Vox Day

scorpion said:
Best post from Vox I've seen in awhile. Wish he would do more of this content and less pearl clutching about Neil Gaiman's sex life.

The Minestrippers - Vox Popoli

It’s not just big established companies that are being managed into irrelevance and eventual extinction. A good article on the “mismanagerial class” doesn’t quite get down to the roots of the structural problem with the US corpocracy: The problem of companies being enthusiastically managed into...
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America has basically become a get rich quick society -- work little but get paid a lot. That mentality is starting to permeate every facet of the business world. It's even seeped into the religious sphere and we see it with megachurches.
 
I followed Vox Day for several months in 2019 when he was doing Unauthorized TV with Owen Benjamin, but I got tired of him talking about his alleged 150 IQ. The last straw for me was when he went on this spergy tirade saying that because he was so much smarter than everyone else that we all sounded like animals to him. He actually made weird noises on air to let his video audience know what he thought they were.

When I heard later that he couldn't give up on Q-anon I knew I'd saved myself some watching time. Things are complicated but no one with a properly functioning 150 brain could take Q seriously, especially someone already familiar with all the conspiracy theories and how they can get out of hand.

He'd injured his knee playing soccer around that time and I wondered if maybe he was taking pain meds that were messing with him. Either that or Owen's flat earth influence scrambled his noggin for a while.

Imagine being as experienced as he was and believing in Q for more than 150 seconds.
 
Only 150? I thought, by the way he hinted at it, he was 160 or 170, basically an IQ only calculable from specific tests designed for the very high IQ. If I want to read or hear someone who is high IQ there's always Chris Langan, otherwise why bother?
 
thinkreadwritecode said:
Only 150? I thought, by the way he hinted at it, he was 160 or 170, basically an IQ only calculable from specific tests designed for the very high IQ. If I want to read or hear someone who is high IQ there's always Chris Langan, otherwise why bother?
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I was watching both Owen Benjamin and Vox Day for several months in the second half of 2019 when they each said they were 150 IQ. I remember people asking Vox about the IQ thing and he posted links to sites where you could plug in your scores from SAT or ASVAB / military entrance and get a match to your IQ.

At the end of the day IQ is like target practice. It's done in a low-pressure setting with no one shooting back at you. While you can be perfect on the range with paper targets, if you wet your pants in combat and shoot high and right every time, like believing in Q-anon for years longer than you should, then your alleged IQ doesn't really matter.
 
Just a particularly inspiring post from Vox this morning (I bolded the part in the penultimate paragraph):

The Collapse of Scientific Materialism​

And the end of the Enlightenment. Ted Gioia correctly observes ten warning signs of the comprehensive collapse of the knowledge system known as “modernity”.

  • Scientific studies don’t replicate.
  • Public distrust of experts has reached an intensity never seen before.
  • The career path for knowledge workers is breaking down—and many only have unpaid student loans to show for their years of training and preparation.
  • Funding for science and tech research is disappearing in every sphere and sector.
  • Universities have lost their prestige, and have made enemies of their core constituencies.
  • Plagiarism is getting exposed at all levels from students to corporations—and all the way to Harvard’s president. But the authorities just take it for granted.
  • AI is imposed everywhere as the new expert system. But when it hallucinates and generates ridiculous responses, the authorities (again) take this for granted.
  • Science and technology are increasingly used to manipulate and exploit, not serve. People now see actual degradation in every sphere of technology.
  • Scandals are everywhere in the knowledge economy (Theranos, Sam Bankman-Fried, collapsing meme coins, COVID, etc).
  • We hear constant bickering about “fake science”—from all political and ideological stances. Nobody talks about “true science.”
All of these things are the direct result of the subversive attack on Christendom by Clown World. It is not possible to have science without truth, and it is not possible for Man to recognize truth while rejecting Truth. Modernity is a spiritual and philosophical sickness that is based upon a false foundation of subversion and groundless pride.

Every virtue of Clown World is a vice. Every stated truth is a lie. And it is not possible to build anything, from a functioning school to a thriving society, on what is, in the end, a philosophy of parasites.

What comes next is collapse, followed by the harsh and pitiless rule of those whose devotion to God, truth, and beauty will no know mercy for those who ruined the world due to their stupid and futile ambition to make themselves gods.
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It’s been a while since I’ve seen a really stupid post by Vox, but here it is: if you don’t like AI slop, you’re a Marxist or something. Reading stuff like this reveals Vox is as much a utopian technocrat as many a Silicon Valley transhumanist nut, he simple sets the dials a little different where the utopian outcome is Mvh Western Cvltvre with naked statues and opera houses blasting techno and streets full of anorexic blonde Norwegian women wearing crosses as a fashion statement, rather than uploading your brain elements into an immortal robot body or whatever. Though it wouldn’t surprise me if he was in on that too.
 
Hermetic Seal said:
It’s been a while since I’ve seen a really stupid post by Vox, but here it is: if you don’t like AI slop, you’re a Marxist or something. Reading stuff like this reveals Vox is as much a utopian technocrat as many a Silicon Valley transhumanist nut, he simple sets the dials a little different where the utopian outcome is Mvh Western Cvltvre with naked statues and opera houses blasting techno and streets full of anorexic blonde Norwegian women wearing crosses as a fashion statement, rather than uploading your brain elements into an immortal robot body or whatever. Though it wouldn’t surprise me if he was in on that too.
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I think that is a good post. It is clearly tongue in cheek trolling. He gets in some good shots on the Labor Theory of Value while he's at it.

His real point is that people shouldn't dismiss AI content just because it is AI. If the content is good, it has value, even if it is AI. Likewise, if the content is bad, then it doesn't matter who or what made it. I think this is true as long as you remain grounded as to what is truly good.

Edit: I got a kick out of your description of his utopian outcome. I used your description as an AI prompt and got this picture! Interestingly, my prompt stopped after fashion statement and didn't mention the robots, but the AI added robots anyway.

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Hermetic Seal said:
It’s been a while since I’ve seen a really stupid post by Vox, but here it is: if you don’t like AI slop, you’re a Marxist or something.
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Vox is leaning into AI hard, using it for both writing and making music. He's convinced it's the next big thing, and will be a necessary tool for all creatives going forward. I think he's probably right, at least in regard to mass-market media. The productivity gains from using AI in creative applications are astounding, and creators who are able to harness and direct AI efficiently will soon dominate the media landscape.

That being said, I think Vox and others who go down this road are swallowing a bit of a poison pill. The more you rely on AI to do the heavy lifting, the more your own creative muscles will inevitably atrophy. Very quickly, people are going to become entirely reliant on AI, not only to produce content, but to generate new ideas. Just like people completely lose their ability to navigate if they rely on a GPS to guide them everywhere, those who utilize AI heavily are voluntarily making themselves dependent on it. It's very much a deal with the Devil in that regard: you will certainly gain short-term power and efficiency, but you'll lose part of yourself in the bargain, and the longer you use it, the more of yourself you will lose.
 
I see AI as a good tool for things like a ramped up "intelligent" search engine for real world applications. But I really begin to question its use in a literary fashion as Vox seems to be okay with. It's unsettling to me because if it's pumping out complete sentences or paragraphs, where is the line between creation and guiding a machine with prompts? Is there really a soul -- or a muse, as Homer might say -- behind the writing?

Also, when it comes to more metaphysical concepts, AI can be programmed to avoid or mischaracterize topics its parameters aren't allowed to dive into. We've seen this with certain JQ discussions.
 
Ember said:
Deepseek has been helping me to diagnose and repair faulty electronic gear. As my electronics skills are fairly rudimentary, this has been amazing, and educational. It is like having a personal tutor.
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Writing code is so much easier with AI. The only downside is wondering how much longer anyone is going to need me, a human being, around to write code.
 
scary_robot_music said:
Writing code is so much easier with AI. The only downside is wondering how much longer anyone is going to need me, a human being, around to write code.
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I have been using it for code recently too. I have always had to look up how to code this thing or that, and before I'd find a code snippet on some forum, or maybe CodeProject. Recently the AI summary on Google has been providing the example, and you can add extra details to the search prompt to customize the answer.

At least in my case I can't see how it could replace me. It can provide code snippets but I have to put them together to make the whole system. With a sufficiently detailed prompt it might be able to produce a large project, but I think it would be hard to get it to address all the requirements correctly.

Farther down the road an AI might be able to understand the entire project requirements and design, and provide all the code, along with CAD models for all required parts, circuit diagrams, wire lists, parts lists, documentation package, etc.

That could happen in just a few years, but as far as I know it can't do it yet.
 
What I been hearing from other developers is that currently AI is at about the level of a new junior developer. It's a a reason a lot of these recent computer science graduates are having trouble finding their first job .
 
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This is just crazy talk. Of course AI is the work of the devil and is coming for us. AI is taking over all of humanity and everyone is becoming dependent on it. Hard pass... and yet I can't because It has already infiltrated my life without me requesting it to do so and without my permission. The only way out of The Matrix at this point is to load up on books (I have about a 1000 on various subjects from philosophy to how to build a deck), unplug from the internet and smart phones, and move to the woods and forget the outside world. Out of sight, out of mind and hear no evil, speak no evil are not methods of sticking one's head in the sand, they are methods of analyzing The Situation correctly and knowing when to cut and run as a mode of survival. At this late stage, The Machine cannot be defeated. "Running away" from the AI generated deep fake globohomo clown world and It's jew produced 24 hour news and information cycle is becoming our only viable course of action. Otherwise, we are looking at a world of play jew games, win jew prizes (debanking for counter semetic wrong speak and/or jail time for fighting back against the synagogue of satan, illegal hispanics, panjeets, somalis, muzzies, and native born n*ggers in the streets).

Get. Out. Now.
 
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If the bad guys' plan involves relying on what they're currently referring to as "AI" for the heavy lifting, that's great news for us because it stinks and any system built on it is guaranteed to fail catastrophically.

Tried several different models to help study for certification exams and they all consistently gave incorrect values and answers to basic questions. It was not only useless, but a liability. I wasn't asking for top secret info, this was all publicly available information, that I can quickly find on my own via books, study guides, even a quick internet search, yet completely beyond the ability of "AI".

It reeks of tech bubble money grab to me. In practice it's a huge letdown, and fails to live up to the sales pitch. There is no actual "intelligence" in it. I'd call it a fancier calculator, main difference being that a TI-83 actually works.
 
mountainaire said:
If the bad guys' plan involves relying on what they're currently referring to as "AI" for the heavy lifting, that's great news for us...
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AI is advanced computing and it is growing and improving every second of everyday. And just look at what computers have already done. They've destroyed innocence, youth, and childhood creating a society of homosexual, atheistic, porn addicted, bleeding heart whites who have been programmed by "ineffective" AI driven smart phones to betray their own people by crying and screaming at other whites when they attempt to deport illegal hispanics.

As we've already seen, humans cannot outsmart nor outpower computers. This is the work of the devil. Just look at the satanic (((characters))) like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and Zuckerberg who are/were behind this whole technological Antichrist "revolution."

The only way to stop AI merging with robotics and completely subjugating humans would be to decentralize the internet so humans have the ability to shut it down should the Big Brother surveillance state get out of control. But unfortunately that has already happened and too many humans have already become addicted to their computers, phones, internet, and to their "streaming services" to get them to understand the threat now. We are past the point of no return. An individual's only hope for freedom and privacy in the future is to become an untraceable unknown which requires abandoning one's digital footprint and disappearing into the natural wilderness (i.e. GOD'S Country).
 
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