Uh oh. If I remember correctly this was a censored topic back in the day and it may be as well now. The programming still runs strong to attempt to discuss THIS thing freely. So 4, 3, 2, 1...
"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork."
-Wernher von Braun, Psalm 19:1
Yes, nothing at all. And even if there is, as it is, it would still be "there's nothing to discuss here!!!" So yes, shut it down.There's nothing to discuss here! Neither from a scientific/secular nor biblical angle. I say we shut it down before it even starts. Not yet another thread in the flat-earth category.
I am not a flat earther but the constant urge to limit others in their speech is annoying.^^^^^
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I am not a flat earther but the constant urge to limit others in their speech is annoying.
If you feel so confident about your worldview and arguments why not discuss it?
Yes, nothing at all. And even if there is, as it is, it would still be "there's nothing to discuss here!!!" So yes, shut it down.
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Read this:You can see the moon, you can see satellites. You can see most of the planets and some of their moons with a cheap telescope. What would change if space was fake? what is their to gain from that?
The only reasonable discussion of this topic is to point out how ignorant it is. This would be like having a thread saying it is good to smash your fingers with a hammer, then getting righteously criticised and ridiculed, and complaining why can't we discuss it and consider the evidence.I am not a flat earther but the constant urge to limit others in their speech is annoying.
If you feel so confident about your worldview and arguments why not discuss it?
Some of these are just rich.
If anything it's good to weed out people who cannot think critically, so long as they argue in good faith.The only reasonable discussion of this topic is to point out how ignorant it is. This would be like having a thread saying it is good to smash your fingers with a hammer, then getting righteously criticised and ridiculed, and complaining why can't we discuss it and consider the evidence.
If you're such a critical thinker, go ahead and debunk all 200 proofs, or at least most of them, instead of citing a few bad оr shaky ones, lumping the rest in with them and sticking labels around. Just go ahead and do it. I'll wait. Until then there is no point in discussing it further.Some of these are just rich.
There was one about a cannon -- if the earth is spinning eastward, then shooting a cannon ball north or south would skew the ball. The ball wouldn't land straight north (if it was shot northward).
Thing is, we're all moving on the spinning ball, as is the atmosphere.
It's like when you're in an airplane. Everyone in the airplane is moving at the same speed as the airplane, but it looks like every day life on the ground even though you're traveling hundreds of mph. From inside the plane, it's normal looking.
Most of the other "proofs" in this fall in this category. The one about the Red Bull space jump says that the guy would have landed hundred of miles away. Or that you could just go in a hot air balloon and wait and eventually the earth beneath you would spin to where you want to go.
Ok, then, how come when I jump straight up into the air, I land exactly where I jumped from? Is it flat earth, or is it that I'm moving with the earth too?
Flat earthers do not have a model that actually works. Once they have that, I'll happily inspect it, but things like cell phones and satellites just would not work with flat earth.
You're not arguing in good faith.If you're such a critical thinker, go ahead and debunk all 200 proofs, or at least most of them, instead of citing a few bad оr shaky ones, lumping the rest in with them and sticking labels around. Just go ahead and do it. I'll wait. Until then there is no point in discussing it further.
The spin of the earth does in fact affect the fall of a cannon ball or any other ballistic trajectory.Some of these are just rich.
There was one about a cannon -- if the earth is spinning eastward, then shooting a cannon ball north or south would skew the ball. The ball wouldn't land straight north (if it was shot northward).
Thing is, we're all moving on the spinning ball, as is the atmosphere.
It's like when you're in an airplane. Everyone in the airplane is moving at the same speed as the airplane, but it looks like every day life on the ground even though you're traveling hundreds of mph. From inside the plane, it's normal looking.
Most of the other "proofs" in this fall in this category. The one about the Red Bull space jump says that the guy would have landed hundred of miles away. Or that you could just go in a hot air balloon and wait and eventually the earth beneath you would spin to where you want to go.
Ok, then, how come when I jump straight up into the air, I land exactly where I jumped from? Is it flat earth, or is it that I'm moving with the earth too?
Flat earthers do not have a model that actually works. Once they have that, I'll happily inspect it, but things like cell phones and satellites just would not work with flat earth.
You call these clownish made-up jokes evidence, that should be discussed? Embarrassing!
Is there any distinction between "space is fake" and "flat earth"? Or do people hold that space is fake but we are on a globe?
Uh oh. If I remember correctly this was a censored topic back in the day and it may be as well now.