The Success / Destruction of Modern Men

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Surprised there is no thread on this yet considering how popular the other one is.

For every onlyfans girl there are thousands of male subscribers. For every girl willing to shoot a porn there are thousands of male volunteers. Why is it that we focus so many arrows on women but we dont do the same for men. The destruction of women is only one side of the coin.

Its good men and women VS terrible men and women. Its not just an issue of one sex. If we continue to only focus on womens faults it will just turn into male feminism. Which it looks like the redpill manosphere has already become. Maybe the destruction of women thread should be amended to include positive examples of women also.

I hope this thread will not only be about rage bait bashing on weak men but also about warnings and cautionary tales of the traps modern society lays for men and how men fall for them or examples of men who succesfully overcame them.

I made a comment earlier that not everything on social media is real, about an article on this girl plans to sleep with a thousand men in a day. Unfortunately after seeing this i do think it is real. there are a HUNDRED MEN supposedly who participated in this. None of these men stopped in the middle and had a moment of clarity and objected to the situation ?. Just blame the porn star right for being a hoe.

 
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She looks completely dead inside. But the lure of internet "fame" is too powerful and she'll forget her misery quickly.
As for men behaving badly? Absolutely they do. Weak simp "men" who allow this to happen or participate in it are equally if not more at fault. Men should be leading women and society, not grovelling and debasing themselves at the feet of wh0rish women.
 
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ginsu said:
Surprised there is no thread on this yet considering how popular the other one is.

For every onlyfans girl there are thousands of male subscribers. For every girl willing to shoot a porn there are thousands of male volunteers. Why is it that we focus so many arrows on women but we dont do the same for men. The destruction of women is only one side of the coin.

Its good men and women VS terrible men and women. Its not just an issue of one sex. If we continue to only focus on womens faults it will just turn into male feminism. Which it looks like the redpill manosphere has already become. Maybe the destruction of women thread should be amended to include positive examples of women also.

I hope this thread will not only be about rage bait bashing on weak men but also about warnings and cautionary tales of the traps modern society lays for men and how men fall for them or examples of men who succesfully overcame them.

I made a comment earlier that not everything on social media is real, about an article on this girl plans to sleep with a thousand men in a day. Unfortunately after seeing this i do think it is real. there are a HUNDRED MEN supposedly who participated in this. None of these men stopped in the middle and had a moment of clarity and objected to the situation ?. Just blame the porn star right for being a hoe.

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She says she feels like a prostitute. Yes, that is what you are.
 
ginsu said:
Surprised there is no thread on this yet considering how popular the other one is.

For every onlyfans girl there are thousands of male subscribers. For every girl willing to shoot a porn there are thousands of male volunteers. Why is it that we focus so many arrows on women but we dont do the same for men. The destruction of women is only one side of the coin.

Its good men and women VS terrible men and women. Its not just an issue of one sex. If we continue to only focus on womens faults it will just turn into male feminism. Which it looks like the redpill manosphere has already become. Maybe the destruction of women thread should be amended to include positive examples of women also.

I hope this thread will not only be about rage bait bashing on weak men but also about warnings and cautionary tales of the traps modern society lays for men and how men fall for them or examples of men who succesfully overcame them.

I made a comment earlier that not everything on social media is real, about an article on this girl plans to sleep with a thousand men in a day. Unfortunately after seeing this i do think it is real. there are a HUNDRED MEN supposedly who participated in this. None of these men stopped in the middle and had a moment of clarity and objected to the situation ?. Just blame the porn star right for being a hoe.

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This shoudln´t be allowed to happen.
 
Good thread. I've been telling my friends out here in SoCal (one of the most sexually degenerate places in the US) that as men, the only way to stop the destruction of women is by the following: Instead of being attracted to every thot on the street, become attractive. Become the best at whatever you do. Be great at networking. Be great at building rapports with people. Be great in social settings. Be that man that everybody looks up to. Because women desire these types of successful men. Then, STOP giving your attention to thots. A valuable man's attention span is his most valuable asset. So stop spending it on hoe's.

Guess what will happen if the most valuable men in every community scorn the thots and hoes instead of sipping for them and trying to reap the benefits by sleeping with them while never intending to marry them. The thots will alter their behavior.

To summarize: Men, don't be part of the destruction. 1) Put all your energies into being the best you can at everything you do. 2) Give no attention whatsoever to hoe's 3) Scorn and socially shun women who act unbecomingly

This will fix things real quick
 
Men today are incredibly weak, have zero faith, and only care about enriching themselves. They will happily stab someone in the back for gain.

This is especially true in the halls of power, corporate or .gov, the men there are the absolute worst traitors to their country.

Of course there are exceptions, but they aren't the rule. Overall, men need to stop worrying about women, and start worrying about men. Men are the stronger sex and if men are fixed then women will be forced to comply as well.

I wrote an article on Return of Kings about this back in the day.
 
This video clip is also one of those moments, (like in the other video that was posted on the forum somewhere recently where the guy asks if her man is happy) where you get a momentary glimpse into the destroyed soul of this woman, who knows she's just broken herself by sleeping with 100 guys in a day.

You don't see the true nature of women often but these two clips lately have really shocked me somehow.

I saw this once in psychologists office when I was with my wife and the female psych. I dropped a comment that seemed to scramble their brains somehow. It was almost as if I had seen behind the curtain and I saw something I wasn't supposed to know.
 
ThinTern said:
Good thread. I've been telling my friends out here in SoCal (one of the most sexually degenerate places in the US) that as men, the only way to stop the destruction of women is by the following: Instead of being attracted to every thot on the street, become attractive. Become the best at whatever you do. Be great at networking. Be great at building rapports with people. Be great in social settings. Be that man that everybody looks up to. Because women desire these types of successful men. Then, STOP giving your attention to thots. A valuable man's attention span is his most valuable asset. So stop spending it on hoe's.

Guess what will happen if the most valuable men in every community scorn the thots and hoes instead of sipping for them and trying to reap the benefits by sleeping with them while never intending to marry them. The thots will alter their behavior.

To summarize: Men, don't be part of the destruction. 1) Put all your energies into being the best you can at everything you do. 2) Give no attention whatsoever to hoe's 3) Scorn and socially shun women who act unbecomingly

This will fix things real quick
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It won’t.

This sounds great in theory, but for every few guys that follows this, there are way more who won’t and will just give in to their urges and have sex with thots. This is even more true today because the amount of attractive good religious women are low in number.

There has never been a solution to this throughout history and there won’t be now, especially with widespread porn and more promiscuous women.

Note that I don’t disagree with you or your post at all, it comes from the right place but it’s not going to happen because it requires self control and intelligence.

Keep in mind that around 15% of the population including men have an IQ less than 85.

They aren’t thinking and are just relying on base instincts, like girl look good I want sex.
 
Josephus said:
It won’t.

This sounds great in theory, but for every few guys that follows this, there are way more who won’t and will just give in to their urges and have sex with thots. This is even more true today because the amount of attractive good religious women are low in number.

There has never been a solution to this throughout history and there won’t be now, especially with widespread porn and more promiscuous women.

Note that I don’t disagree with you or your post at all, it comes from the right place but it’s not going to happen because it requires self control and intelligence.

Keep in mind that around 15% of the population including men have an IQ less than 85.

They aren’t thinking and are just relying on base instincts, like girl look good I want sex.
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Also don't forget that many of the darker-skinned fellows will usually jump in bed with any woman, no matter how fat, how ugly, or how terrible a personality she has. They have no standards. I see it in Europe all the time. Terrible catch women getting knocked up by random Africans. When even the 1s, 2s, and 3s are getting action, a man with high standards has VERY few options for finding a good wife.
 
Let God Arise said:
Also don't forget that many of the darker-skinned fellows will usually jump in bed with any woman, no matter how fat, how ugly, or how terrible a personality she has. They have no standards. I see it in Europe all the time. Terrible catch women getting knocked up by random Africans. When even the 1s, 2s, and 3s are getting action, a man with high standards has VERY few options for finding a good wife.
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Yes, you literally see that stereotype everywhere.
 
It seems like men who try to succeed in the system without family connections are setting themselves up for failure in life. In order to even begin to work outside the system, by creating loads of value for themselves, men have to eliminate activities that are overstimulating. In my own life I've been a lot more productive because I shut down the last little thing that was overstimulating me: reddit. It was tempting to troll liberals on their own turf. I got sick of it and stopped my usage then had a few days of withdrawal where I was bored out of my mind. Once I came out of it I felt like I had been cured of ADHD. I was able to focus again and I've been reading books on chemistry, physics, and programming. I've been able to apply myself better at business and work a side hustle. This year I was on top of getting Christmas decorations up. I also replaced the lower ball joints on my car (pickle fork for the win). I was able to be productive without feeling bored by it. In the past, because I was constantly overstimulated I couldn't wait to be done with stuff so I could get back to my stimulant.

I think it would help guys if they could get away from stuff that overstimulates them. Twitter/X is too mentally stimulating and so is other social media. Guys have to stop being chronically online. Sadly, I don't think they can play video games either if they can't handle the level of stimulation. Porn is an obvious no-go. Binge-watching TV is clearly out. They have to learn to no longer despise work and be willing to put the work in, chiefly on themselves, so they can learn skills, become valuable, and become self-sufficient or run their own business. At some point during all of that a woman might come along, and I think the guy will have a better chance with her if he's self-confident because of his work and success.

Guys have it a lot harder these days if they think they'll have it easy and be able to find success in the system. But even if they seek success in the system (typical career stuff) they'll stand a better chance if they can become willing to put in the work and not harm themselves with addictive modern stimulants. I think a lot of guys get used to the hedonistic lifestyle of chasing entertainment and pleasure (I know I did, I avoided work as much as possible and have probably had more time off than 95% of people my age) and turn their nose up at boring and dull work. If they can turn it around I think they'll find joy in all of the new things you unlock in life when you become someone who gets stuff done, because even relationships take a lot of work.
 
Josephus said:
It won’t.

This sounds great in theory, but for every few guys that follows this, there are way more who won’t and will just give in to their urges and have sex with thots. This is even more true today because the amount of attractive good religious women are low in number.

There has never been a solution to this throughout history and there won’t be now, especially with widespread porn and more promiscuous women.

Note that I don’t disagree with you or your post at all, it comes from the right place but it’s not going to happen because it requires self control and intelligence.

Keep in mind that around 15% of the population including men have an IQ less than 85.

They aren’t thinking and are just relying on base instincts, like girl look good I want sex.
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So what are you proposing? Wallow in the filth of modern society like many others? You can lead a horse to fresh water but you can't make it drink. People are encouraged by the good behaviour of others. The better the behaviour of each person, the more society grows instead of decays. It's why society doesn't instantly become a cesspool, nor does it instantly get better, it's a gradual process.

There is never a solution that will automatically fix all people, because everyone has the choice to use or abuse their body and soul in whichever way they see fit. So if people want to act like animals, they'll do it, but if you love the people around you, and they see your good example, and they have your trust, you can gently show them what their behaviour is, but, if they don't even have the framework to understand their behaviour, and they don't see any good examples. Who can blame them in a sick world that encourages people to indulge all their baser impulses?
 
Aboulia said:
So what are you proposing? Wallow in the filth of modern society like many others?
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Your reading comprehension is really poor isn’t it?

Aboulia said:
You can lead a horse to fresh water but you can't make it drink. People are encouraged by the good behaviour of others. The better the behaviour of each person, the more society grows instead of decays. It's why society doesn't instantly become a cesspool, nor does it instantly get better, it's a gradual process.

There is never a solution that will automatically fix all people, because everyone has the choice to use or abuse their body and soul in whichever way they see fit. So if people want to act like animals, they'll do it, but if you love the people around you, and they see your good example, and they have your trust, you can gently show them what their behaviour is, but, if they don't even have the framework to understand their behaviour, and they don't see any good examples. Who can blame them in a sick world that encourages people to indulge all their baser impulses?
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His post outlined things that men have been speaking about for decades and sounded like a self improvement post. Then he ended it with: this will fix things real quick. I said it won’t.

I even I said I agree with it, then stated it would probably only work for the minority. Your assumptions are totally off base.
 
Josephus said:
Your reading comprehension is really poor isn’t it?

His post outlined things that men have been speaking about for decades and sounded like a self improvement post. Then he ended it with: this will fix things real quick. I said it won’t.

I even I said I agree with it, then stated it would probably only work for the minority. Your assumptions are totally off base.
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Almost as poor as your attitude.

If men had been speaking about the sorts of things he was talking about for decades, then I completely missed it while growing up. It's something that's absent in the mindless secular culture.
 
Let God Arise said:
She looks completely dead inside. But the lure of internet "fame" is too powerful and she'll forget her misery quickly.
As for men behaving badly? Absolutely they do. Weak simp "men" who allow this to happen or participate in it are equally if not more at fault. Men should be leading women and society, not grovelling and debasing themselves at the feet of wh0rish women.
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I'm sure many fools will surround her and convince her it's not that bad but i'm not sure she'll ever forget something so serious. Her soul is clearly damaged by partaking in a horrible act of sin. Clear to see she's dealing with a type of pity or sorrow for herself for what she has become, only after the fact, and maybe the deception that lead her down that path.

I hope she understands the purpose of that shame, for her own good.
 
The destruction of men ultimately comes down to the same thing that caused the destruction of women: the removal of God from society.

I don't hold any idyllic views about how things were in a Christian society. But the social cohesion brought about through a shared faith was enough to stop things falling apart.

In the past for example, if two teens fooled around and the girl got pregnant, as a general rule the guy would marry her. If he didn't there was a social stigma on them both. Maybe the guy could get away with it if he covered his tracks well enough but the woman certainly couldn't get away lightly for mothering a bastard. These days kids can fool around and forget about the consequences due to contraception and if a pregnancy does result then she can just get an abortion.

We live in a world where we are focused on debauchery free from responsibility. It wasn't even that long ago really when a man would be expected to marry a girl if he knocked her up.

Without God, something has to fill that void. Men like Andrew Tate fill it with themselves, simps fill it with women. In the former case the world just becomes a tool to serve one's own whims and desires. In the latter case everything revolves around worshipping women, trying to get their attention, doing things for them, hoping to get rewarded with sex for their worship.

People like Andrew Tate seem more put together because they have worldly success, but he's just as repugnant as a simp. Perhaps more so because simps usually are unsuccessful in getting even one girl, whereas Tate has harmed countless women in his quest of self service.

One major thing that we lack is awareness of death. We have sanitized it, we have removed a large amount of things that cause it. Both men and women live like they will live forever. Women think they will remain fertile and attractive indefinitely. Men think it's meaningful to pursue things that they cannot take with them when they die, or pursuing women whom they think won't get old and die. We just ignore death and seek to blot it out however we can, but no amount of Bugattis or OnlyFans subscriptions are going to remove the fact that we all die.
 
Let God Arise said:
Also don't forget that many of the darker-skinned fellows will usually jump in bed with any woman, no matter how fat, how ugly, or how terrible a personality she has. They have no standards. I see it in Europe all the time. Terrible catch women getting knocked up by random Africans. When even the 1s, 2s, and 3s are getting action, a man with high standards has VERY few options for finding a good wife.
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About getting action: this is the meaning of the "Carrying your cross daily". Even "good girls" have their set of problems. But don't give up hope. I was single for a long time. Marriage is worth it. I learned to love my wife, despite our differences and past failures.
 
thinkreadwritecode said:
They have to learn to no longer despise work
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This is key, and it's part of being saved from Adam's curse, can only be done through Christ.

I remember back when I was younger, I always thought I could make myself love any job. That's because I was working outside with my hands, and I was young and full of youthful spirit. Plus, I was tiring out my body while my mind was basically resting itself the whole time, just doing a basic job directing my hands, and once in a while making a reasoned decision. So my body was tired, but my mind stayed fresh and clear.

Later when I started to click and type at a desk for living, I realized it's not so easy. But I still have faith it can be done, and maintained. You described it in your own post -- those times when your subject opens up again like when you were first learning it, and you want to study and learn more, apply yourself to different areas, and work seems like a privilege again. That's the place to be.
 
Life is hard. We pick up our cross, and its not just picking it up for a bit and then putting it down and then everyone applauds and pats us on the back. We pick up our cross and we take it to Golgotha. No one escapes this.

I say this because it is easy to fall into the trap of "I need X to make everything ok" but that is not this world. A lot of men who are starting to repent and come into the church are struggling with the lack of good women, and frankly often their motivation is "I'll be okay just as long as I can have legal sex."

The fact of the matter is that we all need to repent for how we have abused God's sacred means for creating new life. But I am digressing slightly. My point is supposing we get the beautiful, good, Christian woman we seek, the cross is not going away. Marriage is a huge responsibility and it destroys a lot of people. And its not guaranteed that if we find someone who does meet our standards she will not ruin our life anyway.

I think the last few generations have been fed the secular/conusmerist myth of get the thing and then everything will be fine. The reality is that everything in this world is full of pain, suffering, disatisfaction, and disappointment. The only way out of that is Christ. I think we are in this position of not having any good women because we need to realise it. We need to realise that Christ is the exit for the pain we feel, not a woman, not marriage, not kids. Those things might be added to us, but they aren't going to save us.

That is not to say we should not try to find a woman, and do things conducive to that aim. But spiritually I think we need to accept that we might not get any of that, and we need to look in the mirror and ask ourselves if we are okay with that, and whether we can still bring ourselves to wholeheartedly worship Christ anyway. If the answer is no then we still have a lot of work to do.
 
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