The Destruction of Modern Women

Wutang said:
I think a 33 age guy with a 27 age girl is very doable even in the west and even among the secular liberal set.
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The problem is in the Anglosphere women hit the wall very early and most are usually toast physically after 25.

27 might be an okay age for women in certain countries where women take care of themselves. For example a lot of Italian or Spanish or Ukrainian women, etc still look great at 27 but most women in the English speaking countries are already looking worse for wear by age 25.
 
Blade Runner said:
Things may have changed post covid, but this has been the case in the recent past. The problem is that the 34-36 year old guy is treated like he's a washed up woman, and as is the case in an inverted society, it's probably when he's at top overall value.

I'd actually argue the way normies and others go, just by what I've seen in the modern west, if you don't strike by 32, they write you off. It's stupid, but generally what I have seen. A part of it is social as well, as most good, young or traditional women are gone or you won't be in the situations to meet them and make an ongoing appearance. Even church is like this for most, it's Sundays and Lent - not tons of exposure to really know the person, I would argue.
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Objectively 34 to 36 is a great age to be as a man. If you've taken care of yourself, your looks are still at their peak, muscle mass is at its peak, your mind is still sharp but you've gained much wisdom, you have a solid understanding of social dynamics, and you've advanced enough in your career to become financially prosperous. If you have a youthful appearance and energy and present yourself as a strong, confident, masculine man, you still have great chances in the west at that age with younger women. Most men, unless brought up in a traditional environment, also don't figure things out until they're over 30 so it takes some time to build the life you want.

Orthodox churches in the west aren't really a great option because of the gender ratio. That being said, it's still the best place to meet young traditional women. Many men will have to look elsewhere though.
 
At 35 it definitely feels like entering the prime years. Just need to start making more money, but the opportunity is there.

Unfortunately a Protestant church might be the best way to meet people throughout much of the US. But there are still some good ones if you vet properly. The church I go to has had a huge impact on my life this past year.
 
Douglas Quaid said:
But building a reputation can also take time, and people have to know you're sincere as well.
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Yes, one of the issues is that the social connections start running out in the early 30s for sure, as I have said before. At that point, the odds that you are around long enough to really create a good and lasting impact or gain trust is really difficult, especially since age gap taboos really try to shut that down even faster. And it's actually the only real viable solution for the west, but the deny it entirely. That's why I realized at 35 it was overseas or bust. But I do have a standard or high expectation, I won't lie. The thing is, I don't have that because I just want it, I have it because of what I've done in life.
 
Australia Sucks said:
True but the problem as we know is that women are not objective. On numerous occasions I have met younger women who seemed to like me but just could not get past the age difference because they were brainwashed by western society to think that large age gaps are wrong.
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You're making a false equivalency, it is societal but not in that way. Women marrying older men was more common in past generations largely due to economic factors. Whether it was because a more established man can better support a family or simply for her family to have one less mouth to feed.

This applies to courting for marriage only, dating (ie sleeping around) with older men was always taboo if anything it was even more taboo in older generations.
 
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FrancisK said:
You're making a false equivalency, it is societal but not in that way. Women marrying older men was more common in past generations largely due to economic factors. Whether it was because a more established man can better support a family or simply for her family to have one less mouth to feed.

This applies to courting for marriage only, dating (ie sleeping around) with older men was always taboo if anything it was even more taboo in older generations.
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Outside the west age gaps aren’t as stigmatized.
 
I stumbled upon a jolly real-life example of an answer suggested here. A variation on the patriarchal advice to stay unmarried since female youthful beauty is fleeting.



He also talks how in Austria during the war the allies were air dropping explosives disguised as toys to terrorize the people, his great uncle brought a toy flashlight home and got killed and his sister was left with a face full of shrapnel.
 
Australia Sucks said:


As bad as this Colombian cheating, lying gold-digger woman is, if you put a gun to my head and gave me the choice of marrying her or a western woman I would still choose this gold-digger Colombian woman.
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Nah man that girl is just as obnoxious as the average western woman, probably even worse. And she's a cheating whore.

While not abundant, there are still better women in the west than that. A lot of western guys are going to get burned by putting foreign women on a pedestal and automatically disqualifying every western woman.
 
Douglas Quaid said:
Nah man that girl is just as obnoxious as the average western woman, probably even worse. And she's a cheating whore.
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Obviously I wouldn't marry her out that is why I said gun to the head scenario. As awful as she is she is still less obnoxious than an average western woman. At least the guy could get a reluctant apology out of her and get her to admit she was wrong (even if it was insincere). Try getting a western woman to ever admit she was wrong. As for being a cheating whore most western women are also cheating whores. And at least she accepts an age gap and is willing to get married young so the guy is at least getting her youth. Try gewtting a western nwoman at 19 to marry a guy 10 years older than her.

The point I was trying to make is that even in the trashy/obnoxious/bottom tier foreign women are still less bad than a typical western woman.

Just a question to the western women on this forum even if you are a good person do you ever feel ashamed at how bad your compatriots are and just being associated with western women? Western men are the gold standard of men worldwide whereas western women are bottom tier. The contrast could not be more stark. There is a reason that western men often look for brides abroad but you rarely see the reverse of western women looking overseas for a man to marry. No foreign men want to marry a western woman (in general of course there are a small number of exceptions).

For example when I was in latin america I met a decent number of local women who were interested in the idea of a relationship with a foreign man but I never saw local guys interested in dating "gringas" of course there were many who would happily sleep with a gringa but none of them wanted a serious relationship with a gringa.
 
Australia Sucks said:
As awful as she is she is still less obnoxious than an average western woman.
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While what you say is true, at the end of the day it doesn’t matter. Past a certain point it doesn’t matter who’s disrespecting you, it all feels the same.

Hard to judge her based on a reality show. They’re literally giving her fame for interacting with this accessory [man]. Obviously she’s going to be more animated. In a way this guy is lucky the camera is there, for a simp the constant socializing is love. She might’ve been distant, on her cellphone otherwise.

What’s worrying is these foreign brides are getting shameless too. Let’s just say no Saudi woman is going to acting whorish on “Marrying Habibi”.
 
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