this in China today.



Nearly a million homeless in the US, tens of thousands of homeless people in every big American cities, not just one spot as shown in the China video, but several entire neighborhoods across town, streets upon streets, 72,000 homeles in LA alone:

 
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^ This pro-Chinese lobby on here are looking for any type of hopium because of the dark cloud they live under. To believe that China is some great country devoid of jew banksters and the new bastion of winning due to (((their))) societal perfection which is based on atheism is peak clown world.

America has its problems for sure, but claiming China is The Answer and the winner of society without Jesus Christ by their side is demonically inspired well poisoning.

Yes, China runs its own monetary system and is not under globalist banker rule. There is very little inflation in China, because they don't have the equivalent of a privately-held Fed that prints money out of thin air and lends it at interest to the government.

China doesn't do 50 year mortgages, is not run by predatory hedge funds whose owners control the political system (see Trump's puppeteer Adelson, Paul Singer and other billionaires plunking $20 million to unseat Massie).

China is the closest political and economic system to 1930s Germany, a nationalist government that builds cutting edge infrastructure (high-speed rail in China, Autobahn in Germany), whose monetary system is built on labor and industrial output, not on financial speculation. Its industrial capitalism model is not unlike what we had in the West before 1913.
 
Bald and Bankrupt travels from the Vietnam border to Chongqing:


This is one of the best China travel videos I've seen. Was not intending to watch the whole thing, but I can see why he's got 4½ million followers. He's very positive and outgoing. Probably going to watch more of his vids.

He emphasized the good points, but also noticed and quickly mentioned the negatives of traveling in China, which is mainly that there are difficulties you don't find anywhere else, like the Alipay thing and the trouble connecting his card, as well as the lack of English.

I'd always heard Kunming was pretty laid back and I remember when the Dwarf Kingdom opened in 2009 and I was surprised not to see crowded conditions until he got to the very smoggy city of Ching Chong. Somehow other China travelers don't capture the smog on video despite it having the reputation, along with Chengdu.

You have to have an attitude like this Brit in order to have a good time traveling in China. Some people can do it and some can't. I think his feeling that Chinese are friendly has a lot to do with his own good vibes.

His tourist collection of Mandarin phrases was used very well and his pronunciation was certainly good enough to be understood. He definitely set himself up to be ripped off by that first Chinese taxi driver, to whom he handed all that money and refused its return three times while the guy was trying to tell him that the meter would give the charge. I met plenty of Chinese merchants who would have still refused that money and also some who would have done the same. Taxi drivers in China have a pretty bad reputation and this was not the worst example.
 
Yes, China runs its own monetary system and is not under globalist banker rule. There is very little inflation in China, because they don't have the equivalent of a privately-held Fed that prints money out of thin air and lends it at interest to the government.
Tell us more. How does it work there? What's the name of their bank? How is money created?
 
China's just a never ending gift, and ridiculing the mindless deadeyed CCP drones is like shooting fish in a barrel aka the cherry on the cake. Yesterday yours truly posted a video of Chinese building 'shedding' aka half the outer layer routinely coming off, today the roof of a shopping mall comes down on half a dozen shoppers, shopping mall was opened for 3 days.


Today a recently renovated historical city gate collapsed in Chengdu. This historic building had its crumbling facade and structural base redone, and was festivally re-opened weeks ago. Fun fact: only the renovated part came down, the historical building that was still in decent shape didn't.

After the collapse the area was immediately cordoned off and information online was getting suppressed. No words on casualties, though getting a 10 kg brick on your coconut from a 30 meter height usually doesn't bode well. China truly is living in the future.

 
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Tell us more. How does it work there? What's the name of their bank? How is money created?
Was gonna ask the same. They've been sending their finance types to the US and Europe to learn the ropes, and they follow the same west-developed econ theories, but with tighter controls. China, whatever their reasons, had until recently been the largest buyer and holder of US debt, financing and enabling everything in America people complain about. Investing many times over the amount of money they get through trade. Without that lifeline America could never afford her destructive welfare system and keep other detrimental policies alive.
 
Today a recently renovated historical city gate collapsed in Chengdu. This historic building had its crumbling facade and structural base redone, and was festivally re-opened weeks ago. Fun fact: only the renovated part came down, the historical building that was still in decent shape didn't.

After the collapse the area was immediately cordoned off and information online was getting suppressed. No words on casualties, though getting a 10 kg brick on your coconut from a 30 meter height usually doesn't bode well. China truly is living in the future.




This happened six months ago, somebody already posted it here IIRC. Anytime something bad happens in China, the China Bad industry will cover it from every angle, and in a slower period, occasionally recycle some stories...

I bet all the buildings in your country never collapse.



 
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Was gonna ask the same. They've been sending their finance types to the US and Europe to learn the ropes, and they follow the same west-developed econ theories, but with tighter controls. China, whatever their reasons, had until recently been the largest buyer and holder of US debt, financing and enabling everything in America people complain about. Investing many times over the amount of money they get through trade. Without that lifeline America could never afford her destructive welfare system and keep other detrimental policies alive.
That's called a reserve currency.

American banking system functions as a giant ledger of world transactions, in crypto terms. American debts and payments are mostly an IOU within the American banking system, including the FED. You can tell America you want your IOU to be a treasury accumulating interest instead of cash. America will also settle the payments two countries have between each other.
 
That's called a reserve currency.

Of course, and it isn't so because America insists it must be this way- although the whining bricks countries would have you believe that. The USD is the world's reserve currency because it's the best choice which all of them go for, even though they could buy debt denominated in quetzals, kwaanzas, rubles, rands, khomeinis, pol-pots, etc.

And all the shithole countries prefer to issue in dollars, but don't have to.
 
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Thought that Trump had ended birthright citizenship, did his EO get overturned by some Walmart Judge in 1000 pop retardville or something? Now seeing videos scraped from Wechat on the birthright scam, affluent Chang families still pay 40k USD plus to handlers and have entire brochures and workshops on how to fool the system into getting in.

Not good, yet at the same time further proof that the US is collapsing.

The US authorities have been working very hard to crack down illegal immigration. However, birth tourism seems to be untouched, still booming, especially in Chinese community.
Today I came across some WeChat videos promoting USA birth tourism (赴美生子), all new videos within a week.
In the past those Chinese birth tourism centers (月子中心) asked their Chinese clients lie to US visa officials about the purpose of their trips to USA, now they tell their clients to be upfront with visa officials - be honest they want to come to USA for child birth. The visa officials just have to grant the entry.
These birth tourism centers (mostly in CA) offer their clients detailed Q&A guide for visa applications. They charge their clients (pregnant women) in China $40K or RMB 350K for each birth, including everything. They said such cost is even lower than in China's big cities.


 
Was gonna ask the same. They've been sending their finance types to the US and Europe to learn the ropes, and they follow the same west-developed econ theories, but with tighter controls. China, whatever their reasons, had until recently been the largest buyer and holder of US debt, financing and enabling everything in America people complain about. Investing many times over the amount of money they get through trade. Without that lifeline America could never afford her destructive welfare system and keep other detrimental policies alive.

No, I think they reinvest part of their US$ trade surpluses mostly, which currently are nearly $1 trillion per year, so they have accumulated several trillions over the last decade plus in trade surpluses. IIRC they have issued around $3 trillion in loans total, both to developed countries and to third countries (mostly BRI partners), the latter at lower interest rates relative to the IMF/World Bank going rates.


They've been sending their finance types to the US and Europe to learn the ropes, and they follow the same west-developed econ theories, but with tighter controls.

Many of these finance types sent to the West are pretty smart and perceptive dudes, and unlike most of their western counterparts don't have cultural blinders - they are very much JQ aware by virtue of having their country sucked dry for over a century by families like the Sassoons, Kadoories and their Rothschild partners.



Once again, the central bank of China aka the PBC is a public institution that issues currency to the state at no interest rate. That's how the US Treasury operated until 1913, and how the Banque de France (one of the last western holdouts) operated until after the death of Charles de Gaulle in 1973, when the first Rothschild banker (Macron being the latest) Georges Pompidou succeeded de Gaulle and privatized the central bank. Neither the US nor France had much debt before these changes took place. The PBC is the lone major holdout, that is the fundamental difference with the Fed and every other western central bank, including the Japanese and S. Korean banks which are satellites.

The Chinese kept the ((banksters)) in the China game through other conduits, in JVs with conglomerates like CITIC, in which the Rockefellers and Canadian Desmarais were/are heavily involved. The Chinese can cut that spigot at their discretion any time, including the businesses of leading oligarchs like the Adelson, who own the largest casinos in Macau, which gives them power and influence over the banksters.

In Korea, nationalist strongman president Chung-Hee Park consolidated power in the 1970s, eliminated communist opposition, but made the ultimate faux pas in 1979 when he pushed for SK to print its own currency instead of having the Korean central bank borrow the money it issues at interest from the US Fed, which resulted in his assassination. That's why S. Korea, a small nation that dominates entire major global industries like consumer electronics, cellphones, auto and chips is still not a very rich country, they should be a lot richer than their current GDP per capita of $35k, vs $90k in the US.

Same with Taiwan, a small country which dominates high-end chip manufacturing, arguably the highest added value manufacturing industry today, but is still not rolling in gold, only a mid-level industrial country with a GDP per capita 2.5 times lower than the US.

The mainland Chinese upper classes, intellectuals, policymakers and bankers are, as I was saying above, very much aware of the inner workings of the western monetary system, ironically more so than their Taiwanese, S Korean or Japanese counterparts. A lot of that awareness stems from their history under Jewish control up to the mid to late 20th century, and also from the work of one of these experts sent abroad, Song Hongbing, an academic with practical international banking experience who wrote a bestseller called "Currency Wars", a series of books that sold tens of millions of hard and digital copies in China.


"Currency Wars (simplified Chinese: 货币战争; traditional Chinese: 貨幣戰爭; pinyin: Huòbì zhànzhēng), is an antisemitic essay (LOL) by Chinese author Song Hongbing. Originally published in 2007, it gained a resurgence in 2009 and has been described as a prominent exponent of a recently emerged genre labeled "economic nationalist" literature. The premise of the book is that Western countries are controlled by a group of Jewish international bankers, which, according to Song, runs their central banks. It uses the claim that the Federal Reserve is a private body to support its role."


"Kosher" review of Currency Wars

Song didn't invent the wheel, he built on the work of the likes of Eustace Mullins and Edward Griffin, and added to that basis his observations on the modern international monetary system as someone who has had hands on experience in international banking.
 
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No, I think they reinvest part of their US$ trade surpluses mostly, which currently are nearly $1 trillion per year, so they have accumulated several trillions over the last decade plus in trade surpluses. IIRC they have issued around $3 trillion in loans total, both to developed countries and to third countries (mostly BRI partners), the latter at lower interest rates relative to the IMF/World Bank going rates.

Many of these finance types sent to the West are pretty smart and perceptive dudes, and unlike most of their western counterparts don't have cultural blinders - they are very much JQ aware by virtue of having their country sucked dry for over a century by families like the Sassoons, Kadoories and their Rothschild partners.
I'm talking US- China relations, with the US China had a $262 B trade surplus in 2024,

edit: their peak holdings were at 1.3T in 2013, now it's $750 B, this year they may buy $75B of US debt. You're right it could be about 1/3 of the trade surplus this year. In 2013 the yuan was kept lower, I'm not searching for data, probably the same thing maybe up to 2/3 back then, still less than their trade balance with the US, my mistake.

Anyway they kept the terrible US government policies on life support as I suspect US debt has always been the largest part of their foreign debt holdings. You blame drug dealing and trading Jews for the predicament of addicts- the US is nominally (not as debt/gdp) the world's largest debtor nation thanks to China which gives the country the money to buy the drug.

You keep posting this Jews/Opium stuff over and over, a real user will usually only mention something a few times, without burying the organic discussion in long redundant passages. I have seen this pattern on the Polish net too. I'm more interested in reading real people who live/have lived there answering how it is/was. But don't be discouraged, I know you won't be. I tend to ignore what I perceive as artificial.
 
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I'm talking US- China relations, with the US China had a $262 B trade surplus in 2024,

edit: their peak holdings were at 1.3T in 2013, now it's $750 B, this year they may buy $75B of US debt. You're right it could be about 1/3 of the trade surplus this year. In 2013 the yuan was kept lower, I'm not searching for data, probably the same thing maybe up to 2/3 back then, still less than their trade balance with the US, my mistake.

Anyway they kept the terrible US government policies on life support as I suspect US debt has always been the largest part of their foreign debt holdings. You blame drug dealing and trading Jews for the predicament of addicts- the US is nominally (not as debt/gdp) the world's largest debtor nation thanks to China which gives the country the money to buy the drug.

The subject that came up yesterday was a discussion of the monetary system in China:

Tell us more. How does it work there? What's the name of their bank? How is money created?

And on that subject, the tribal cultural element is essential, it is an accurate assessment. And in the context of China, it is also essential to present the experience of the Chinese with foreign clans that are tightly connected with the owners of the international banking cartel.


You keep posting this Jews/Opium stuff over and over, a real user will usually only mention something a few times, without burying the organic discussion in long redundant passages. I have seen this pattern on the Polish net too. I'm more interested in reading real people who live/have lived there answering how it is/was. But don't be discouraged, I know you won't be. I tend to ignore what I perceive as artificial.

I have posted 2-3 times in some detail about the Opium Wars and opium trade in China, aspects that have completely dominated nearly 100 years in their recent political, social and economic history, on a thread with 71 pages and this material is by no means gratuitous, it is an essential aspect of modern Chinese history that has had a strong influence on their current policies and global outlook - nothing "artificial" about that.

If you have no interest in Chinese history and prefer to talk about shopping mall incidents then you can skip posts like the one above where I discuss central banking in China and the far east.
 
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