The Destruction of Modern Women

[Mrs TexasJenn]

hoe_math says in this comment that he's autistic. He also said the same thing in a video where he was being interviewed. It didn't sound like a joke to me. There are different types of autism, such as high-functioning Asperger's with milder symptoms and higher cognitive abilities. I suspect I may fall into that category myself, so I recognize it.

I also found his comment that when women say "be nice" what they mean is they want strong men to be nice, they aren't even referring to weak men or all men. That's been a big enlightening thing he's helped men to see that the red pill men weren't clear about, how a lot of women don't even see most men as people. I find it a useful heuristic to remind myself whenever women talk about men, you have to add the adjective "hot" to men to understand who they're talking about. That helps make sense of things like "men need to be nice" which is simply "hot strong men need to be less dangerous".

Another way of saying all that is that women care about characteristics X, Y and Z after they find you attractive, which they never say or admit. As such, of course that lip service isn't useful.

I really don't get the fixation on this point. Men are the exact same way. Most men aren't interested in women who aren't pretty/beautiful/hot and hardly pay them any attention at all. Men say they want a sweet, kind woman, but what they mean is they want a pretty woman who's also sweet and kind, not a sweet, kind, frumpy, plain woman.

Sure, more women got together with men they weren't that attracted to in the past (or even not attracted to at all) because they were dependent on them for money or they were more interested in a nice lifestyle than carnal attraction. But that didn't change their level of "genuine burning desire". I think my husband likes that I didn't need him for his money but have always had GBD for him.

Jenn, let me tell you something about men that perhaps you somewhat realize but can't fathom, and I'm especially aware of this because I'm both a man and realize that 85%+ of men don't realize many of these things either, or are incapable of this level of critical or abstract thinking: women are clueless as to how well men (the capable ones) both see and can analyze the big picture at a high level. It's like so many other things in life, and it occurs in the sexes - it's not necessarily that women are incapable of it, but they are not interested in this kind of thinking, so as a matter of fact they will never develop it even if theoretically they are a rare woman who actually can. When you understand that by nature men are expendable, and that both women and men are largely indifferent about other men, only a Saint is not going to be bitter (or come off that way) when analyzing how brutal human nature, and its indifferences, are.

I agree. I was just telling my husband the other day that most people aren't very interested in what's going on with you. They're very focused on their own stuff and would rather tell you about that than ask questions to get to know you. Even church people - they're more thoughtful and kind than most people, but still in most cases self-focused.

I've talked about this a lot, and the biggest problem is that women have power/leverage early in life, and apart from being young (knowing less), they have little interest in big picture analysis or long term assessment. Trading your youth to a good man is an unbelievably winning trade, given how long women live and the return on that (whole life protected and provided for by a guy who only gets a short window of your attractiveness?). What society does to men earlier in life is good for everyone too, which is fool them into this when they are adaptable and walking boners, for their future and for the families future, as they'll work for that and it gives them purpose. As I've said though, once you take women out of the youth and purity part of commitment, no man is going to be interested. At all. Because he gets nothing then, essentially.

It seems to me that most people are never guided toward long-term winning, even by their parents. And the powers that be have exploited that very well, by giving inverted guidance about life being all about "enjoying the moment".

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Women can be screened out quickly but only screened in slowly. Distrust may only take a second to feel, whereas trust takes months or even years to develop. A high notch count is a somewhat reliable indicator that a woman would be unsuitable as a wife; however it's absence is not a reliable indicator that she is suitable.

Regardless of her past experience, it's the responsibility of the man to ensure that she looks UP to him. A lower body count will, all else being equal, lower the chance of disrespect and dissatisfaction, but it is no guarantee. Instead, assessing patterns across multiple domains (appearance, personality, family, behavior, hobbies etc) is going to lead to better decision making and more opportunities to fulfill one's potential for experiencing all life has to offer, including children.

I hope this post was useful to some readers.

Thanks for all the great info. My dating years ended a looong time ago, so I'm probably prejudiced by old views and personal viewpoints formed ages before smartphones.

I am fascinated why their data showed that girls with 2 partners before marriage had divorce rates about the same as girls with 10 or more partners.

 

[analyst_green]

Thanks for all the great info. My dating years ended a looong time ago, so I'm probably prejudiced by old views and personal viewpoints formed ages before smartphones.

I am fascinated why their data showed that girls with 2 partners before marriage had divorce rates about the same as girls with 10 or more partners.

It said something about how women with two partners most likely had a serious relationship before their husband. And they're still thinking about that guy who they may actually have like more than the husband.

On the other hand, the more promiscuous women were just sleeping around and not taking any man seriously so they have fewer attachments and they have a greater sample size to compare the husband to. At least that's the theory.

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

Again, the only way this gets fixed is for both sides to take accountability. The fastest way to make women take accountability is to remove abortion, so that they can no longer fornicate without restraint. Until then, we will remain in the situation we find ourselves in.

What happens when women are able to have precise knowledge of their hormonal cycles?

Knowledge which wasn’t given to them directly from God, but through modern technology which also doesn’t kill babies?

 

[GrecoRoman]

What happens when women are able to have precise knowledge of their hormonal cycles?

Knowledge which wasn’t given to them directly from God, but through modern technology which also doesn’t kill babies?

This method works in theory, but especially if you’re living with her the practicality of it goes out the window. What’s she going to say? Pull out because there’s a risk? The primal will take over and you both won’t follow it unless you’re super disciplined.

 

[Blade Runner]

Even these days earning over 6 figures in parts of the US is not even a lot of money.

You see constantly surveys of women thinking 100k isn't anything anyway. Women are the drivers of impracticality and consumption, bar none.

The pill created an entire generation of hoes with zero accountability. That and widespread availability to abortion.

Yup.

Bottom line many modern women aren’t thinking past the present moment at all. They just think I’m feeling good now so I will feel good later.

Sadly, yes, this is the problem and it's what happens with the monetary, debt and consumption systems all the while - better spend it before they print more and it debases further.

Men say they want a sweet, kind woman, but what they mean is they want a pretty woman who's also sweet and kind, not a sweet, kind, frumpy, plain woman.

While true, you're flipping it a bit. What's important to men first is the youth and beauty part. What's important to women is the resource part but that's been solved (artificially for the most part). So women currently already get their top priority, and then they seek the looks part, which is what a man does (inversion). Barely any men get their top priority at this stage, which is my point.

I think my husband likes that I didn't need him for his money but have always had GBD for him.

Yes, you're lucky that you two had that combo, unlikely for the modern day and also likely for most of history in a sense. It's like women wanting to marry a rich guy, but realize they don't bring the goods to be able to pull off that pipe dream. That's why marriage really is about praciticality, but women aren't (consume too much, expect too much, talk and complain too much - and are generally lazy).

They're very focused on their own stuff and would rather tell you about that than ask questions to get to know you.

Yes, I even have a really good friend that I realized was surprised (this was a good proxy for the modern day and how uncommon it is) when I would ask him about his family and how they all were doing (parents, etc). He actually pointed that out, which didn't shock me (that it was uncommon) but it was part of who I am, and I was raised properly because that's a good, prosocial, and kind thing to do.

Most people aren't raised well or care, which are associated of course. I don't buy the excuses that people have all these things going on in their heads and lives, worlds, etc. If some people can do it, of course all can. I don't see quality and respect at all, and that's a societal thing, a family thing, and an overall selfish/genetic quality thing.

 

[MrRedsquare]

 

[Australia Sucks]

Western woman can likely get a "bigger, better deal" with a non-Western man

But the question is it also an upgrade for the foreign man? The answer is most likely no.

There are plenty of western women that will have the look that he likes but very rarely will they be traditional and pleasant. Why would he choose a western woman over say an Ukrainian woman or Romanian woman, etc if he is from a non white country but wants a white woman?

For most foreign men a western woman would be a downgrade from their own women and for the few who have a fetish for blonde hair blue eyes, etc they are more likely to pick a more traditional country (a Slavic country etc) than a country like USA, Australia etc where even if you find an attractive woman they are most likely a toxic feminist.

And again you are trying to look around and assume that the exception is actually the rule. Most of the rich Arabs and Turks that want a blonde go to Ukraine, Russia, Belarus etc to find a wife they (generally speaking) don't go to USA, Australia, England, etc.

 

[Australia Sucks]

I'm not saying mixed marriages are a good thing or a bad thing. I was only responding to the claim that no foreign men want to marry Western women. Plenty of top-tier foreign men (as well as top-tier Western men, like my husband) want to marry Western women.

Again the usual woman argument:

Man: "Statistically 99% of women do XYZ here is the evidence"

Woman: "But me and my friends are not like that!".

Man: rolls eyes.

Stop trying to point at the exception to the rule and act as if its common.

Is there sometimes for example some Russian or Chinese guy who spent 10 years working as a doctor in the USA who married one of the nurses from his work because he works 80 hours a week and these were the women in his social circle? Yes.

Are foreign men specifically traveling or m,moving to USA, Canada, Australia etc with the dream of marrying a western woman?

Most definitely not. And I am not interested in the 1 in 10,000 edge cases where that happened. Foreign men will often go to teach English in Vietnam or Japan or retire in the Philippines or digital nomad to Colombia or Brazil hoping to find a foreign wife. There is no equivalent of foreign men doing anything like this in the USA.

Apart from using common sense and your eyes the data is also very clear on this. For example look at K1 visas in the USA (a.k.a. the 90 day fiancee visa).

For example here is a company that deals with helping people get visas for USA and here is what they say about the K1 visa:

"Over 80 percent of RapidVisa (RV) sponsors are male. The median age of sponsors is 42".

Now they don't keep stats on this type of thing but I bet my bottom dollar if you looked at the 20% who are women sponsoring the man the vast majority of cases it would generally be a woman who is an American citizen but born overseas (or born in the USA from immigrant parents) bringing a man from her own country. For example a Filipina woman who has lived 10 years in the USA and has citizenship going back to her own country and bringing a man from her own country to the USA. Or a woman born in USA with Mexican parents bringing a man from Mexico to the USA. Vary rarely is it an actual native white western woman bringing a foreign man.

And just look at the top list of K1 visa countries (for people coming into USA):

1	Philippines	6,909
2	Vietnam	1,980
3	Dominican Republic	1,678
4	Mexico	1,617
5	United Kingdom	1,221
6	China	1,189
7	Colombia	970
8	Haiti	933
9	Brazil	875
10	Canada	868
11	India	791
12	Ukraine	767
13	Nigeria	728
14	Thailand	616
15	Russia	589
16	Laos	497
17	Cambodia	487
18	Japan	420
19	Ethiopia	397
20	Jamaica	381

Notice how these are all traditional passport bro countries where foreign men are known to go there to seek a wife?

Or do you think western women are tripping over themselves to marry Filipino men who are generally short and broke and likely to cheat?

The average weight for a Filipino man is 58 kilograms (117 pounds). The average weight for an American woman is 78 kilograms (171 pounds). Sure some women might be 78 kilograms because they are tall and muscular, etc but 90% of the time if a woman weighs 78 kilograms it is because she is fat.

 

[Australia Sucks]

Unless you move to a remote Orthodox village.

Sounds like great option to me. 1000 times better than wifing up a non virgin western woman.

 

[Blade Runner]

It's worth reiterating:

When you have to work and no one gives you anything, you basically can't be spoiled. How many men are "trust fund babies"?

That's the short and quick reason why women in the west are less desirable. As a group, they have no selection pressure to be good for a man. Period. That's why the statement "I don't need no man" was so common for so long, and perhaps only now is getting backlash as washed up women realize there's no way out, and whatever the call the youngest generation (zoomers?) isn't even interested in anything fun, risk associated, or people oriented (in real life, without the safety of screens).

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

The average weight for a Filipino man is 58 kilograms (117 pounds). The average weight for an American woman is 78 kilograms (171 pounds). Sure some women might be 78 kilograms because they are tall and muscular, etc but 90% of the time if a woman weighs 78 kilograms it is because she is fat.

I had no idea the average weight for an American woman had gotten that insanely high.

This quick info from Grok also surprises me. I must be mentally screening fat women out of my perspective. This is horrific.

 

[GrecoRoman]

I had no idea the average weight for an American woman had gotten that insanely high.

This quick info from Grok also surprises me. I must be mentally screening fat women out of my perspective. This is horrific.

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Many American women are straight up fat. These same women ‘have high standards in a man’ It’s beyond absurd at this point.

 

[Steady Hands]

I had no idea the average weight for an American woman had gotten that insanely high.

This quick info from Grok also surprises me. I must be mentally screening fat women out of my perspective. This is horrific.

Even from 2015-2018...

At least there is one group of non-landwhales left

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

Even from 2015-2018...

At least there is one group of non-landwhales left

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I don't think I knew any unmarried girls in China who were 135 lbs. I'm guessing the tallest girl I worked with, who was shapely and about 5' 7", was probably 130 lbs. BMI equivalent Chinese girls to American, the Chinese are not as pretty in the face.

 

[starlight]

Even from 2015-2018...

At least there is one group of non-landwhales left

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Enjoy those c-sections. Without modern medicine most of these cross-racial births would end in the death of the mother and child.

 

[NSOE]

Enjoy those c-sections. Without modern medicine most of these cross-racial births would end in the death of the mother and child.

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

Even from 2015-2018...

At least there is one group of non-landwhales left

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This is how Elliot Rodgers are made.

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

Steven Anderson called out churches who support single moms and their bastard children.




Stupid c*nt standing up for whores and acting like there’s nothing wrong with being a single mom with bastard children. Another reason “conservative” women are trash.

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

I received a Facebook friend request from someone who is only friends with one of mine, so I was checking her profile and came across her app preferences:


I think the popular use of ouija is a feature of modernity, but I don't know if there's a male equivalent to women's casual use of this and also Wicca, tarot, and astrology.

When I was a kid in the 1970's ouija was fairly popular. You could even find it in some toy stores and, not being Christian, I thought it was strange that it was taboo. I mean hey, it's just a game.

Fast forward a dozen years and some Dungeons & Dragons playing friends of mine who were around 20-22 y.o. got sucked into ouija by a satanist they unwittingly let into their social circle and it only took a few months for that creep to ramp things up with some spooky "spiritual experiences". Within another couple of months he had persuaded one of them, a young woman, to commit pre-meditated murder. She got an 8 year sentence and served 2.

Gave me a new perspective on the Salem witch trials.