Agreed, one realizes the only way for the European people to exist is to have their own countries and will fight for it, the other deep down doesn't care if the European people exist because they will never support a European homeland.
The J. D. Vance Thread
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My position is that Latinas who are mostly white are fine. Far more likely to be good wife material than any other sort of white woman, really. They speak a European language, are usually Christian, and unashamedly abhor transexuality and the rest of the LGBT stuff. Their culture values being the ama de casa...a housewife and a mother who's dedicated to taking care of her children and honoring her husband.
Then again, I'm biased because I'm also married to one, like Leonard.
JD Vance's kids have blue eyes. They are strong carriers of the White recessive genome and their kids will be White as long as they breed with anyone else who have those same genes. Most people have no idea how race mixing works. It's nothing to worry about, as long as it is done through marriage.
It's not that what you're saying is wrong, but the root of the issue is still simply the time, effort and luck it takes to find a white north American woman that you can start a family with, without the inevitable toxicity and divorce. Vance saw a chance to get married and never looked back. At the same time, he's actively working against the wokeism that caused this whole issue in the first place. He's also openly advocating for masculinity.
If given enough time, that will make finding a suitable partner easier for thousands and thousands of young men. Therefore, that's precisely what I'm judging Vance by. I'm pretty sure if Tracey, Salley, Chelsea, Becky etc. had treated Vance better, he would have chosen a white woman.
At the end of the day there are only two philosophies for the future of the west
1) White nationalism = a super majority White, in which the identity of its citizens is largely tied to this with a small minority class.
2) Wokism
There is nothing else. So, at the end of the day, JD Vance is wokism, he has to be, because the first option goes against his own children's well-being. I can't blame him for that, but I can say that God didn't intend for Whites to go extinct and the only way for that to be carried out is #1.
JD Vance and those of his stripe try this new slogan of "colorblind meritocracy", and what they really mean is "reset back to 1965" where everyone has equal rights. But this was already tried... in 1965, and we see the results of it. Asians steal military secrets and give it to their home nations. Indians destroy entire departments, commit massive govt. fraud, and attack Whites non-stop. Blacks think they should be allowed to roam free and commit "minor" crimes and be the first selected for any opportunity. Hispanics turn where ever they live into the same environment they left.
I am not upset about any of this, because I realize genetics, formed by thousands of years of evolution causes these things to happen. I am upset at someone who thinks Whites can continue to allow it to happen as their global percent of population goes from 35% in 1900 to 8% in 2025. Which means that a colorblind meritocracy is simply that Whites have no right to a homeland, which means Whites have no means to exist.
False dichotomy, with
with a false conclusion. You also contradict yourself. You just said in point #1 there will be room for a small minority class, so what does it matter if JD Vance marries a minority?
Of course, there is a wide range between White nationalism and "Wokism." For example, the modern White race was built on theocracy, for over 1000 years, but hey, don't let history get in the way of your narrow minded, ignorant, and childish ideology.
We already tried the colorblind meritocracy. And it wasn't in the USA, it was all across the west, Europe, Canada, South America, and the result is exactly the same everywhere. I think this is what is most amazing, to look at crime rates in London v. NYC v. Stockholm v. Toronto v Berlin and see the exact same numbers everywhere. Quite remarkable.
There is no range at all, you are either okay with Whites existing or you have a colorblind meritocracy, which means Whites will go extinct. And telling Whites to "just have kids" isn't a realistic fix, it just an excuse to not think about this serious issue in more depth, because at the end of the day Whites will not just have more kids, it isn't in their genetics to just spit out kids. And if someone says to this "okay, then Whites will just go extinct if they refuse to spit out kids" I would say "yes, that was my point, I agree".
Quite remarkable is your inability to read. Who said anything about a colorblind meritocracy? Try reading for comprehension instead of ideology.
No, that is a false dichotomy. If you cannot respond to people's posts here in good faith and accurately representing their posts, you will be banned from yet another thread.
I said THEOCRACY, read, stop trolling, or don't post here.
Theocracy is the furthest thing from wokism, and is also not a colorblind meritocracy.
Be very careful right now, my patience for you is extremely low. Post carefully, this is your only warning.
Of course you would disregard having kids....nothing but self enabling. Whatever you have to tell yourself....
Picking up right where you left off with no shame, like it never happened. Odd
DEI is not meritocracy. If meritocracy was colorblind europeans would always excel. Like they always did. There is no such thing as meritocracy in western countries. It´s actually a retardacy which we now live in. Rule of retards. The stupid are now designing bridges and planes. Incredible. DEI = Deficient Entitled Idiots.
Not that I disagree with you, but it will take less time to end the war in Ukraine than it will for most westerners to find a suitable western woman. That just puts into perspective how terrible the current dating market is.
It wasn't really meant to be for JD Vance. Could he have waited? Sure. Could he have married a 20 year older white woman like Macron did? Definitely. But, at the end of day, he is currently trying to make things easier for future generations. And that definitely isn't what wokeism stands for.
The Vice President is the product of the broken American family and single mother whoredom. As a result, he has no conception or appreciation of his ancestry. In other words, he has no filial piety. Absent a father and family to imbue that upon him, and in a culture that instilled the exact opposite values, that’s how he wound up with an Indian.
Vance says the country abandoned men, which is a half truth. The truth is the country abandoned men just like him, specifically, and targeted men like him. And he wound up becoming a product of the system as a consequence. He maintains the pretense of a connection to his “hillbilly” origins, the ol’ working class schtick, but in reality he’s abandoned his roots, his people. He’s self-selected out of their gene pool in favor of a foreign option. In blunt terms of “us and them,” he is not one of us. He has no in group preference and serves the interests of someone other than Americans. It just so happens that sometimes those interests incidentally overlap.
That’s why he has a best-selling autobiography. It’s why he could navigate the political system to become the Vice President. Because he’s not really an outsider or counterculture. He’s palatable.
I’m sure he’s a fine gentleman. He should not be considered a role model.
Most people don't choose their mate out of any sort of ideological reason. Even people who are pretty ideologically driven usually just let their primal desires take over when it comes to mate selection which not too uncommonly, leads them to choose someone that doesn't just merely not gel with their ideals but actually contradicts them. We're all aware of the leftist activist women that complains about white male privilege constantly but somehow still ends up swirling with them - think of AOC and Ilhan Omar as the prime examples. There's also the hardcore white nationalists that somehow manage to end up with Asian women which happens often enough that it's become a meme of some sort. I remember on the old Roosh forums it was pretty common for guys who were worried about white identity to still be making posts about looking for wives in Latin America and East Asia.
I'm pretty sure none of the guys here who are married went into their marriage thinking about filial piety (isn't that something associated with the exotic East Asian invaders?) and their gene pool or any sort of duty towards their race. If you did that, then perhaps you can offer yourself as a role model. Otherwise, you are pretty much on the same level as credibility as Vance.
I'm pretty sure none of the guys here who are married went into their marriage thinking about filial piety (isn't that something associated with the exotic East Asian invaders?) and their gene pool or any sort of duty towards their race. If you did that, then perhaps you can offer yourself as a role model. Otherwise, you are pretty much on the same level as credibility as Vance.
^ Short version ^: My dick brought me here.
That reasoning, or lack thereof, applies to flings. We’ve all been there. That’s when your brain goes “What are you thinking? You sure about this?” and the override goes “but I’m horny.”
But we’re talking about getting married. To an Indian. Like someone from India with an Indian family who smells like curry. A cow worshiping people.
It isn’t like he knocked her up. He had plenty of time to reason things through. It is not like you fell for some French chick and have to learn French and eat croissants for breakfast with her family. It’s an alien life form. It’s like a Husky banging a Pug.
And yes, normal, rational people who live in civilizations do consider filial piety in marriages. These civilizations were built on that, and that’s why ours is dead, because now we don’t have the structure to enforce that. It’s why men had to ask a father for their daughter’s hand in marriage. It’s why fathers and families sought out men for their daughters. It’s why they had courtship and escorts on “dates,” to ensure no one was making stupid decisions. All of that was part of the consideration of whether this man or woman met the standards of the family.
You can ask an Indian about it, I believe they still arrange their marriages over there. They seem to understand the concept.
I think this is an incredibly ugly characterization of a mans journey.
You should hold your judgement until you've had a day in those shoes.
Well in that case we can’t make any judgements at all can we?
He actually was set up in the marriage by their mutual Yale Law School professor so it's about as much of an arranged marriage as you can get in an American context. He had to go meet her family too and get their approval especially since they were from an upper caste Indian family who would have have a bit apprehensive about their daughter marrying who is a self-described Scotch Irish hillbilly. Basically he was doing all the things that you were lamenting isn't being done in American society anymore. He had to prove himself to her family.
While this was going on his mother was drugged out and had just started getting into heroin. Yet in your consideration he was the one dating down by marrying her because a white addict family bloodline is still > any Indian bloodline?
Yep they do understand the concept of screening a potential husband and making sure he is meeting some standards. Not bad for some curry smelling people. Surprised you would assign any sort of positive point to them since based on what you were writing before, Vance's wife being Indian instantly nullifies any sort of positive qualities she could have.
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Which brings us back to my original point. A man who has no roots, and chose an alien people in lieu of his own. In much the same way, he chose not to honor his father by adopting his actual last name after his mother finished abusing him by imposing upon him the names of her many subsequent suitors, and instead went with his grandma’s name. In a way, he’s the epitome of the multicultural white male; raised under the influence of women, lack of male role model, and culturally confused. He is the multicultural ideal, and ironically his existence is an achievement of the left through a century of efforts to destroy the American family.