The China Thread

Just checked out serpentza's YT channel, but only after observing the fellow travellers getting into a hissyfit just from reading the man's name. That viscerally negative reaction was suspicious as hell, hence some first hand research was required.

Currently three videos in and truth be told, serpentza's work is impressive. Guess the bloodred commie feathers got ruffled for good reason. When serpentza enters the room CCP bots panic, it's as if their entire mechanism breaks down. Three videos in and not a single thing the man said has been refuted. No counterpoints. No debunks. No real arguments. Just mockery, deflection, temper tantrums and character assassination attempts.

Serpentza's latest uploaded video is on that exact same CCP agitprop video posited and defended to the hills in this thread. Aka a 'US expat' walks into one of Shenzhen's international (ergo most expensive) hospitals without appointment, gets a health check done and consults a specialist within a couple of hours, and all this set him back the equivalent of just 4 USD.

Serpentza literally ripped that video apart from top to bottom. Tldr: it's all fake. Absolute gold. Bonus take: he sourced the origin of the video through its url. Total shocker: it leads to a TikTok account which gets used as un uploading point for CCP propaganda videos, and from where the Hydra disseminates and amplifies it to the rest of the non-Chinese internet until it eventually gets splashed onto your plate like the gutter oil fried e-Changslop that it is.

From here on serpentza is going to be part and parcel of this thread, and his work will be regularly shared. Fragile CCP-splainers will just have to close their eyes and pretend serpentza doesn't exist from here on.



Isn't this the serpent who lived and married a Chinese woman?

Why isn't he more active helping his fellow boer people?
 
The video below is another one of serpentza's bangers, about three years old and one of his most viewed uploads. Vibe is comparable to 'dimwit American walks in state of the art Shenzhen hospital and gets same day specialist treatment for 4 USD' video.

Video is about a paid off foreign influencer repeating CCP propaganda on Xinjiang.

At that time there was a lot of back and forth arguing about Xinjiang mass internment, the labor camps and political crackdown in general. In the wake of string of rather serious Muslim attacks and riots the CCP had started repressing non state approved Islam and had built a series of mass internment facilities in Xinjiang to detain those it accused of wrongthink. The CCP always maintained these were 'vocational education and employment training centers with a view to assist in their rehabilitation'. According to the Chinese themselves at least 1.28 million Xinjiang people of whatever ethnicity went through 're-educational courses' in these camps over the years.

In much of the rest of the world these camps were considered forced labor and concentration camps. The detained were judicially outside the law/penal system and were often kept detained indefinitely on administrative charges and without legal process. Some even spoke of a (cultural) genocide as the Chinese forcefully tried to stifle Islam based political dissent and communitize/Sinicize the region by force.

In those years too the CCP sent a small army of compromised foreign influencers to Xinjiang to walk around tourist attractions and show the world how all was well. Serpentza back then made this absolute banger in which he dissected this sloppy paid off foreign CCP shill.

The influencer literally got followed by his handlers/minders throughout his entire Xinjiang trip, and he accidentally filmed his handlers at least 15 times. Whole thing was staged from A to Z.

 
Everything that comes out from China is a lie. The only place you have good free health system is Europe. Cuba is also free but their equipments are medieval.
 
Just checked out serpentza's YT channel, but only after observing the fellow travellers getting into a hissyfit just from reading the man's name. That viscerally negative reaction was suspicious as hell, hence some first hand research was required.

Currently three videos in and truth be told, serpentza's work is impressive. Guess the bloodred commie feathers got ruffled for good reason. When serpentza enters the room CCP bots panic, it's as if their entire mechanism breaks down. Three videos in and not a single thing the man said has been refuted. No counterpoints. No debunks. No real arguments. Just mockery, deflection, temper tantrums and character assassination attempts.

Serpentza's latest uploaded video is on that exact same CCP agitprop video posited and defended to the hills in this thread. Aka a 'US expat' walks into one of Shenzhen's international (ergo most expensive) hospitals without appointment, gets a health check done and consults a specialist within a couple of hours, and all this set him back the equivalent of just 4 USD.

Serpentza literally ripped that video apart from top to bottom. Tldr: it's all fake. Absolute gold. Bonus take: he sourced the origin of the video through its url. Total shocker: it leads to a TikTok account which gets used as un uploading point for CCP propaganda videos, and from where the Hydra disseminates and amplifies it to the rest of the non-Chinese internet until it eventually gets splashed onto your plate like the gutter oil fried e-Changslop that it is.

From here on serpentza is going to be part and parcel of this thread, and his work will be regularly shared. Fragile CCP-splainers will just have to close their eyes and pretend serpentza doesn't exist from here on.


Man, I thought the "China is the new utopia" & "everything the CCP does is great" fanboys on here were bad, but it turns out the anti China & pro western globohomo cheerleaders are just as insufferable.

Neither side seems capable of taking a rational neutral realistic view of today's mainland China.
 
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Everything that comes out from China is a lie.
Of course it is. The Chinese "leaders" are the filthiest, most materialistic, thieving, cheating, anti-Christian demons on planet earth which is why the jews love them so much and co-opted them so long ago to do satan's continued dirty work for them. And never forget, the Chinese attacked us five years ago with the "fake" covid virus out of Wuhan that the jew Dean "Koontz" (who now claims to be Catholic) predictive programmed us with in his 1981 book The Eyes Of Darkness calling it the "Wuhan-400" virus (but don't believe your lying eyes on that one).

NOTE ABOUT THE COVID-19 PLANDEMIC: It is true that this virus was just a "strong flu" and not anywhere near as bad as (((they))) said it was. Covid-19 was just a shot over the bow test run by the jew controlled Chinese governnent, part "amplified" (i.e. weaponized) virus, part psy-op. It was a test run to check effectiveness of bio-weapons delivery systems on a mass scale and to check American's level of love for "freedom" and how quickly they would abandon this so-called freedom for compliance. The vax rollout was the third prong of the attack and ready to go years in advance which is why (((they))) were able to "invent" it out of thin air and roll it out so quickly.

In other words, f*ck China, no Christian man should ever go to bat for, much less defend these filthy Christ-denying commies.
 
For the pro-China sock puppets on this thread here is a factoid for you. According to Li Xuntei chief economist at Zhongtai securities 964 million people in China were earning less than 2000 yuan per month (around $280 USD). Does that sound like an advanced thriving economy to you?
 
Just checked out serpentza's YT channel, but only after observing the fellow travellers getting into a hissyfit just from reading the man's name. That viscerally negative reaction was suspicious as hell, hence some first hand research was required.

Currently three videos in and truth be told, serpentza's work is impressive. Guess the bloodred commie feathers got ruffled for good reason. When serpentza enters the room CCP bots panic, it's as if their entire mechanism breaks down. Three videos in and not a single thing the man said has been refuted. No counterpoints. No debunks. No real arguments. Just mockery, deflection, temper tantrums and character assassination attempts.

Serpentza's latest uploaded video is on that exact same CCP agitprop video posited and defended to the hills in this thread. Aka a 'US expat' walks into one of Shenzhen's international (ergo most expensive) hospitals without appointment, gets a health check done and consults a specialist within a couple of hours, and all this set him back the equivalent of just 4 USD.

Serpentza literally ripped that video apart from top to bottom. Tldr: it's all fake. Absolute gold. Bonus take: he sourced the origin of the video through its url. Total shocker: it leads to a TikTok account which gets used as un uploading point for CCP propaganda videos, and from where the Hydra disseminates and amplifies it to the rest of the non-Chinese internet until it eventually gets splashed onto your plate like the gutter oil fried e-Changslop that it is.

From here on serpentza is going to be part and parcel of this thread, and his work will be regularly shared. Fragile CCP-splainers will just have to close their eyes and pretend serpentza doesn't exist from here on.



Several outright lies on this video and your commentary:
  • The video of the expat in Shenzen was not from a Chinese govt site, it was from a guy who goes by Wall Street Apes, the site only picked it up and relayed it, it was not commissioned by Chinese officials as serpentza implied. As I have stated above, that video is very similar of those from many expats who clearly aren't shills, see my post above (travel vlogs with very small subs, local expats who cover food, sites and practical advice etc). This German expat with 3k subs describes the same experience as the others:
  • The hospital in question is not a private hospital, it is a public hospital affiliated with a local university. Serpentza knows this and is lying about it.
  • price list serpentza uses is from the international wing of the public hospital, where you have the kind of service offered along high-end medical toursim lines, prices are higher than the public rate by a factor of 10x plus. difference in price and services is described in videos I have posted above.
  • Serpentza's data of Shenzen income is off by around 100%: In Shenzhen, the average monthly salary is around ¥12,799 RMB (approximately $1,796 USD)
  • Every single expat visit to the local hospital showed clean, well-equipped modern facilities with good service and amazingly short visit cycles with tests (blood, ST, MRI) and specialist visits done in the same day on a drop in basis. In Canada, UK or France these treatments could take up to a year to complete that whole cycle.


Serpentza clearly is a shill, all his messaging goes in one direction, and most of it is based on a fake narrative. It's easy to differentiate between political shills and apolitical expats or travelers, which were the source of my posts above. Some of those expats are actually critical about some aspects of life in China, like the American wife with a Chinese husband who mentioned how her husband's face and name was posted on a screen in an intersection where he jaywalked, but serpentza is a liar.

The irony is that he has lived in China for over 10 years, which makes you wonder why he stayed there that long if he hated that country and its people so much. As well by having been there for over a decade, he would have clearly seen that living conditions were improving there.
 
For the pro-China sock puppets on this thread here is a factoid for you. According to Li Xuntei chief economist at Zhongtai securities 964 million people in China were earning less than 2000 yuan per month (around $280 USD). Does that sound like an advanced thriving economy to you?

China today is mostly a country with a large and growing middle class and a large lower-middle class, with a fast-growing upper-middle class and a shrinking precariat or lower class. Bear in mind that in 1990, China was poorer per capita than Haiti or the Philippines. Still the figures above don't sound right, is this a recent stat? Chinese wealth and income have been rising steadily at a fast rate:

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According to the World Bank, more than 850 million Chinese people have been lifted out of extreme poverty; China's poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 0.7 percent in 2015, as measured by the percentage of people living on the equivalent of US$1.90 or less per day in 2011 purchasing price parity terms

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Also keep in mind that in China retirement age is 50 for women and 55 for men, so you have hundreds of millions of retirees on low income. There people however might have savings, and almost all are homeowners who don't pay property tax or income tax, and whose food, transport and healthcare expenses are very low.
Record High Savings:
Chinese households had a record high of $19.13 trillion in savings by the end of 2023
, according to WSJ.

Based on Pew's income band classification, China's middle class has been among the fastest growing in the world, swelling from 39.1 million people (3.1 percent of the population) in 2000 to roughly 707 million (50.8 percent of the population) in 2018.
 
Unlike USA the Chinese government and leaders are very quiet and secrative, they dont share their opinions and views out loud, does anyone actually know what their true feelings towards the USA might be? What goes on in their meetings behind closed doors?
 
Unlike USA the Chinese government and leaders are very quiet and secrative, they dont share their opinions and views out loud, does anyone actually know what their true feelings towards the USA might be? What goes on in their meetings behind closed doors?

One very good source is straight from the horse's mouth, in the form of the cultural observational travelogue of Wang Huning, currently #4 in the CCP hierarchy. A dorky Chinese figure, Wang is a lot bigger than just this though, he has been the most influential intellectual in China over the last several decades, having been the leading adviser to the last 3 Chinese presidents, and even more closely so to Xi Jinping. Some observers have opined that he might have been the most influential intellectual in the world this century, defining the cultural and political matrix of the CCP.

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Wang travelled extensively in the West and the US as a young up and coming political science scholar, he published a short book based on these travels and interactions he has had in late 1980s America, when China had the same GDP per capita as Haiti and the US was at its peak but already showing some social strains.

That book, titled America Against America, is an astute outsider cultural critique along the lines of de Tocqueville's Democracy in America in which Wang marvels at the American economic engine but is also very critical of structural economic and social problems, he practically foresaw the descent into American culture wars and the flaws of the Boomer mindset and rise of wokeism 4 decades ago, which is pretty remarkable for a complete outsider.

PDF of the book (unofficial translation from Mandarin) :

Here's a good review of Wang's America Against America (not mine) :

The end of the family means the end of America: a Chinese perspective.

Wang Huning, a close advisor to Xi Jinping and a 4th ranking member in the Communist Party of China spent a year traveling across America and documenting its conditions in a book called America Against America. He maintained an objective and open view towards Western democracy and capitalism, emphasizing the importance of leaving dogmatism behind to seek truth among facts.

The last chapter was dedicated to the primary issues threatening the future of America. The first and most important point he noted was the disintegration of the family. He also went on to talk about the drug crisis and spiritual crisis. I highlight the main points below:

1. Individualism is valued above the family.
Even within the family, the individual takes priority over the family as a whole. Husband and wife maintain private lives from each other, something not common in China, and the privacy of the parent and child is maintained over a cohesive and shared environment between all. An example of this today is the child adopting a completely unique identity in school, protected by liberal teachers. Another example, in the opposite direction and specifically noted by him, is keeping babies in different rooms as early as possible, for parents to maintain their own independence.

2. Children are encouraged to be independent and leave home as early as possible while maintaining little bonds with parents. As a consequence, many old people remain alone and subject to seek elderly care from outside of the family.

3. Aside from very rich families, families tend to not care who their child dates or marries.
In fact, the families are expected to not have any say in this.

4. The loose family structure has also resulted in what he called "stray youth."
These youth do not participate in larger family problems and tend not to feel an obligation to take part in resolving familial issues. The comfort of the individual is exalted over duties towards family. For this, they become strays without any organic ties to the world.

5. Drugs. Not much to say. We all know what this issue is. China broke away from it's drug issues. America is still stuck in it and everyone is in denial.

6. Hypersexuality and feminism.
Wang ties these two phenomena to the American disconnect from its own Western heritage, specifically classical literature, music, and other long-standing and historic developments of culture. He notes that the diversity and inclusion project can't cope with the reality that Western classics which defined the trajectory of Western culture are largely creations of men, for better or worse. To better integrate women, classics have to be rejected. Further, happiness is found through immediate carnal gratification and relaxation. Because people have sex much earlier in their lives compared to people in China, and without any commitments, the emotion of love becomes indifferent and alienated.

He goes on to cite other specific issues regarding homelessness, gangs, as well as Black and Indigenous struggle. The book was released in 1991 and since then, things have become far worse than any observations he made.
 
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Are there any boots on the ground in China here on the forum?

There used to be at least 3 or 4 guys on the old RVF, but they all left China during the fake pandemic.

China's lockdown measures were some of the harshest on the planet, and something like between 60% to 90% of all western expats left the country between 2020 and 2022. Very few desired to return afterwards, and even among those that wanted to, their residence visas had all expired and they needed to start applications from scratch. At that stage most expats decided places like Malaysia and Singapore were much easier and hassle free places to go and live.

Pre 2020 China is a different place to post 2020 China.
 
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One very good source is straight from the horse's mouth, in the form of the cultural observational travelogue of Wang Huning, currently #4 in the CCP hierarchy. A dorky Chinese figure, Wang is a lot bigger than just this though, he has been the most influential intellectual in China over the last several decades, having been the leading adviser to the last 3 Chinese presidents, and even more closely so to Xi Jinping. Some observers have opined that he might have been the most influential intellectual in the world this century, defining the cultural and political matrix of the CCP.

FFmQUktXEAcSpXS.jpg:large


Wang travelled extensively in the West and the US as a young up and coming political science scholar, he published a short book based on these travels and interactions he has had in late 1980s America, when China had the same GDP per capita as Haiti and the US was at its peak but already showing some social strains.

That book, titled America Against America, is an astute outsider cultural critique along the lines of de Tocqueville's Democracy in America in which Wang marvels at the American economic engine but is also very critical of structural economic and social problems, he practically foresaw the descent into American culture wars and the flaws of the Boomer mindset and rise of wokeism 4 decades ago, which is pretty remarkable for a complete outsider.

PDF of the book (unofficial translation from Mandarin) :

Here's a good review of Wang's America Against America (not mine) :

The end of the family means the end of America: a Chinese perspective.

Wang Huning, a close advisor to Xi Jinping and a 4th ranking member in the Communist Party of China spent a year traveling across America and documenting its conditions in a book called America Against America. He maintained an objective and open view towards Western democracy and capitalism, emphasizing the importance of leaving dogmatism behind to seek truth among facts.

The last chapter was dedicated to the primary issues threatening the future of America. The first and most important point he noted was the disintegration of the family. He also went on to talk about the drug crisis and spiritual crisis. I highlight the main points below:

1. Individualism is valued above the family.
Even within the family, the individual takes priority over the family as a whole. Husband and wife maintain private lives from each other, something not common in China, and the privacy of the parent and child is maintained over a cohesive and shared environment between all. An example of this today is the child adopting a completely unique identity in school, protected by liberal teachers. Another example, in the opposite direction and specifically noted by him, is keeping babies in different rooms as early as possible, for parents to maintain their own independence.

2. Children are encouraged to be independent and leave home as early as possible while maintaining little bonds with parents. As a consequence, many old people remain alone and subject to seek elderly care from outside of the family.

3. Aside from very rich families, families tend to not care who their child dates or marries.
In fact, the families are expected to not have any say in this.

4. The loose family structure has also resulted in what he called "stray youth."
These youth do not participate in larger family problems and tend not to feel an obligation to take part in resolving familial issues. The comfort of the individual is exalted over duties towards family. For this, they become strays without any organic ties to the world.

5. Drugs. Not much to say. We all know what this issue is. China broke away from it's drug issues. America is still stuck in it and everyone is in denial.

6. Hypersexuality and feminism.
Wang ties these two phenomena to the American disconnect from its own Western heritage, specifically classical literature, music, and other long-standing and historic developments of culture. He notes that the diversity and inclusion project can't cope with the reality that Western classics which defined the trajectory of Western culture are largely creations of men, for better or worse. To better integrate women, classics have to be rejected. Further, happiness is found through immediate carnal gratification and relaxation. Because people have sex much earlier in their lives compared to people in China, and without any commitments, the emotion of love becomes indifferent and alienated.

He goes on to cite other specific issues regarding homelessness, gangs, as well as Black and Indigenous struggle. The book was released in 1991 and since then, things have become far worse than any observations he made.
Thats good, thats from 1991 though, I wonder how their government and population feels about America right now, is there a hate? This guy made good observations, Im sure he also took some stuff back to China to bootleg on his way home😁

What baffles me is he saw all this happening in America yet China leaders are atheist and they selling American ideas and culture that they stole and copied to the world, ideas they are against, so where is their moral high ground?

Do we have someone from the west who did the exact same study of China? Would be interesting to see their findings.

There are many things I can appreciate about the Chinese people, Im not against them, my grandfather always used to tell me that as soon as a baby is born in China they tell them the following "You must work and you cant live off other people" there are a lot of rude dirty people there, Iv engaged with them here in my country, they live for money and they have no manners etc but there are also some higher class Chinese, theres a Chinese business owner down the road from me, they sell all the usual cheap Chinese crap but really nice people, they are Christian though, very well dressed very good manners and they actually turn down money all the time, they give me discounts all the time and actually give me money back in my hand, they give my children free things sometimes, they show interest in our personal lives and we talk about things outside of their business, they allow me to return products that Im not satisfied with, without an invoice or anything, but accross the road from them there is a Chinese takeaway and they are totally different, no manners, etc, they dont seem Christian though.
 
FYI Chinese people love Rhino horns, they use it to get erections and apparently for other things too, Im starting to think they allowed South Africa to join BRICS because we have the main ingredient for their boners🤣
 
China's lockdown measures were some of the harshest on the planet, and something like between 60% to 90% of all western expats left the country between 2020 and 2022. Very few desired to return afterwards...
This when the Chinese government purposely invented Covid-19 as a bio-weapon in a lab in Wuhan and attacked the US with it thus also releasing it onto its own citizenry who they mercilessly survail. All you need to know about China is don't go there. They smoke and spit in elevators. Sh*t in the street. Let women get beat by their husbands in McDonalds in front of 50 people and nobody intervenes or says a word (true story), walk over dead people in the street and nobody stops to see if the body is breathing or alive (true story), they are just atheist money grubbing jew-like animals with not one ounce of creativity in their beings which is why they have to steal all their ideas from the US.
The Chinese attacked us five years ago with the "fake" covid virus out of Wuhan that the jew Dean "Koontz" (who now claims to be Catholic) predictive programmed us with in his 1981 book The Eyes Of Darkness calling it the "Wuhan-400" virus (but don't believe your lying eyes on that one).
It is true that this virus was just a "strong flu" and not anywhere near as bad as (((they))) said it was. Covid-19 was just a shot over the bow test run by the jew controlled Chinese governnent, part "amplified" (i.e. weaponized) virus, part psy-op. It was a test run to check effectiveness of bio-weapons delivery systems on a mass scale and to check American's level of love for "freedom" and how quickly they would abandon this so-called freedom for compliance. The vax rollout was the third prong of the attack and ready to go years in advance which is why (((they))) were able to "invent" it out of thin air and roll it out so quickly.
 
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