The Destruction of Modern Women

[cormy_cormorant]

(maybe female sex tourism in the Gambia and Jamaica?)

"Gambit in Gambia" would make for a cool book title. someone should get down to work on it

 

[GrecoRoman]

ya, but I invested a lot in Disney junk to the point where I created a whole thread on here about it. I’m more in the same page as Fr Trendham is.



He did this piece in regards to the topic.

what’s a good man tho? When he doesn’t let her have her “breaks” and dumps her he’s just controlling and abusive. I believe regardless of sex, people need to know what they’re getting into in regards to sexual relationships… unfortunately we’re so severed from the metaphysics of that it’s all a mess. I’m seriously surprised monasticism isn’t making a come back.

It may be the best option for some men. I’m the type that enjoys solitude and being married may be a grating experience for me.

The way things are now on a sheer probability basis finding a compatible partner is going to be a challenge. Let’s look at the things in play.

Obesity/unattractive. A lot of women are just overweight.

Feminism / bad personality / super career oriented types. For guys on this board I doubt we can deal with these types nor would we want to. I work in a professional field and am surrounded by these types. I don’t find myself compatible with them nor do they find me compatible. Most of their husbands don’t seem masculine and they seem to marry or date guys that accept the woman wearing the pants.

Women with kids already. As you get older you will encounter many women who already have kids. It’s a no for me, but even wealthy and famous guys have done it like Joe Rogan.
If you both have kids from a previous marriage I see how it can work. Some of these types are promiscuous and desperate for partners. I had a hot Brazilian with two kids literally ask me to be her boyfriend. I didn’t go for it, but she was very attractive and still in an age range of having more kids. That’s another thing, of course many single moms can be very attractive. That’s why they have kids because men usually choose for beauty.

Women with promiscuous pasts. One of my friends said something profound. After a man sleeps with a lot of women he becomes wise like a monk. But a woman who sleeps with a lot of men 9/10 becomes totally broken. It’s a tough deal and there is a false dichotomy with guys who have been previously promiscuous only deserving a women with a promiscuous past. I find this line of thinking completely wrong. While wanting virgin bride is unrealistic for most guys over the age of 21, there’s a point when her body count is just too much. Do some guys crack by sleeping around? Sure, but most guys would totally stop that life and settle down with a 6, who is submissive with a good personality that would make a good mother. I’ve seen it first hand.

Age gap shaming. Let’s say you’re 40 and find a great woman younger than you. Most of her friends and family will be against it, having her ear and messing things up.

You also get more set in your ways. If you’re financially independent and have a full life with hobbies, imagine the big changes you need to make when you’re in a serious relationship. Habits become harder to change with time.

It is rough, but by no means impossible. The thing is in my situation it would require me making dating like a full time job and I don’t want to make that commitment.

 

[Shaquilleoatmeal]

Some comments:

 

[Blade Runner]

The way things are now on a sheer probability basis finding a compatible partner is going to be a challenge. Let’s look at the things in play.

Yes, GrecoRoman might as well be Blade Runner Jr. he's so spot on

Most of their husbands don’t seem masculine and they seem to marry or date guys that accept the woman wearing the pants.

This is one of the weirder parts about people's claims on "natural selection" and instinct in women, which shows you that the selection is far more social and mental than anything purely material/hormonal/instinctual (though you could argue the pill thing might be disrupting most). The desire for power over a man, not to be led, not submitting, etc is FAR more common nowadays. Even if it is women emboldened by taking on masculine roles and having money, it is still "going against biology" which should show us that things related to human interaction and reproduction aren't about this "best genes" idea at all.

That’s another thing, of course many single moms can be very attractive. That’s why they have kids because men usually choose for beauty.

I've always laughed and this and stated, of course women with kids are hot, that's why a guy banged them. Obviously not in every scenario but you get the point. Did she want you to be a "bf" that had to act like he cared about her kids and the costs in raising them? The dog thing came up in the reels the other day, and a woman was saying how she was surprised that having a dog is a red flag for guys. This brings up get another thing that women are so dishonest about: of course it's a red flag, because women are going to assume that because you're "status X" (boyfriend) that you should then say yes to taking care of Y or Z (read: dog same as kid in some manner, etc). They don't see it that ways because they are dumb or dishonest, but the whole thing of course is trading sex for favors. Unlike logical men, they like to just say "you like me so you'll do this" generically, but would only do that with friends of theirs with dogs, so they can trade caretaking and thus quid pro quo. I've seen it. They'd never ask some friend of theirs that didn't have a dog to sit it. Ha.

It’s a tough deal and there is a false dichotomy with guys who have been previously promiscuous only deserving a women with a promiscuous past. I find this line of thinking completely wrong. While wanting virgin bride is unrealistic for most guys over the age of 21, there’s a point when her body count is just too much. Do some guys crack by sleeping around? Sure, but most guys would totally stop that life and settle down with a 6, who is submissive with a good personality that would make a good mother. I’ve seen it first hand.

Yes, that comes up on this forum all the time and it's stupid as you state. If you're just honest about humans, you'll see that before Christians were called to a new standard, what existed before was concubines, divorce, etc. The tradeoff, then, for the sensible christian of course was monogamy and marriage, but WITH a young virgin wife. Conflating this and not understanding basic human biology and fallenness, whatever you want to call it, of man who wants to have a lot of sex is just another part of the modern dishonesty and weakness of feminization of Christianity we've seen after the mid 20th century.

Age gap shaming. Let’s say you’re 40 and find a great woman younger than you. Most of her friends and family will be against it, having her ear and messing things up.

Same point. I've brought it up a ton.

My biggest gripe is not that I am encouraging age gaps per se, I've always said they are the clear solution to the problem. That problem was created by not being honest with women that their value is high and best at ages 16-23. So if you or your society takes them out of that, there's going to be a price to pay, and we've seen that price. But people have chosen the "I want a material guarantee so I go for career so I have a mitigating factor of dependence on a man" and it turns out, no, life doesn't work that way. If you're a 7+ sure everything is going to work for you in general in life, but again, I only find that 7s or higher at this point are like 2% of the population, and have to be young to boot to even get that high of a rating.

You also get more set in your ways. If you’re financially independent and have a full life with hobbies, imagine the big changes you need to make when you’re in a serious relationship. Habits become harder to change with time.

Yes. When you realize that most people aren't that interesting to talk to anymore, you can't get "fooled" like they could have in your high boner and more emotional 20s, and that you'll have to pay for a lot of stuff that just doesn't make sense/consumption, you realize the only women that are very easy to deal with are quiet ones that do something for your life. It's sad, but those are very rare, and most are going to be on the uglier/fat side, sadly.

 

[KulturedKaveman]

It may be the best option for some men. I’m the type that enjoys solitude and being married may be a grating experience for me.

The way things are now on a sheer probability basis finding a compatible partner is going to be a challenge. Let’s look at the things in play.

Obesity/unattractive. A lot of women are just overweight.

For now, hyperinflation will help with that

Feminism / bad personality / super career oriented types. For guys on this board I doubt we can deal with these types nor would we want to. I work in a professional field and am surrounded by these types. I don’t find myself compatible with them nor do they find me compatible. Most of their husbands don’t seem masculine and they seem to marry or date guys that accept the woman wearing the pants.

Millennial women were told to chase our dreams. That’s left us burnt out, broke and dreaming of a rich patron | Carolin Würfel

In creative industries, my generation of women are expected to be grateful to be there at all. That gratitude has kept us compliant – and broke, says writer Carolin Würfel

www.theguardian.com

Do they really want that tho? I make about 90-105k depending on the year. Why be career oriented over your 40-50k marketing job? We both know that’s how much these women make. I own my own home and pay my bills. I could still do that on probably 60k a year. If I funded a partners art or music career and got a house keeper so she wouldn’t have to lift a finger, I’d still be taking home 60k a year, more than enough for my bills. 35-45k a year would cover these things. I always thought my offer would appeal to women especially the creative types I’m into, no chores and I’ll help with your stuff. Plus I got a house to live in, no rent. Still more single than ever.

Women with kids already. As you get older you will encounter many women who already have kids. It’s a no for me, but even wealthy and famous guys have done it like Joe Rogan.
If you both have kids from a previous marriage I see how it can work. Some of these types are promiscuous and desperate for partners. I had a hot Brazilian with two kids literally ask me to be her boyfriend. I didn’t go for it, but she was very attractive and still in an age range of having more kids. That’s another thing, of course many single moms can be very attractive. That’s why they have kids because men usually choose for beauty.

I’d be open to it if 1. She was open to having more, if she’s done, it wouldn’t work. If she does have kids and wants to go the have more route she has to become Orthodox. That’s a non negotiable if she already has kids. I’m willing to negotiate on religion if she’s child free.

Women with promiscuous pasts. One of my friends said something profound. After a man sleeps with a lot of women he becomes wise like a monk. But a woman who sleeps with a lot of men 9/10 becomes totally broken. It’s a tough deal and there is a false dichotomy with guys who have been previously promiscuous only deserving a women with a promiscuous past. I find this line of thinking completely wrong. While wanting virgin bride is unrealistic for most guys over the age of 21, there’s a point when her body count is just too much. Do some guys crack by sleeping around? Sure, but most guys would totally stop that life and settle down with a 6, who is submissive with a good personality that would make a good mother. I’ve seen it first hand.

Our founder lmao. But the difference is this. It’s difficult to sleep with a lot of women. To do so you need to be in good shape, good with kids, charismatic, successful or involved in the secretive underworld, attractive, and if that wasn’t difficult enough, since the later 10s, inappropriately tall.

Age gap shaming. Let’s say you’re 40 and find a great woman younger than you. Most of her friends and family will be against it, having her ear and messing things up.

I look younger than I am so idk if that’s going to be a problem. Plus the gal I wanted the trad life with who plagues me to this day is with a guy some 20 years her elder. He could pull it off somehow.

You also get more set in your ways. If you’re financially independent and have a full life with hobbies, imagine the big changes you need to make when you’re in a serious relationship. Habits become harder to change with time.

It is rough, but by no means impossible. The thing is in my situation it would require me making dating like a full time job and I don’t want to make that commitment.

That’s the problem. To get to be able to do everything I talked about earlier, you’re not dating. You’re saving and working.