The Vivek Ramaswamy Thread

After getting destroyed in the H-1B visa discussion, Vivek has exited the conversation. A real man would apologize, admit he is wrong, and change his talking points. He isn't a real man, he is a pawn for the satanic elite, and they will do with him, what they do with all their puppets. Hide him out for a few years, then bring him back with the very same talking points, all upgraded with recent events to make it sound like that his talking points are now valid.

It will not work this time, White people have been pushed way too far. I don't know where this ends, but as long as people are so willing and happy to sell out to the satanic elite, it will not end well for any of us.

 
I always said it would be the Indian people that would make White people racially conscious again. It is happening, I wonder if Vivek and the other Indians who demand we bring more of their people here are intelligent enough to not poke the 800 pound gorilla. I doubt they are, which is why I believe they will cause Whites to become racially conscious again.

 
Really surprised Vivek dropped out of the new administration a few days before Trump took office, and now is running for governor of Ohio instead of being head of DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency) together with Musk.

Wonder if he was quietly told to leave, or the pressure after the H1B visas row was too much for him ??


Politico says he was pushed out by Musk and Trump, but they are a terrible source for accurate news:

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Caduceus said:
Really surprised Vivek dropped out of the new administration a few days before Trump took office, and now is running for governor of Ohio instead of being head of DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency) together with Musk.

Wonder if he was quietly told to leave, or the pressure after the H1B visas row was too much for him ??


Politico says he was pushed out by Musk and Trump, but they are a terrible source for accurate news:

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Vivek came out of hiding and he's shown his true colors for his pro-immigration stance.








 
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“Colorblind meritocracy” is a myth in multi-ethnic, multicultural societies. In-group preferences inevitably override merit, as people naturally favor those like themselves.

Indians and Jews are two perfect examples of how "colorblind meritocracy" fails in multi-ethnic societies. Both groups have achieved significant success, often attributed to merit. However in reality their success is deeply tied to strong in-group preference and nepotism—not just individual talent.
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I kind of sympathize with what Vivek is saying. We got a lot of mediocre necks in America with zero ambition who scream for welfare. But remember kids, the working conditions in those cultures are atrocious. Yes, we like jocks and don’t have tiger moms but a bit of sport is good for the body and soul. Besides, I would like a day or two off for my artistic pursuits and keep my house clean so I don’t have to live like the third world. If we slip just a little bit behind Asia in technology and engineering to avoid things like dog eat dog competition and karoshi, WORTH IT
 
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Torba is completely correct.

That is why federal policy abolishing DEI is not enough. Things need to happen on the ground. Example, if you are hiring manager only hire other Christian whites. I used to think this would be wrong, but the other groups discriminate against us, so you have to turn the tables. Countless times I’ve seen near 100% Asian or Indian teams and nobody bats an eye.
 
KulturedKaveman said:
I kind of sympathize with what Vivek is saying. We got a lot of mediocre necks in America with zero ambition who scream for welfare. But remember kids, the working conditions in those cultures are atrocious. Yes, we like jocks and don’t have tiger moms but a bit of sport is good for the body and soul. Besides, I would like a day or two off for my artistic pursuits and keep my house clean so I don’t have to live like the third world. If we slip just a little bit behind Asia in technology and engineering to avoid things like dog eat dog competition and karoshi, WORTH IT
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We will never fall behind Asia if we revert back to 1950's demographics and social norms. Having down time to play sports and study art and history is exactly why Europeans won the battle of who could build a better civilization. Without creativity, without wonder, without downtime, you do not create or invent. And Asians don't do this, so they are constantly just pounding on the wall and getting nowhere, instead of taking a few steps back and realizing there is an open doorway just to the side of the wall. Even when I tell them this, they just can't grasp it, they seem programmed to think making their lives miserable will somehow make things better.

That is what the H-1B visa guys like Vivek can never understand. They are not us, so they cannot understand us. The only reason China has caught up is that...

#1) Israel sold them our technology.

#2) We are busy babysitting 80 IQ third worlders and pretending they are capable instead of managing to keep their numbers within a reasonable range and focusing on capturing the stars.

But, if the west continues down the path of replacing Europeans with third worlders, no matter how hard we work, the Asians will pass us up so far that they can come conquer this valuable and fertile land.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
We will never fall behind Asia if we revert back to 1950's demographics and social norms. Having down time to play sports and study art and history is exactly why Europeans won the battle of who could build a better civilization. Without creativity, without wonder, without downtime, you do not create or invent.
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Europeans had necessity as the mother of invention. Asian societies worked great since the Middle Ages so why change? Europe had some serious upsets in the Middle Ages that put them on the path to dominance. Europe won the game in 1900 but they gave it up cos they got sad and America is now the cultural and technological hegemon. Now we gave it up because we would rather have feminism and diversity. The post America world is coming and that will hilariously take care of the DEI and feminism.

The best way to put it is the US would become Europe to Asias US. The US is on the cutting edge of tech and science while Europe has vacation time, doesn’t fleece its people, and generally puts EU citizens first. They’re not the cutting edge but it’s not like we’re sitting here going “Lmao look at those primitive Europeans!” They’re only a little behind because they aren’t interested in enslaving their own people with a debt based system and providing nothing for it. They have a pay a lot get a lot set up.
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That is what the H-1B visa guys like Vivek can never understand. They are not us, so they cannot understand us. The only reason China has caught up is that...

#1) Israel sold them our technology.

#2) We are busy babysitting 80 IQ third worlders and pretending they are capable instead of managing to keep their numbers within a reasonable range and focusing on capturing the stars.

But, if the west continues down the path of replacing Europeans with third worlders, no matter how hard we work, the Asians will pass us up so far that they can come conquer this valuable and fertile land.
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Don’t have to babysit if you can’t afford to anymore. A post American hegemony America will be much poorer and DEI will be an after thought. Stuff will have to work to put food on the table. In a scenario where we’re only a little bit behind, an invasion is dumb. A US VS Europe war would be suicidally retarded. We’ve already done it twice and the destruction was downright apocalyptic.
 
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KulturedKaveman said:
Europeans had necessity as the mother of invention. Asian societies worked great since the Middle Ages so why change? Europe had some serious upsets in the Middle Ages that put them on the path to dominance. Europe won the game in 1900 but they gave it up cos they got sad and America is now the cultural and technological hegemon.

The best way to put it is the US would become Europe to Asias US. The US is on the cutting edge of tech and science while Europe has vacation time, doesn’t fleece its people, and generally puts EU citizens first. They’re not the cutting edge but it’s not like we’re sitting here going “Lmao look at those primitive Europeans!” They’re only a little behind because they aren’t interested in enslaving their own people with a debt based system and providing nothing for it. They have a pay a lot get a lot set up.

Perhaps, but in a scenario where we’re only a little bit behind, an invasion is dumb. A US VS Europe war would be suicidally retarded. We’ve already done it twice and the destruction was downright apocalyptic.
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Agreed with them not invading if we are only a little behind, you are correct. It would be a massive waste of resources and good men, huge risk, for maybe no reward. My point was that if we were just a majority White country, with free time, we would be more advanced than the Asia countries. They would not be far behind us, because they are damn good as well, and it would be a peaceful stalemate.

The big change is Europe went through the renaissance and Asia did not, so Europe speed up greatly in creation and invention during this period. Now Europe and Europeans are dying out, so that might be the end of the west.

Without Europeans, the west will fall greatly behind Asia and over time the distance will be a very large gap in the two societies.
 
On a side note, how are you finding the quality of white workers in your area when it comes to doing things on your home? I find generally 30-50% of the quality and work ethic is atrocious. A little bit of whining when you point out obvious flaws or lack of quality. Some no showing. In contrast, had a company do some work on my home that had some Hispanic workers. These guys working outside in 20 degree weather, amazing quality, busting their a when things didn't go as planned.
I've mentioned this before, gone are the days of finding the "middle estimate" and receiving quality. You have to pay the most to receive an expected outcome. Just an observation and I'm sure this can vary some based on the project.
 
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On a side note, how are you finding the quality of white workers in your area when it comes to doing things on your home? I find generally 30-50% of the quality and work ethic is atrocious. A little bit of whining when you point out obvious flaws or lack of quality. Some no showing. In contrast, had a company do some work on my home that had some Hispanic workers. These guys working outside in 20 degree weather, amazing quality, busting their a when things didn't go as planned.
I've mentioned this before, gone are the days of finding the "middle estimate" and receiving quality. You have to pay the most to receive an expected outcome. Just an observation and I'm sure this can vary some based on the project.
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Truth is the US slipping into an oligarchy with the rise of neoliberalism nuked white Americas work ethic. People just don’t work hard when hard work doesn’t pay. If it paid, you’d see an instant turn around. Problem is, a lot of these H1B types watch too much TV and still believe the American Dream. They haven’t been disillusioned yet and that’s why companies love them.
 
KulturedKaveman said:
Truth is the US slipping into an oligarchy with the rise of neoliberalism nuked white Americas work ethic. People just don’t work hard when hard work doesn’t pay. If it paid, you’d see an instant turn around. Problem is, a lot of these H1B types watch too much TV and still believe the American Dream. They haven’t been disillusioned yet and that’s why companies love them.
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Yeah. A lot of whites also get disillusioned because you can work your butt off and do laps around the H1Bs etc, but the promotions will usually be given to a female or another DEI hire.

So what happens is most just do the bare minimum and never go above and beyond. Ratings don’t matter much either as your bonuses aren’t tied that much to them so a few tenths of a point doesn’t matter.

A lot of foreigners are green and naive and think if they just work hard they can become the next Elon Musk etc. I’ve heard them complain that they are working hard but never get promoted. After a few years they realize it was all a lie.

Now I’m not saying that you shouldn’t work hard, but above a certain level, it’s extremely difficult to get the big salaried corporate VP+ jobs as in making 300k a year or more. If you didn’t go to an Ivy League school or have some high level connection that will pull you
up, it’s almost impossible no matter how hard you work.

That’s why people just negotiate as much as they can, keep their bosses happy, and work just enough to do a decent/good job and not be fired.
 
Yeah, this is a tough one and quite honestly, I'm pretty surprised (but actually in a good way) that he got hammered so much for it, because being someone who is liked generally, they could have easily just said he was making a call for "hard work."

Why did he "burn Elon" though? He pointed out what all the Silicon Valley guys were really doing or trying to do? lol
 
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