The Dr. E. Michael Jones (EMJ) Thread

@MusicForThePiano @It_Is_My_Time this one is for you :
Gemma O'Doherty: EMJ on Race-Mixing & Weaponized Migration
She laid into him on this topic and he was left silent, speechless, unable to respond!

She's coming from an Irish perspective, notably in that America has had blacks for centuries whereas any mixing into Ireland of other colours of peoples is an extremely recent and unfortunate development. You can even hear how it is almost unusual for her to call herself 'white' but she is now forced to do so as there are so many other colours coming into Ireland.

What was interesting was her take that America was supposed to be a new Europe, not a new Africa.

She repeats many times the case that blacks should go back to Africa, Chinese back to China. They talk about Candace Owens.

So there you go - even people on his own show are now taking him to task.
Excellent post. Pride is one of the seven deadly sins, and being so out of depth on a topic, and getting roasted over and over on it, and refusing to humble yourself and learn from others who know more than you is the textbook definition of pride. It is up to EMJ to grow up and stop this nonsense, which would be as easy for him to do as stop the "everybody equal" satanic nonsense and simply say "this isn't my field of expertise, so I will with what I do know".

God created us all, if we keep up EMJ's plan, Whites will be a former population that was genocided from existence.
 
He says that anyone could move to Poland, learn Polish, follow the laws, and that makes them "Polish".

In theory that is true, but that ceases to be true beyond a certain number. If you're the only African or Chinese in your school growing up in Polish town and you were Catholic, you will become Polish.

I seriously doubt that EMJ would be in favor of mass immigration into Europe or Ireland.
 
In theory that is true, but that ceases to be true beyond a certain number. If you're the only African or Chinese in your school growing up in Polish town and you were Catholic, you will become Polish.

I seriously doubt that EMJ would be in favor of mass immigration into Europe or Ireland.
I have heard him speak deeply on it in the past. From about 2017-19, when it was obvious to the higher IQ podcasters that Trump was a fake, there were some seriously deep conversations and amazingly they were held on Youtube. That seems like a lifetime ago. And you are sort of right, but the problem then becomes "what is too many?". Better yet, how does it benefit the local people, a people who are the most accomplished in the world, to bring in even one person from a society that accomplished little to nothing? And even more so, who are the people funding all these immigration movements? What do they think about traditional Catholics like EMJ?

I stand by what I said a few months ago about EMJ. He is one of the best Catholic/European Historian researchers and authors of all time. His work is beyond value. He is a genius in this realm. But he needs to remember that this is his field of expertise and when he steps off of it, to not become full of pride, but admit you don't know as much as someone else who is an expertise in the new field of conversation.
 
In theory that is true, but that ceases to be true beyond a certain number. If you're the only African or Chinese in your school growing up in Polish town and you were Catholic, you will become Polish.

I seriously doubt that EMJ would be in favor of mass immigration into Europe or Ireland.
No, Coop. this is wrong. I would ask you where you learn this silliness but I already know its source.

In jewish theory any of it is true because the jews only educate non-jewish Europeans to believe this trite. You never hear of a lone White man living amongst Africans suddenly becomes African, though it would be fair to say this hypothetical man has "gone native."

The truth is that the idea of an African being picked up like a prop by jewish hands and callously placed into a European country, or a Chinese province, or a Japanese fishing village, and learning the language, and living there, and even having descendants that continue on, does not make that African a European, a Chinaman, a Japanese, or vice versa of any permutation of the aforementioned races.

It does not matter if there is only one African in a Polish city, he is not Polish by blood, or in his generations. I don't need to consult anthropology or the sciences to know this. The Scriptures directly and explicitly emphasize lineage, generations, and ancestry particularly in relation to the covenant God made with certain individuals and the inheritance of faith, promises, and their identity through one's descendants. There is no nonsense about a "spiritual seed" transplanting across the different blood lineages of humans and humanoids.

What you are basing your claim off of is a branch of jewish psychological warfare. A racial warfare actually. One side wages deception to convince the other of the "doesn't really exist" fallacy of their own blood.

The Scriptures emphasizes the significance of bloodline, ancestry, and generational heritage in determining identity, particularly in terms of God's covenantal relationships with specific peoples.

Genesis 17:7: "I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you." Here God tells Abraham that His covenant will be established with him and his descendants. The covenant is passed through biological descendants, not by cultural assimilation or geographic location. This shows that identity in biblical terms is only connected to one's biological heritage. The promise made to Abraham and his descendants was tied to their bloodline, not simply where they lived or the language they spoke. Why would it be any different now?

Even if I don't use Scriptural references to prove this claim wrong, its always evident in front of my eyes every I see how different people are. We cannot change our blood. Ethnicity is not something that can be chosen or changed by adopting another culture or language. It is deeply and solely tied to biological descent and lineage. In the case of an African living in Europe or Asia, no matter how much they learn the language or integrate into the culture, their genetic makeup and ancestral lineage remain African.

A person's genetic inheritance determines their racial characteristics, features like skin color, facial structure, hair texture, intelligence quotient, potential capabilities. These physical traits are passed down through ancestral lines and are not altered by living in a different geographic or cultural environment. An African, no matter how long they live in Europe or Asia, will retain their African genetic traits.

History is filled with examples of White Europeans settling in non-European regions like Africa or Asia where they may have adopted local customs, learned local languages, and lived among the native populations for generations. However, these settlers never became African or Asian in the sense of ethnicity, their biological roots remained European, and even after centuries because of proper societal guidance and governance, many of their offspring are still 100% White. Colonial settlers in places like South Africa or India lived for centuries in these countries, and they remained racially and ethnically distinct from the indigenous populations. Their descendants, even after many generations, are still European in terms of ethnicity and race. So there is no way a single African will ever be Polish, or German, or English, or Swedish. Not now, not before, and not ever in the future.

I stand by what I said a few months ago about EMJ. He is one of the best Catholic/European Historian researchers and authors of all time. His work is beyond value. He is a genius in this realm. But he needs to remember that this is his field of expertise and when he steps off of it, to not become full of pride, but admit you don't know as much as someone else who is an expertise in the new field of conversation.

He is only good from a theological standpoint and specifically with Church history directly. Being an encyclopedia of liturgical references does not help one understand the genetic realities and the ethnic minutiae that each person experiences. Without the nonsense of blacks pretending to be European of today which he advocates, he couldn't even begin to comprehend the intricacies of these millennia-old ethnic identities that formed within people of the same race, let alone different races. Austrian Slavs and Austrian Germanics have two very different historical experiences if you go back a hundred years. There's no way any one can reconcile how the actions of the last dual-monarchy affected either unless they lived and experienced it firsthand. However, today, Slavs and Nords and Italics and Celts are all in unison that they are more alike than ever before with the proof of our genetic markers and the attack on all of us at the same time by these same forces attempting to erode the most precious thing God gave us in this material temporality.
 
There was one "accident" in his civilian life in America which was probably not an accident but various forces trying to off him and during his recovery in hospital he died and was probably poisoned. I'll read up on it, maybe he is more known to the American audience, although I can imagine that some parts of the story are censored or toned down.
Like JFK Assassination, he was targeted by the ((()))s for writing, talking and complaining about the ((()))s too much. Patton was outspoken because he likely connected the dots and saw what was really going on after the end of WWII. Story - or theory - was that the (((drivers))) were clearly hired hitmen to take out Patton in a "vehicle accident" in Mannheim, Germany. There were actually two car accidents: first one failed so they tried again the second time.

Edit. Re: "...censored or toned down" = Yes, that is true. Patton wrote a lot of personal diaries. When he died, people were saying his "personal book" - which supposedly contained a lot of informational stuff about the ((()))s - went mysteriously missing. Even though his "personal book" is now available in bookstores, there is speculation that the book seems censored due to the missing pages related to the ((()))s.
 
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Like JFK Assassination, he was targeted by the ((()))s for writing, talking and complaining about the ((()))s too much. Patton was outspoken because he likely connected the dots and saw what was really going on after the end of WWII. Story - or theory - was that the (((drivers))) were clearly hired hitmen to take out Patton in a "vehicle accident" in Mannheim, Germany. There were actually two car accidents: first one failed so they tried again the second time.
Patton's writing about them was just the beginning. He was rebuilding Bavaria as the postwar military governor to a decent pre-war standard, it was the only part of Germany where lawlessness was not as ubiquitous as the others during his brief tenure of leadership there, because he was not going along with "denazification". He kept the German workers in their positions and would not engage in the satiations of Morgenthau by firing and evicting Germans and hiring and housing "DPs - displaced persons" aka jews instead.

He survived both vehicular assassination attempts and was recovering in the hospital when he was poisoned by his own OSS (what became the CIA) about ten days after the second accident, which had nearly severed his spinal cord. His death was very sudden, and did not make sense because he was recovering. He had daily neurological physical rehabilitation sessions and was barely able to move his fingers but they had his head and neck in a somewhat rudimentary decompression device to help alleviate the nerve damage on his spine. He may have been a quadriplegic the rest of his life, but his intentions were clear if you read his letters to his wife and his diary.

His disobedience to Washington got so bad that Eisenhower had to tap the phone lines out of Patton's command building. They moved against him because he was planning on rallying the Germans with his 3rd Army to push the USSR out of Europe. Given the chaotic logistics of this time, it is likely he waiting for the war in the east to die down so that more Soviet resources would be expended but he intended to move as soon as possible. Most of his closest German associates in the Bavarian administration were former SS men, and they all shared a hatred for the bolsheviks. This precipitated Ike "the kike" Eisenhower to step in and remove Patton from command.

In late September 1945 they transferred him away from the command of the 3rd Army, and then he intended to resign his commission as an officer (yes even as a General) so that he would not be bound in retirement to keep his mouth shut. He intended to blow the whole rotten deal between the USA, UK, France, and USSR open when he returned to America. They took him out of the 3rd Army to shut him up but he still went on with his plans and would have been a thorn in the side of the agenda no matter where he went. If he got to home turf, they would have had a harder time of staging something the way they did. I'm surprised the American government ever displayed his diary and letters in their Library of Congress, perhaps they just wanted to make him look like a mad cowboy, but now his writings are as prescient as Hitler's and Goebbels.

He also intended to testify against the jewish kangaroo tribunals at Nuremburg. He specifically withheld NS documentation pertaining to the Nuremberg Laws from 1935 that ended up in a California library vault, documentation that the Allies were trying to use for additional phony charges against the surviving German military leadership, so I have no doubt if he was present for the major trials in 1946 he would have done something against them. He was the last of the racially-aware Generals who made a move. The rest kept their mouths shut after he died and behaved like good company men.

Read the link in my earlier post to see his writings. I'm sure there were a lot more quotes on the jews than what is available, but between The Patton Papers and his own entries, there is enough to confirm what we all already know.

EMJ never talks about fighting the wrong enemy like Patton did (albeit a bit too late on his part, Patton understood forgiveness and redemption and it revealed itself in his soul from his writings). EMJ still thinks in his erroneous historical mindset that the Catholic Center party was Germany's best option in 1932 when they were aiding and abetting, and sheltering violent murderous communists who were openly attacking the German people and had no strategy whatsoever for escaping Weimar.

EMJ's stance on German politics and victimhood narrative is merely one vulture of European culture cawing at another vulture of European culture (the jews) over who gets bragging rights to being abused by a corpse the most.
 
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He is really on fire in this one -
Said something like They went for 1948 years without a country of their own and in the years after they got one all hell broke loose.

President Kennedy said they couldn't have nuclear weapons and they killed him!
 
EMJ never talks about fighting the wrong enemy like Patton did (albeit a bit too late on his part, Patton understood forgiveness and redemption and it revealed itself in his soul from his writings). EMJ still thinks in his erroneous historical mindset that the Catholic Center party was Germany's best option in 1932 when they were aiding and abetting, and sheltering violent murderous communists who were openly attacking the German people and had no strategy whatsoever for escaping Weimar.

EMJ's stance on German politics and victimhood narrative is merely one vulture of European culture cawing at another vulture of European culture (the jews) over who gets bragging rights to being abused by a corpse the most.

Of course he does, he is half German and knows full well the history of the real concentration camps and holocaust of the 1940s: Eisenhower's death camps, and Dresden/Hamburg etc.

And it was Hitler's amateurish foolishness that led to the annihilation of Germany, which was worse off in 1945-47 than it had ever been.
 
Of course he does, he is half German and knows full well the history of the real concentration camps and holocaust of the 1940s: Eisenhower's death camps, and Dresden/Hamburg etc.

And it was Hitler's amateurish foolishness that led to the annihilation of Germany, which was worse off in 1945-47 than it had ever been.

What are you on about? Germany never did as well during the years before the "rest" declared war on them, sure his general command during the war can be questioned but he can definitely not be questioned for getting rid of Weimar degeneracy which we are now close to again.
 
Of course he does, he is half German and knows full well the history of the real concentration camps and holocaust of the 1940s: Eisenhower's death camps, and Dresden/Hamburg etc.

And it was Hitler's amateurish foolishness that led to the annihilation of Germany, which was worse off in 1945-47 than it had ever been.
One of the most imbecilic and disgusting takes from detractors like you is that Hitler should be blamed for the current state of the West because he lost the war opposing all the forces marshalled against Germany. The entirety of the British Empire, the United States, and the Soviet Union.

You have a wicked morality, one in which a man who is killed trying to save a woman from being raped is condemned because he failed in preventing the crime.

According to these disgusting creatures, we ought not to condemn the darling little rapist and murderer.

And following that logic, we ought not to condemn the darling little rapists and murderers of our race and civilization - the jews and their servants.
 
One of the most imbecilic and disgusting takes from detractors like you is that Hitler should be blamed for the current state of the West because he lost the war opposing all the forces marshalled against Germany. The entirety of the British Empire, the United States, and the Soviet Union.

You have a wicked morality, one in which a man who is killed trying to save a woman from being raped is condemned because he failed in preventing the crime.

According to these disgusting creatures, we ought not to condemn the darling little rapist and murderer.

And following that logic, we ought not to condemn the darling little rapists and murderers of our race and civilization - the jews and their servants.

Hitler was a poor military leader and a deeply flawed figure, as was his pagan occult ideology, and that is why he was allowed to rise. His economic policies and those of Schacht were very sound, as was his basic hatred for Weimar degeneracy, but his intransigent nature, managerial incompetence and extreme pagan ideology brought about the downfall of his nation and the West with it.

That is also why the nazi brand has been kept alive by the deep state as a poison pill today, it is amazing that people today are still clinging to this ideology, that is being astroturfed in order to undermine resistance to zog.

 
Hitler was a poor military leader and a deeply flawed figure, as was his pagan occult ideology, and that is why he was allowed to rise. His economic policies and those of Schacht were very sound, as was his basic hatred for Weimar degeneracy, but his intransigent nature, managerial incompetence and extreme pagan ideology brought about the downfall of his nation and the West with it.

That is also why the nazi brand has been kept alive by the deep state as a poison pill today, it is amazing that people today are still clinging to this ideology, that is being astroturfed in order to undermine resistance to zog.


Loomer, an actual real Fed, by the very definition of a "Fed" and doesn't try to hide it, is calling people who want Whites to survive "Feds".

When a real "Fed" calls other "Feds" you have to back off that term. It was a great way for the pro-Israel/anti-White/anti-Christian right-wing in the west to sow division. Is Handsome Truth a fed? Probably not, the last thing our Federal Govt. wants is the talking points he lays out to be put out to the public. Even if he is, who cares, just don't sign up for his group and go join him in real life, but still let him push a message that terrifies our federal govt. and the satanic elites, including Loomer herself.

Hitler's biggest flaws were these three things...

#1) And he admitted this at the end of the war to VanBraun, was that he should have put way more into rocket technology as he realized that was their only way to win the war and by the time he did, it was too little, too late.

#2) Hitler overestimated his people, believing they would all have the superman desire to fight like he did. Very few had his passion and determination, very few every do, and this realization is necessary lesson.

#3) Hitler thought he could reach the people in the west to overthrow their treasonous govt. and/or find peace with them and join in to defeat the common enemy of the Bolsheviks. He was stabbed in the back by the west and now we are all suffering greatly for it. It is a big lesson to learn.
 
Loomer, an actual real Fed, by the very definition of a "Fed" and doesn't try to hide it, is calling people who want Whites to survive "Feds".

When a real "Fed" calls other "Feds" you have to back off that term. It was a great way for the pro-Israel/anti-White/anti-Christian right-wing in the west to sow division. Is Handsome Truth a fed? Probably not, the last thing our Federal Govt. wants is the talking points he lays out to be put out to the public. Even if he is, who cares, just don't sign up for his group and go join him in real life, but still let him push a message that terrifies our federal govt. and the satanic elites, including Loomer herself.

Hitler's biggest flaws were these three things...

#1) And he admitted this at the end of the war to VanBraun, was that he should have put way more into rocket technology as he realized that was their only way to win the war and by the time he did, it was too little, too late.

#2) Hitler overestimated his people, believing they would all have the superman desire to fight like he did. Very few had his passion and determination, very few every do, and this realization is necessary lesson.

#3) Hitler thought he could reach the people in the west to overthrow their treasonous govt. and/or find peace with them and join in to defeat the common enemy of the Bolsheviks. He was stabbed in the back by the west and now we are all suffering greatly for it. It is a big lesson to learn.

Agreed about Loomer, but it is also clear that the swastika people also are infested with feds and are heavily astroturfed.

1) Hitler stymied his jet technology, limiting the use and effectiveness of the Me262, which was a generation ahead of everything else and could have single-handedly destroyed Allied bomber formations if it was deployed in large numbers.

2) Millions of Germans fought, and fought very well, Hitler wasted that effort by not letting the generals conduct their war and by being dead set on fighting "untermensch" Slavs.

3) He couldn't reach the West because his nazi ideology was a foreign pagan cult, unlike say Franco's fascist ideology tied with conservative Catholicism.

Anyway, I am not going to waste too much time on this AH discussion, I am sure that MFTP will come up with walls of text as I don't have the time for that and it's not even the subject here.
 
Agreed about Loomer, but it is also clear that the swastika people also are infested with feds and are heavily astroturfed.

1) Hitler stymied his jet technology, limiting the use and effectiveness of the Me262, which was a generation ahead of everything else and could have single-handedly destroyed Allied bomber formations if it was deployed in large numbers.

2) Millions of Germans fought, and fought very well, Hitler wasted that effort by not letting the generals conduct their war and by being dead set on fighting "untermensch" Slavs.

3) He couldn't reach the West because his nazi ideology was a foreign pagan cult, unlike say Franco's fascist ideology tied with conservative Catholicism.

Anyway, I am not going to waste too much time on this AH discussion, I am sure that MFTP will come up with walls of text as I don't have the time for that and it's not even the subject here.
Infested with Feds? Yes, certainly people paid by our govt. will infiltrate any organization that stands against the GOPe. This includes the Groypers, Alex Jones gatherings, TRS events, and any other "alternative right-wing" gathering. Anyone who becomes involved must be very aware of this fact and prepared to have to walk away if asked to do anything you think might be illegal.

1) Yes, correct, he wanted it to become a long range bomber and not a fighter jet and really messed up this decision.

2) True, many did fight hard, I'm not knocking the Germans who did fight. Just the fact that many of them were ordinary men and were not ready to risk their families back home for total war.

3) Incorrect. He couldn't reach the west because his speeches were either never displayed or never translated, so many in the west had no idea what he was really saying. Now his speeches are translated to English via AI and put on TikTok, they are blowing up in popularity. Many forget that one of Hitler's biggest achievements, one thought previously impossible, was bringing together Catholics and Protestants and them becoming a very big part of his party. This alone was a miracle. The fact EMJ doesn't talk about this is very telling.
 
Hitler was a poor military leader and a deeply flawed figure, as was his pagan occult ideology, and that is why he was allowed to rise. His economic policies and those of Schacht were very sound, as was his basic hatred for Weimar degeneracy, but his intransigent nature, managerial incompetence and extreme pagan ideology brought about the downfall of his nation and the West with it.

That is also why the nazi brand has been kept alive by the deep state as a poison pill today, it is amazing that people today are still clinging to this ideology, that is being astroturfed in order to undermine resistance to zog.


The way you think is massively simple. Please stop embarrassing yourself. You are dead wrong on Hitler and National Socialism.

Hitler was a better Catholic than EMJ, and your automated responses are as lame as your position. If you actually study Church history, "demographic" history, the history of the European peoples, you would see that what is advocated in Mein Kampf comes from a Christian ethos of living in a natural state of being with one's own people, the way that God designed and meant for us. Simply mentioning the brutality of nature and how the weak tend to die off and the strong survive it's uncaring cruelties is a basis of reality, not an invocation of some occult thaumaturgy that a suspicious illiterate peasant would be fearful of.

1 - The deep state despises anything to do with nationalism, and national socialism. The very flame you allege they keep alive is the one they devote countless resources to combatting. The fact that some of their movements get infiltrated is more a testament to the state of anarchic mindlessness that comes with frequent drug-abuse in recidivist populations than any alleged ideological flaw, though many now have taken the original Christian stance and perverted it to some Wotan-loving nonsense.

2 - Your consistent position that his alleged flaws led to the downfall of the West are further proof that you have an inverted morality and you are not in line with truth and justice. The forces of Bolshevism and Marxism would have destroyed Europe completely and entirely if Hitler had not come to power, no one else was strong enough to oppose them. You blame Hitler but not the people who destroyed the west, weak argument.

If your mother or sister were being raped, and you just stood there and watched and let it happen, which you most certainly would if this is your position, you would walk away with your faux morality and say to people "I did not lose because I did not intervene. I could have lost with repercussions if I stopped the rapist." People like you can never be trusted to do the right thing, or what is necessary.

Agreed about Loomer, but it is also clear that the swastika people also are infested with feds and are heavily astroturfed.

1) Hitler stymied his jet technology, limiting the use and effectiveness of the Me262, which was a generation ahead of everything else and could have single-handedly destroyed Allied bomber formations if it was deployed in large numbers.

2) Millions of Germans fought, and fought very well, Hitler wasted that effort by not letting the generals conduct their war and by being dead set on fighting "untermensch" Slavs.

3) He couldn't reach the West because his nazi ideology was a foreign pagan cult, unlike say Franco's fascist ideology tied with conservative Catholicism.

Anyway, I am not going to waste too much time on this AH discussion, I am sure that MFTP will come up with walls of text as I don't have the time for that and it's not even the subject here.
1 - you relied on this ridiculous claim in the other thread as another "lynchpin" to solving WW2. I cited the exact amount of steel and other alloys and resources they had disproving your claim that this would have been feasible. Gallands claims neglected the necessity of those compounds for production in other arenas that were crucial for holding the war infrastructure together on the ground.

2 - The generals, some in their refusal to abandon their bourgeoisie past and aristocratic ego, actively disobeyed him several times leading to catastrophic military errors. If you read the works of Leon Degrelle, someone who experienced all 4 years of the Eastern Front, and whose family keeps his work alive today, you would know this. You don't read it because your diminutive outlook would be squashed.

also 2 - "Die Untermencsh" has been proven false propaganda as I have posted before. There is absolutely zero dehumanizing language directed towards Slavs as a race in any official NSDAP documentation, and the alleged Himmler speech at Posen is a fake. Slavs are part of the Aryans.

3 - Madison Square Garden held regular rallies with over 20,000 people of the German-American Bund until it was shut down by the lackeys in Washington. National Socialism was also popping up in South America, Asia, and Iran around these times. So this is another false claim by someone who doesn't take the time to research properly. Primo de Rivera was much more aligned with NS than Franco's Fascism, but what does that matter? Franco gave this man Adolf Hitler, who you call a pagan, a public Catholic eulogy and a requiem mass in a Cathedral with all the rites bestowed upon a son of the Catholic Church. Franco prayed for his soul, you insult it.

You walk yourself into these traps of ignorance. Do yourself a favor and read more, maybe travel more and go to Europe and speak to people who were involved with or related to those involved with WW2, and maybe figure out how to put those neurons to work instead of just digesting words, try to understand the truth behind them. Your intentional dishonesty is more insulting than anything I could say.
 
Now, what happens from there - considering Trump won and his whole cabinet are Israel bootlickers - will be interesting. The people in charge are still too cowardly to stand up to Israel. I don't see anyone stopping Israel for the next few years.
Cross posting.. A productive and thought out way forward is presented and discussed here :
The American ruling class does not want to be associated with war criminals ultimately and there is too much noticing to keep it under wraps.
 
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