I don't understand this statement, especially your parentheses.
I asked you to explain how they are an enemy. You went on to list things that every major power in the world does.
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I listened to all of it. I’m convinced our (((overlords))) will draw out this war indefinitely. Doesn’t matter who gets elected in the USA in November, the military arms industry is too strong and will shut down any peace talks .
The one thing that could change that is if Ukraine decides to kill or oust Zelenskyy and install someone else to force a peace .
This is basically where we are at, Ukraine has lost a long time ago but the west refuses sign an agreement. At one point in the interview Putin mentioned they had an agreement in place in I think Turkey (maybe Poland I forget) but a western official came in midway to put a stop to it.
I also noticed there seemed to a breakdown in the language barrier even with interpreters Tucker would ask a question, Putin would answer in a literal sense for like ten minutes then Tucker tries again and rephrased it but it’s remarkable that the interview happened at all
The one thing that could change that is if Ukraine decides to kill or oust Zelenskyy and install someone else to force a peace .
This is basically where we are at, Ukraine has lost a long time ago but the west refuses sign an agreement. At one point in the interview Putin mentioned they had an agreement in place in I think Turkey (maybe Poland I forget) but a western official came in midway to put a stop to it.
I also noticed there seemed to a breakdown in the language barrier even with interpreters Tucker would ask a question, Putin would answer in a literal sense for like ten minutes then Tucker tries again and rephrased it but it’s remarkable that the interview happened at all
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Here we go again, Putin referring to the US's "ruling elites" as the source of the world's problems without naming names. C'mon Vlad! Could we get at least one "Berg" or "Stein"? How about one poison door handle for one of these pesky "elites"? "Nope, don't know who they are, can't find them, can't help you with Them KGB-style, even though They're single handedly ruining the world."
I'm checking out now, Putin is referring to Bush Jr. as a "smart" guy. I consider myself to have officially been trolled. Thanks for nothing Tucker! What a wasted opportunity.
I'm checking out now, Putin is referring to Bush Jr. as a "smart" guy. I consider myself to have officially been trolled. Thanks for nothing Tucker! What a wasted opportunity.
The worst is when he implied, paraphrasing;
“Everyone around the world suppresses any neo-nazism and nationalism that might spring up, and rightfully so, yet Ukraine doesn’t”
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I gave an honest response to your questions regardless your reactions, yet here you are trying to dig more while maybe having a specific thing in your mind.
I’ll simplify, the US gets to do things that Russia isn’t allowed to. The reason is simply the power by way of economic output, technological advancements, dominant superior military, unmatched diplomacy, GDP, overall wealth.
Russia is an enemy because it tries to mimic the US in power projection by pointing fingers to the US like a kindergartener and justifying its actions by illustrating that the US has done or is doing the same things. Russia is an enemy because it tries to forcefully assimilate foreign cultures and ethnicities into their own, thus changing the entire global order.
Anyways, hope this helps clarify things further.
I'm trying to "dig more" because your answers don't make any distinctions in any of the parties involved. The US does this to "perfection" if that's what one wants to call it, or with maximum effort, yet you ascribe that to Russia as something they do that's bad. The rest of your answer is basically that might makes right, and the US just gets to do what it wants since it has power and economic control or innovation.
Putin was obviously talking about the Azov Battalion.
I can't recall the last time I was so interested in a news event. It's kind of funny that so many here are excited to hear from the leader of a foreign land that most of us have no connection to. I guess this is what it was like to live in 19th century England or Tsarist Russia--you actually get excited when your leader speaks to you.
The defense of "why it's ok to talk to Bad Man" stuff is pretty terrible. We are seeing it even in this forum? Really? Remember, mainstream media interviewed Osama bin Laden, Hitler, and Saddam Hussein, and Putin has been interviewed recently by NBC, CBS, and Showtime. (None of the above are bad guys by the way).
I've only watched half so far. The major takeaway is that the US has been controlled by a deep state for several decades now.
This should be the headline and biggest takeaway that every news outlet runs with. Anyway, the world is now on notice, and I would expect international diplomatic relations with America will change significantly from this point forward.
Putin recalls several instances where he made headway with US presidents, going back to Bill Clinton, only for them to come back and say "sorry, my team won't allow what we talked about after all." This confirms what many of us have known for years--that the US suffered a coup de etat in 1963 and ever since has been controlled by elites rather than democratic rule.
The second point is that Putin is extremely intelligent, and wise, but I'm not sure he is the best spokesperson. His talks with Oliver Stone (who is far more knowledgeable, patient, curious, and intelligent than Tucker) are far more interesting, so perhaps this is not all Putin's fault, but the first rule of public speaking is to know your audience. If you are speaking primarily to Americans, you really need to dumb it down. You can go into detail and provide facts and evidence and support as well, but there should be a succinct summary of your position that the average Fatmerican can understand.
Perhaps it's just not the Russian style, but basic American grade school teaches the 5 paragraph model where you introduce an idea / hypothesis in the first paragraph, develop it over the next 3 paragraphs, then summarize it again in the last one. I have enormous respect for Putin, the only living statesman today, but it's a bit disappointing that Andrew Anglin gave a much clearer summary of the Ukraine situation before even listening to Putin's speech:
I get it, power point and bullet points are kind of gay, but an American audience really needs you to break it down like:
1) Ukraine was our neighbor we got along with fine until the 2014 coup.
2) After the democratically elected government of Ukraine was overthrown, they began randomly killing civilians in Russia, eventually killing 15,000 of them
3) The Zelensky clown came to power and began trying to learn Ukrainian (which he didn't speak and still can't very well) and said he would put nukes on our border and that was the last straw.
4) Would America wait until 15,000 of its people were killed if one of its neighbors over threw their government and started killing Americans?
Cover that in the first 90 seconds, and then you can do the big brain history stuff, and you will, in Shakespearean style, win both the retards and autists alike. Either way kudos to Tucker and Putin and I hope many heads explode.
The other thing I'll add is Putin immediately called out Tucker's insane "why would America dislike a strong Russia? They don't seem to care about a strong China" nonsense. My mouth dropped open when I heard that whopper. And Tucker *himself* does the China hysteria BS (including the absurd "chinese spy balloon hoax") so that was a *REALLY* ridiculous thing to say. I don't think he's a shill, but Tucker is just not that bright a bulb.
The defense of "why it's ok to talk to Bad Man" stuff is pretty terrible. We are seeing it even in this forum? Really? Remember, mainstream media interviewed Osama bin Laden, Hitler, and Saddam Hussein, and Putin has been interviewed recently by NBC, CBS, and Showtime. (None of the above are bad guys by the way).
I've only watched half so far. The major takeaway is that the US has been controlled by a deep state for several decades now.
This should be the headline and biggest takeaway that every news outlet runs with. Anyway, the world is now on notice, and I would expect international diplomatic relations with America will change significantly from this point forward.
Putin recalls several instances where he made headway with US presidents, going back to Bill Clinton, only for them to come back and say "sorry, my team won't allow what we talked about after all." This confirms what many of us have known for years--that the US suffered a coup de etat in 1963 and ever since has been controlled by elites rather than democratic rule.
The second point is that Putin is extremely intelligent, and wise, but I'm not sure he is the best spokesperson. His talks with Oliver Stone (who is far more knowledgeable, patient, curious, and intelligent than Tucker) are far more interesting, so perhaps this is not all Putin's fault, but the first rule of public speaking is to know your audience. If you are speaking primarily to Americans, you really need to dumb it down. You can go into detail and provide facts and evidence and support as well, but there should be a succinct summary of your position that the average Fatmerican can understand.
Perhaps it's just not the Russian style, but basic American grade school teaches the 5 paragraph model where you introduce an idea / hypothesis in the first paragraph, develop it over the next 3 paragraphs, then summarize it again in the last one. I have enormous respect for Putin, the only living statesman today, but it's a bit disappointing that Andrew Anglin gave a much clearer summary of the Ukraine situation before even listening to Putin's speech:
That would take about 2 minutes, and most people would understand the Russian position, whether they believed it or not.
I get it, power point and bullet points are kind of gay, but an American audience really needs you to break it down like:
1) Ukraine was our neighbor we got along with fine until the 2014 coup.
2) After the democratically elected government of Ukraine was overthrown, they began randomly killing civilians in Russia, eventually killing 15,000 of them
3) The Zelensky clown came to power and began trying to learn Ukrainian (which he didn't speak and still can't very well) and said he would put nukes on our border and that was the last straw.
4) Would America wait until 15,000 of its people were killed if one of its neighbors over threw their government and started killing Americans?
Cover that in the first 90 seconds, and then you can do the big brain history stuff, and you will, in Shakespearean style, win both the retards and autists alike. Either way kudos to Tucker and Putin and I hope many heads explode.
The other thing I'll add is Putin immediately called out Tucker's insane "why would America dislike a strong Russia? They don't seem to care about a strong China" nonsense. My mouth dropped open when I heard that whopper. And Tucker *himself* does the China hysteria BS (including the absurd "chinese spy balloon hoax") so that was a *REALLY* ridiculous thing to say. I don't think he's a shill, but Tucker is just not that bright a bulb.
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Eastern European mentality is simple.
Russia is corrupt and wants everyone to stay poor.
America is the land of prosperity and freedom, which might break a few eggs to make an omelet.
Just imagine that and realize that’s their core argument they work backwards from.
"The power by way of economic output and technological advancement" has hundreds of thousands of homeless people, a child mortality rate lower than many third world countries, and will sentence you to 15 years in jail for burning the rainbow flag. There are more homeless people in LA alone than in all of Russia.
The US is no longer the industrial power it used to be, it's in a terminal stage of financial capitalism based on private fractional monetary reserve system, an oligarchic empire based on three main power projection axes: monetary domination of the US$, modern liberal dogma that appeals to the masses, and global military hegemony. If you take away one of these items, the empire collapses.
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I think there’s a general misconception about my viewpoint.
I do not disagree one bit about how f***ed up things have gotten here in the recent years. Frankly, sometimes I find myself remembering exact dates in the past 5-10 years to see whether there were lots of direct signs of things getting to this point and what have I missed.
But to shift from this disagreement, I think one of the key moments as 1 hour and 20 mins in where he talks about the US Dollar and the Chinese Yuan.
This part and the entire interview seemed to be directed to the US Voters. Specifically, towards conservatives and independents, Trumps main electorate.
I would suggest that Putin is well aware how the Nazis are perceived in the West - that they are considered the most evil regime ever. He realises that it will be western audiences that will be viewing this interview and therefore he's attempting to justify the conflict and demonise his adversaries in a way that he feels will be well received by the audience.
It's interesting he said that, because he also mentioned patriotism, the Russian soul, Orthodoxy, an anecdote about how Hungarians living in Ukraine had retained their culture, and of course talked about Russian history in detail. I didn't get the impression he was a globalist. One could argue he was talking about trade, good relations with other countries, etc.
Am I the only one who heard Putins jab about Tucker trying to join the CIA, while he smirked?
I just assumed that was a joke! Has Tucker previously revealed that perhaps in a biography?
Edit: There's a transcript of a portion of the interview at this link: https://stateofthenation.co/?p=209590
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Just like with Gonzalo Lira. (RIP)
The truth shall prevail though.
As to the interview; waste of space, what didn't we already know.
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