Even if average genetics will decline in USA that scenario will not happen because all the technological innovations happen from a small pool of talented people. There will still always be enough white high IQ scientists and engineers and programmers in USA to keep inventing things needed to keep the military advanced provided the budget is there.
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In 50 years? Maybe, maybe not, but 150 IQ people don't grow on trees, and it takes more than just a few to advance technology, much less finding these rare gems with DEI making sure to keep them out of any opportunity. The trajectory is already there, and unless something major alters the trajectory, the Chinese will just become the superior nation and only superpower, with no one to stop them.
Also not talked about was the Taiwanese general revulsion to the KMT when they first came across the straight. At that time, the Taiwanese had essentially been Japanese for half a century. They had all the modern infrastructure that could be found in Tokyo. So when the Chinese started flooding across fleeing the communists, the Taiwanese weren't at all thrilled. But of course the KMT was more than thilled; They got to inherit things like sanitation, electricity and transport.
I have a lot of family in Taiwan through my wife's father. They all wish the Japs had never left. But they have been busy rewriting history to the point that young people are more likely to believe a school textbook than their own 100 year old grandpa yelling in Japanese about killing commies.
Weren't the Taiwanese looked down upon by the Japanese though?
The new textbooks under the DPP already preach an independent perspective, separating Taiwanese history from the mainland, even though there isn't much history to write about in Taiwan, while the older KMT textbooks emphasized Chinese history.
The new textbooks under the DPP already preach an independent perspective, separating Taiwanese history from the mainland, even though there isn't much history to write about in Taiwan, while the older KMT textbooks emphasized Chinese history.
The KMT line is that they are the preserver and true continuation of the 5000 years of Chinese civilization while the CCP are the ones that tried to destroy all of that in order to start with a clean slate from year zero. There's a big amount of resistance in Taiwan to that especially from the younger generations. It's why you see there's an attempt to create a new Taiwanese identity that is separate from Chinese identity and to even make it seem like Taiwanese and Chinese are two different ethnicities. If you want to think about how silly this is, it would be as if people started saying North Korean and South Korean were separate ethnic identities
As for Japan/Taiwan, Taiwanese are some of the biggest weeaboos that you'll see in the world. English and Japanese are the two most common second languages to learn in Taiwan. I think there was an incident a few years ago at some sort of sports tournament where after the Taiwanese team was eliminated and it came down to Japan vs China in the finals the Taiwanese actually cheered for the Japanese team over the Chinese team. I wouldn't be surprised if the Taiwanese population had to pick between been reunified with China or going back to being a Japanese colony that the majority of the population would pick the latter.
As for Japan/Taiwan, Taiwanese are some of the biggest weeaboos that you'll see in the world. English and Japanese are the two most common second languages to learn in Taiwan. I think there was an incident a few years ago at some sort of sports tournament where after the Taiwanese team was eliminated and it came down to Japan vs China in the finals the Taiwanese actually cheered for the Japanese team over the Chinese team. I wouldn't be surprised if the Taiwanese population had to pick between been reunified with China or going back to being a Japanese colony that the majority of the population would pick the latter.
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Caduceus
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The argument that the Taiwanese have a separate ethnicity and identity argument does have some merit, because of 2 factors
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Many Taiwanese have Japanese ancestry, and/or ancestry of the ancient native people of Taiwan (who were not Chinese).
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Those Taiwanese who descend only from Chinese mainlanders, almost always descend from the upper classes who were literate, educated and often owners of homes and/or land until 1949. To this day, Taiwanese use the traditional and original form of Chinese writing which mainlanders cannot read or write, and do not learn in school. Mao Zedong pushed hard to change mainland China over to simplified characters to get the illiterate lower classes to be able to read and write.
The concept of upper and lower classes being the same types of people is a 20th century concept which did not exist before the first Chinese republic of 1912.
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Uhhh.. South Africa anyone?
It will collapse very quickly when the incompetent people out number and out vote the competent people. Every metro area in the USA, or South Africa, all the same result and it happens very quickly.
I'm not so sure about 1. I know there's a trend of Taiwanese claiming to have aboriginal ancestry but as far as I've seen it's mostly more for ideological reasons because there is that trend of wanting to have a separate Taiwanese identity and also because they think it makes them seem cool and exotic. It's a bit similar to the trend you see in US of people saying they had a great great grand mother that was Cherokee. As for the Japanese mix, even though Taiwan was a Japanese colony for half a century and there was a big effort to culturally turn the Taiwanese into Japanese (I recall seeing in a museum once some posters that were given to Taiwanese families that had learned Japanese that they could post on their house and would entitle them to extra benefits) I don't think there was ever a big amount of Japanese migration to Taiwan besides the people going there to administrate the island let along large amounts of inter-marriages between the two groups. I could totally be wrong about this though so I'm not super wedded to this position.
As for 2, you are right there was a big migration of upper and middle class people (the main supporters of the KMT back in mainland China) to Taiwan but there was already centuries of people immigrating to Taiwan from China prior to that, mostly from Fujian province and other parts of southeast China. The language/dialect that is referred to as "Taiwanese" didn't even actually originate in Taiwan but is instead a dialect known as Hokkien/minanhua that originated in southeast China. You actually can hear it other parts of Asia outside of Taiwanese that had lots of immigration from southeast China. That's why I think it's pretty silly to see some of these Taiwanese ethnic identity people refuse to use Mandarin and instead use Taiwanese/Hokkien since these are both of Chinese origin so it doesn't do much for their case of how they aren't part of Chinese culture.
For sure some would have been. But others not at all. The Japanese had been in that part of the ocean for a long, long time. The native Taiwanese people are more related to Okinawans or even perhaps other islanders like the Maori. The Japanese were just busy building the logical last post of their chain of islands, and one with pretty good people who had similar goals to the Japanese.
It's worth mentioning that the Japanese treated Japanese people who broke customs or were just plain old criminal in just as harsh of a way as they would have their colonies. There were certainly nasty happenings on their mission to give the region sanitation.
When the KMT fled to Taiwan, many of the soldiers who came over were peasants. I've heard stories from elders talking about how at first the Taiwanese felt sorry for them, gave them food and shoes and places to sleep. But quickly they came to regret it as they started pushing the native Taiwanese around.
For the most part, the immigrants to Taiwan was a trickle of Fujian people until after ww2, when immigration was a flood.
This is the real advancement in their healthcare system, more so than the ceiling track delivery system, efficient and cheap. They run their healthcare system like their high-performing auto or cellphone companies.
The CCP propaganda arm pays foreign influencers and actors to manufacture these silly videos. In return for a significant amount of shekels they are required to say a few scripted lines and get placed in a scripted setting surrounded by other actors. It's a well known formula and it has been going on for years. Gives a peak preview in the Chinese inferiority complex: to convey a message a handsome young White American man gets picked over native English speaking Asians any day of the week.
Chances are a camera team will run into this fella in Chongqing whilst he mantrically and with dead glazy eyes drums up his lines. He'd be in good company: PPPeter, Drew Binsky and Bald and Bankrupt all went before him. I am willing to take bets on whether Ishowspeed will also turn up in Chongqing.
Video made by Serpentza ripped by a Chinese spokesperson. Hilarious stuff.
Trying to frame a plain healthcare system as a W is peak Chang-splaining. Walking into a hospital and getting to see a doctor and getting in part reimbursed due to health insurance is hardly a novelty, even in places like The Philippines, Mexico or Brazil. That's the entire world you just described.
The Chinese public healthcare system is miles behind its European counterparts. Chinese hospitals are crowded and dirty, doctors overworked, basic medical etiquette often missing and more advanced equipment not available. The Chinese healthcare system suffers from a bad image due to the many scandals and cover ups in the recent past. Any Chinese with some money to spend will instead go to private clinics in the T1 and T2 cities where Western educated doctors take their time for you and much of the equipment is state of the art.
In China health insurance only covers part of the medical bill, depending on package and rates. Those who do not have insurance nor aren't fully covered will have to pay out of pocket. Those who do not have enough money in the pocket or on the Weixin app get their IV yanked out, wheeled towards the emergency exit and dumped on the side of the street.
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None of that can possible be true I saw on social media they have robots on the ceiling....
Caduceus
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That's exactly the same as the USA.
Except the medical expenses in the US would be 10x-25x higher. And health insurance, if you're not covered at work, is pretty expensive in the US, and getting more expensive every year, and God forbid you or a member of your family gets sick or has an accident without medical insurance, 550,000 bankruptcies annually due to healthcare costs, and 15% of Americans have medical debt.
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Yeah, because CHYNA is a commie dystopia and anyone who claims otherwise is a 50cent CCP shill - this BS in 2025 does still work on the more naive neocon-leaning normies in the West, those like you who in 2025 still think that Zelensky is a hero and the Russians are losing in Ukraine.
In fact the opposite is true, it is people like Serpentza and his ilk on the same groove that are on the receiving end of the $1.6 billion annual anti-China propaganda boondoggle and are pushing fake BBC-style dystopian coverage on China.
There is nothing about that experience of that guy I posted above at the hospital in China that is different from that of many, many other western expats in China whose content is clearly organic. Here is an example of a vlogger with a grand total of 800 subs who blogs about her travels in China, Malaysia, Mexico, her experience is similar to the one posted above:
British expat in Shanghai takes his ailing father to a local hospital, they do a proper diagnosis of his case, which he hadn't been able to have properly done back home, where he has to wait over 6 months for an MRI - done the same day in China, at a low cost even without insurance:
American young woman married to a Chinese man living in Wuhan who vlogs mainly short vids about her daily life in China with a focus on food, family life etc, she describes her hospital visits, the different healthcare options available, and her childbirth process:
I would trade their system in a heartbeat for that in Canada, France, UK, Germany where services are rationed and you will have to wait months if not years to see a specialist, and hours to get served in emergency rooms. It's the equivalent of trying to buy a slab of beef in the USSR. All these healthcare systems have been gradually eroding, with government cutbacks and these countries being raped and plundered by Blackrock et al. Only a handful of European countries like Switzerland still have top-notch healthcare systems.
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Serpentza-level NAFO propaganda. In 2025, Chinese streets, parks, subways, malls are much cleaner than their counterparts in London, Paris, NY etc, but somehow their hospitals, most of which are new, are dirty???
When is the last time you've been to China?
Have you ever been to China?
Imagine that, travel blog goes to Chongqing and shows all the very same main tourist attractions, wow, CCP propaganda!!
95% of Chinese people have health insurance, as of 2020, I would imagine the rate is higher today.
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My little boy had to wait 2.5 years to see a specialist here in wonderful kangaroo land and unfortunately it was too late to fix the issue he had so he'll have to deal with it the rest of his life. Disgraceful. I'd much rather take the Chinese system over the corrupt (if you're unvaccinated) kangaroo one.