The Hot-Holy Matrix
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How do we get him signed up to CIK?!
He absolutely nailed it. And in the process packed a lot of golden wisdom into a short 9 minutes.
This succinctly answers some common questions asked by young conservative men relating to chasing physical attractiveness vs personality characteristics and faith. There are always trade-offs.
My only critique would be that, in this age, "man's choice" may be exceedingly rare as well, contingent on your definition of a 7 or 8 in looks. Depending on your location, this may be better placed in the unicorn category.
Anyhow, I'll be listening to his other vids shortly. Some of his most popular clips among others look compelling:
Also, we need a Father Moses feat. @Samseau podcast collaboration asap.
The original for anyone who hasn't seen it:
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How do we get him signed up to CIK?!
He absolutely nailed it. And in the process packed a lot of golden wisdom into a short 9 minutes.
This succinctly answers some common questions asked by young conservative men relating to chasing physical attractiveness vs personality characteristics and faith. There are always trade-offs.
My only critique would be that, in this age, "man's choice" may be exceedingly rare as well, contingent on your definition of a 7 or 8 in looks. Depending on your location, this may be better placed in the unicorn category.
Anyhow, I'll be listening to his other vids shortly. Some of his most popular clips among others look compelling:
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Also, we need a Father Moses feat. @Samseau podcast collaboration asap.
The original for anyone who hasn't seen it:
He has great content for sure, but….one thing gave me pause.
If you go to the video underneath there was a link to a “life-coaching” link and I was curious so I clicked it.
He apparently charges $85/hr for life coaching. Lots of guys have these issues to work out, but is it even allowed for an Orthodox priest to charge for this type of service when it should be part of spiritual mentoring anyway? Also $85/hr?
Life coaching always struck me as a scam.
When it comes to members of their parish, Priests should not be charging for confessions or other Priestly services. However, it is expected that all members contribute financially to the Parish. If someone has money but never gives, it could be grounds to deny them Priestly services.
That said, his "life coaching" sounds like it's for strangers over the net, which is not part of his parish, and indeed, to coach strangers over the net takes away time from his main duty, which is his parish.
Thus, he probably charges $85 an hour because his Bishop wants him to. He's showing that time spent away from his parish isn't being wasted, he can make good money, and put it back towards his life or parish. Remember, if his Bishop decided Fr. Moses is wasting his time, he could order the entire YouTube channel to be shut down and that would be that.
This also does not include acts of charity, which are given to the poor. Life coaching is for the rich who want exclusive time.
I had encountered Fr. Moses's other videos earlier this month but did not finish them due to disagreements.
In the screenshot below, from a video titled "Priest Ranks Worst Addictions," I was watching until he ranked sex as "In The Lake of Fire" and porn as "Grip of the Devil." I disagreed and stopped watching.
However, since Samseau and other members vouched for him, I will look into the video posted at the top and his other content.
In the screenshot below, from a video titled "Priest Ranks Worst Addictions," I was watching until he ranked sex as "In The Lake of Fire" and porn as "Grip of the Devil." I disagreed and stopped watching.
However, since Samseau and other members vouched for him, I will look into the video posted at the top and his other content.
Most sex is extremely addicting and leads people into extremely harmful habits such as whoremongering, or adultery. That's why the dating game is a zero-sum game you play with your soul.
Also, even if we say it's not "Lake of Fire," where else would you put it? It's that or Grip of the Devil. I tend to think porn is worse than casual sex, because you're lusting after whores, vs sex with regular women, however, this is just hair splitting. Who cares which one is really worse? Both are seriously bad.
"Orthobros are creepy"... I knew we'd see this soon enough.
Many priests can't survive on a priests salary. Many have side gigs to supplement their income.
Although I agree that extramarital sex is bad, sex should be classified as "Playing with Fire" and porn as "Loserville."
Look at other addictions such as shopping, weed, psychedelics, and drugs. They all stem from moments of weakness when someone cannot control themselves, becoming completely engulfed in their vices and suffering bad results.
But the opposite is true for sex; it can only happen from moments of strength when someone's finances are in order, they have high enough status to be respected, and they take care of their looks. How can the fruits of such positive undertakings be as bad as drug addiction?
Also, by placing sex "In The Lake of Fire," it implies that most of the RVF 1.0, Red Pill, Manosphere, and PUA guys are suffering addictions comparable to drugs. The corollary is that Roosh, by writing his books, leads men to the "Lake of Fire." I think this is unacceptable and unfair to us men and especially Roosh.
I'd bet you Roosh would agree with Fr. Moses.
However I agree with you that placing sex into this category all by itself with no nuance is misleading. Sure, if you manage to date a great girl because you've achieved success, it's a sin, but is it on the same level as a guy who buys girls off only fans or instagram? There are definite levels to sexual sin which are glossed over in the vid, but I don't think it's very important to the overall message of Fr. Moses.
Roosh was deeply troubled with leading people astray i.e. lake of fire at the end of his online era. This can be read from his posts and his articles on his former website. It was the main reason he deleted all his books.
Watermelon enthusiasts who live in section 8, mug people in street corners, and have no higher aspirations in life than making it as rappers, don't really appear to be incels.
If all you want is casual sex, it's actually not all that hard to get.
You've got it. I've only met a couple of other guys in real life that have as honest and a strict rating system as I do. Perhaps it is because I haven't met a ton of other guys with stringent criteria just by chance. What that tells me is that most don't have very high standards or are in a major desert, two things which are verifiably true in the west.
My % of women 7+ in the west goes down nearly every year. At this point we're lucky if 1% are that good looking or higher. And people want to know why men, or successful men, aren't married ...
Totally agree.
And even though all of this is less holy and ideal than totally denying yourself, the fact remains that the reason why so much of this happens is because there are quite frankly very few outlets for sex for modern men. Even guys that can get in the top 10% and theoretically get it have to put in extraordinary effort at this point, and as they age, that ain't worth it either. That's the sad reality of the modern day.
And the only reason they’re not being held accountable is because everybody wants to f**k them and nobody has any dignity. And the other reason is there’s buckets of money to be made on not holding them accountable. A lot of people in our society serve mammon.
I’m entering a phase of life where I see mammon as the demon he is. Once I get my FU fund of 2 years, I’m switching gears in life. I’m not advocating for self harm or being lazy and uninvolved, but God provides. Put a bit of money away and let God do the rest.
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I see where you’re going with this. Honestly, porn is better than those types. Do you really want to meet your physical desires with hood rats?
The notion that younger religious women are better or more pure is also false in my experience. What fueled this deception is that it was very much the case in earlier times. Men who married in the post-WW2 years usually found a good woman because there were no apps and the pool was small. Marry your HS or college sweetheart, or find a woman at work. Of course harlots and the free love crowd existed, but they were easy to spot. In addition, there was stronger shaming keeping them in line.
Speak to women above 50 in church married or not, and you will find a certain naivete that is refreshing.
I rarely see that with the under 30s. In fact I have seen the following 1st hand.
1) Young ortho females dressed like whores in church. I was a catechumen and complained to the priest. He must have said something because the next Sunday she came in dressed in a full shawl like an overcoat.
2) Catholic women who are outright whores. Belief in abortion, sleeping around, part time sex workers. Terrible.
The good ones are just hard to find.