Something I heard on a podcast recently was "if you're not hungry enough to eat a steak you're probably not hungry, just bored"Carbs are famine food
Maybe you could enlighten us a bit more on this.But when you eat pasta, bread, pizza, etc. the issue is the processed ingredients/chemical/preservatives.
I also like to have it around. Have the odd hot chocolate and add it to natural yogurt for flavour. Unfortunately it is not free of calories like black coffee so can't have it while fasting. Have also used it with protein powder. My current protein powder is unsweetened, flavourless whey but actually pleasant enough just on its own.cocoa powder
Since my last 5 day fast, I have been furiously reading diet material. It made me a fair bit lighter and I am still lighter but it also made me sick which made me angry. Just a keto flu thing which got worse. Going away now thankfully. I can't fast while sick, tried but it's demoralising.Carnivore is it. I know I've been pushing this in other threads, but it's real. Boost your T, lose visceral fat, feel great. Carbs are famine food.
The technically minded might know about the concept of signals mixing, adding together sine waves or other time series. The main signals mixing are your water content and fat content. Once you have been watching this for a while you become not so freaked out by a lack of drop in weight after a dieting period and not so excited about a sudden low reading on the scale. You come to know which reading reflect water or fat. Anyway it is great to have an accurate scale, not having a 3rd signal being the inaccuracy of the scale, that really messes with your mind.When you weigh yourself, the things which fluctuate over time periods of days or weeks may be fat, muscle and water.
I don't know about USA but in Australia the non-chain gelato shops owned by Italians usually have real ice-cream, its not cheap though. Of course its still highish in calories (nothing crazy like 2600 calroies though) but its generally made from proper ingredients.Absolutely. This type of thing is exactly what I was referring to, and what I'm trying to say is that I think neither the "ice cream" I can get at my workplace cafeteria, or this Oreo shake, are actually real ice cream at all. I don't think milk was involved at any point in the process of making them. It's just corn syrup and shady test tube ingredients, and it just looks like ice cream. Same thing as Oreos, they look like cookies, but they are not, as they contain none of the ingredients that your local baker would use when making real cookies.
Also, I think the "crustaceans" bit in the image you shared might mean that they used bugs to make it. Bugs and crustaceans are very similar creatures anatomically, and probably if you're allergic to one then you're allergic to the other also, so when disclosing allergy information, they'd probably have to check the "crustaceans" box if it contained bugs.
Sounds like your current diet has the right macronutrient ratios. That's great, man!
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Also be sure to get good sleep. Sleep is crucial for weight loss, strength, endurance, preventing dementia, basically all aspects of overall health.If you want to lose weight without effort, eat a very large breakfast, a moderate lunch, and a very small snack for dinner.
General rules of thumb. Eat a gram of protein per pound of lean body mass. Less is required if you don't lift or do anything strenuous. Use only animal fats, olive or coconut oil to cook with.
This is assuming that you have a normal sleeping schedule. Frontloading calories works because of how your hormones fluctuate throughout the day ie you are much more likely to overeat and pile on the fat if you eat a large dinner at night. So if you're a night shifter, you are ice skating uphill.
Since my last 5 day fast, I have been furiously reading diet material. It made me a fair bit lighter and I am still lighter but it also made me sick which made me angry. Just a keto flu thing which got worse. Going away now thankfully. I can't fast while sick, tried but it's demoralising.
Was reading this rather rebellious site to see what you were on about :
I like it how he is a bit anti-chicken and anti-egg. I do eat eggs, make omelets etc but avoid chicken, I really don't like it. Can't see myself starting on beef liver like that, even though there is a video out there of Snake Diet's Cole Robinson eating it raw. On rare occasion I eat fish liver out of a tin but that is also a challenge. Also can't see myself entirely avoiding vegetables but there is good reason to avoid fruit while trying to lose weight. Have had to add citrus back in for the vitamin C. But overall, there are some other good points there, namely that avoiding many of the other things that that carnivore diet involves keeps you away from sugar, additives and seed oils that disturb your system somewhat. Also his suspicion that sugar is worse than red meat for the heart.
Definitely though I want to up my meat consumption. It had dwindled down to one steak a week.
We have a Crusade on meat thread but there is no steak thread or general pro-meat thread to discuss the carnivore diet or meat recipes (yet).
When I was a kid living at home there was plenty of meat throughout the week, also with ex-girlfriends but left to my own devices and forbidding myself fast-food it somehow just dwindled and I need to deliberately up it.
That enormous vegetable soup I cooked and ate to break the fast was miserable in retrospect even if it did contain quality beef stock. Next time I have to break a long fast will be maybe something similar but with a small quantity of small pieces of actual red meat.
I do know some slimming meat dishes you can make in a casserole dish basically meat and cabbage oriented, but then some others that are probably the opposite of slimming such as lamb or beef curry and rice.
So I had 2 steaks in 2 days, today's one was home made, 400 grams, clearly not as enjoyable as the one made by a chef but still good. They know the tricks.
People in these diet threads talk about ground beef which I call mince beef but if you are going to eat that as spaghetti bolognese it will not be diet food anymore. Lasagne even worse, save that for when I'm lighter one day. Also, putting it into taco shells is also going to kill the diet aspect of it. Maybe you could eat it out of lettuce leaves. Not sure what you guys are doing with your ground beef to consume it in a reasonable way while on a weight loss program. I suppose there's meat balls. It never occurs to me to cook that, and I know I'd be drowning them in all manner of exotic sauces. I have had that many misadventures with the scales that I am too scared now to eat it in hamburger form at the moment because of the buns, delicious as it can be with pickles etc.
I'm trying to keep myself away from tins of tuna or other fish - it was okay as a teenager for protein after the gym but should be able to do better now. Always feels a bit like cat food these days.
I did cook sausages once in the last weeks but that was not so wonderful and even that carnivore website discourages that due to nitrates and additives.
I've decided not to buy cheese anymore for now. I know I upset someone in another thread but it is no use for weight loss purposes and I'm not a big fan anyway.
What next though, game meat or goat? It can't just be steak all the time. I will have to get creative. Lamb is probably too high in fat for weight loss aims.
Anyone on here take the bread pill?
It's the way bread fits into our society now, it's just too ubiquitous.Why is bread so hated? It’s been fueling humanity for 10,000 years and now it’s supposed to be bad?
One of the reasons why I haven't gone back to carnivore is that I got into baking artisan style breads.Anyone on here take the bread pill?
With things like carnivore and all that fun stuff floating around bread is often maligned. I notice I lose weight when I don’t drink and eat a balanced diet that includes bread like sourdough and wheat as well as grains like barley.
Why is bread so hated? It’s been fueling humanity for 10,000 years and now it’s supposed to be bad? I’ve never seen anyone get fat on bread and beans. It’s always snacky foods that make people fat. Bread and beans is old school fuel. Tastes good, and if you add a veggie with it you’re good to go. Or am I wrong? would I lose weight quicker if I go carnivore. I’m thinking about trying that after Easter.
In Europe they still make bread, and it's good.Anyone on here take the bread pill?
With things like carnivore and all that fun stuff floating around bread is often maligned. I notice I lose weight when I don’t drink and eat a balanced diet that includes bread like sourdough and wheat as well as grains like barley.
Why is bread so hated? It’s been fueling humanity for 10,000 years and now it’s supposed to be bad? I’ve never seen anyone get fat on bread and beans. It’s always snacky foods that make people fat. Bread and beans is old school fuel. Tastes good, and if you add a veggie with it you’re good to go. Or am I wrong? would I lose weight quicker if I go carnivore. I’m thinking about trying that after Easter.
Agriculture was never primarily about health. It was about increasing food supply and food security to fuel population growth. That is why farming societies replaced hunter gatherer societies because they outpopulated them. However if you look at anthropological evidence when agriculture was introduced into human society average height shrunk and the "diseases of civilization" began to proliferate.Anyone on here take the bread pill?
With things like carnivore and all that fun stuff floating around bread is often maligned. I notice I lose weight when I don’t drink and eat a balanced diet that includes bread like sourdough and wheat as well as grains like barley.
Why is bread so hated? It’s been fueling humanity for 10,000 years and now it’s supposed to be bad? I’ve never seen anyone get fat on bread and beans. It’s always snacky foods that make people fat. Bread and beans is old school fuel. Tastes good, and if you add a veggie with it you’re good to go. Or am I wrong? would I lose weight quicker if I go carnivore. I’m thinking about trying that after Easter.
So tortillas for carbs? Those are made from nixtamalized corn flour called masa. And given my location on the earth I could easily do that myself if it comes to it.Agriculture was never primarily about health. It was about increasing food supply and food security to fuel population growth. That is why farming societies replaced hunter gatherer societies because they outpopulated them. However if you look at anthropological evidence when agriculture was introduced into human society average height shrunk and the "diseases of civilization" began to proliferate.
All of that being said traditional grain and corn, dairy, etc products were designed in a way to neutralise some of the anti-nutrients naturally found in the product itself. Traditional sourdough bread is properly fermented and has different properties to garbage bread eaten in Western societies. For example the Aztecs nixtamalized their corn:
"Aztec advances (9): nixtamalization of corn Soaking corn in lye made from wood ashes or in a slaked lime solution (both of which are alkaline) removed the hulls and made the corn more easily ground. It also made the protein and niacin contained in corn more readily absorbed by the body".
And for example many central asian and middle eastern countries traditionally drank fermented yoghurt drinks as opposed to drinking milk. The fermentation makes it more gut friendly and less inflammatory for the average person.
One of my local pizza shops which makes delcious pizza is owned by Italians. They ferment/proof their dough on all of their pizzas for 72 hours. That pretty much destroys the gluten. Although they only produce soft style pizzas rather than crispy (bread won't be crispy if its fermented that long).
Therefore modern bread, corn, dairy etc for all the reasons noted above is a lot more inflamtory than the way it as traditionally produced and consumed, That's why in the modern world its just easier for people to just move to meat and vegetables to improve their health (or even carnivore),
Also traditional cuisnes produced meals that were designed to be balanced with certain things counteracting the negative affects of other items. For example Iranians tradtionally having pickled and fermented side dishes and fresh herbs with their kebabs and other cooked meats to counteract the greasiness of the meat and the carcinogenic effects of heavily cooking your meat, etc. Using sumac to spice the meat (helps with cholesterol), etc Many middle eastern countries having cinnamon in their tea that they eat with sweets as the cinnamon helps counteract the negative effects of sugar spikes from sweets. Chinese having green tea after heavy meals to help digestion, etc.
Tradtional meals were carefully thought out and evolved over long periods of time and were designed as a balanced food system. A lot of factors went into it. Seasonal and available produce was a factor, longevity/perishability, taste, health, etc were all considered. Modern food doesn't have a coherent system.