The China Thread

[Caduceus]

BNO HKers going back home and getting the used condom treatment after drinking the kool aid.



Meanwhile UK Prime Minister visits Chyna and their people will get visa free and some deals. Last visit was 8 years ago.

The British Labour party has been close friends of the communists for over 100 years since the 1920s...nothing new there.

The variation to the BNO visa scheme to come to the UK permanently was put in place in 2019 when the conservatives were in power.
It's hard to say how many actually Hong Konger's actually came over to the UK and how many have actually returned....as the UK government doesn't often publish official numbers. I seem to remember something like 7 million native Hong Konger's were eligible. After 5 or 6 years they can get UK citizenship and it's more likely they'll move again once they get their new British passport, and go somewhere else with better salaries like Singapore or Taiwan, rather than return to Hong Kong. The simple fact that the Chinese government did not ask the UK for this scheme to be abolished during the most recent talks says a lot about where things really stand.

As for the visa free entry to China for Brits...this will not help the economic situation if China still forces all tourists to download (and officially register with) local Chinese smartphone payment apps, instead of being able to pay for things with cash and western credit cards, like they were able to before 2020. No other country in the world forces all tourists to pay for absolutely everything with smartphones...not even North Korea. This simple fact in itself, is what's preventing more tourists going to China, not the visa issues.

 

[Caduceus]

Incredible how they keep on engagement baiting you guys.

Not sure anyone was actually fooled by this, except for a few uniformed people online.

 

[Cooper]

Apparently they did a coup at the Forbidden City! All while the UK PM visited. Incredible how they keep on engagement baiting you guys.

biG iF tRuE!!

 

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

It wasn't a coup, it was just some retired folks storming the castle for the freebies Marx and Mao promised them.

Elderly Chinese toilet paper thieves face up to their crimes

Some public toilets in Beijing are using facial recognition technology to stop toilet paper theft, South China Morning Post reports.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Cooper]

^2017?

Also, if your leading crime story is about geriatric TP theft, you're doing fairly well in the crime department...

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

It's suspicious how little coverage these espionage cases get, there are at least several cases a week and it doesn't even hit the surface on the fringes. Chang spies were stealing Google AI and tech secrets for years and got caught. Jury found that the Chinese spy stole trade secrets related to the hardware infrastructure and software platforms that allow Google’s supercomputing data center to train and serve large AI models. Something to remember when the next wumao tries to sell ripped US intellectual property as further proof of Chinese tech supremacy ot whatever.

 

[eradicator]

 

[expectation]

The British Labour party has been close friends of the communists for over 100 years since the 1920s...nothing new there.

The variation to the BNO visa scheme to come to the UK permanently was put in place in 2019 when the conservatives were in power.
It's hard to say how many actually Hong Konger's actually came over to the UK and how many have actually returned....as the UK government doesn't often publish official numbers. I seem to remember something like 7 million native Hong Konger's were eligible. After 5 or 6 years they can get UK citizenship and it's more likely they'll move again once they get their new British passport, and go somewhere else with better salaries like Singapore or Taiwan, rather than return to Hong Kong. The simple fact that the Chinese government did not ask the UK for this scheme to be abolished during the most recent talks says a lot about where things really stand.

As for the visa free entry to China for Brits...this will not help the economic situation if China still forces all tourists to download (and officially register with) local Chinese smartphone payment apps, instead of being able to pay for things with cash and western credit cards, like they were able to before 2020. No other country in the world forces all tourists to pay for absolutely everything with smartphones...not even North Korea. This simple fact in itself, is what's preventing more tourists going to China, not the visa issues.

They're leaving after the Brits imposed English + Income requirements for UK citizenships which Lauren failed to mention. Not sure where you got Singapore or Taiwan from when there is a survey that said 13% to HK and 15% to another country. 7 million is the entire population of Hong Kong - obviously haven't depopulated significantly but they sure don't mind gusanos leaving.



China has made a recovery back 2019 tourism numbers and is 4th globally on Wiki (Wiki includes Hong Kong travelers so its inflated). Just because you or LAN can't figure out how to use vpn doesn't mean the rest of the world can't. I included capacity numbers index to 2019 (Pre-Covid) from OAG and Forwardkeys for those that don't trust Chinese data.

 

[expectation]

Not sure anyone was actually fooled by this, except for a few uniformed people online.

Yet many are still fooled by the Social Credit Score - you'll still get a lot of mentions if you do a thread search.

 

[expectation]

It's suspicious how little coverage these espionage cases get, there are at least several cases a week and it doesn't even hit the surface on the fringes. Chang spies were stealing Google AI and tech secrets for years and got caught. Jury found that the Chinese spy stole trade secrets related to the hardware infrastructure and software platforms that allow Google’s supercomputing data center to train and serve large AI models. Something to remember when the next wumao tries to sell ripped US intellectual property as further proof of Chinese tech supremacy ot whatever.

Because your companies hire them for AI work because you can't find anyone capable of math. So you have too many of them!

 

[Caduceus]

They're leaving after the Brits imposed English + Income requirements for UK citizenships which Lauren failed to mention. Not sure where you got Singapore or Taiwan from when there is a survey that said 13% to HK and 15% to another country. 7 million is the entire population of Hong Kong - obviously haven't depopulated significantly but they sure don't mind gusanos leaving.

The requirement to speak some basic English to get British citizenship has existed for over 20 years, so that's nothing new. The income requirement is new, and I believe it's not been approved yet, so those Hong Konger's that migrated in 2020 and 2021, can still get citizenship this year without it.

there is a survey that said 13% to HK and 15% to another country.

That survey is based on less than 2000 people, so is unreliable as those who left Hong Kong are over 100,000 at a bare minimum . More to the point, if you were an anti government dissident in Hong Kong before 2020, I hardly think you would participate in such a survey. Also, China has been replacing native (pre 1997) Hong Konger's with mainlanders at a furious pace since 2020, so the current population numbers of Hong Kong, is a poor measurement of how many pre 1997 natives actually have left.

China has made a recovery back 2019 tourism numbers and is 4th globally (Wiki includes Hong Kong travelers). Just because you or LAN can't figure out how to use vpn doesn't mean the rest of the world can't.

You need to exclude Hong Kong and Macau to see true tourism numbers, as both these areas still have their own currencies and also still accept cash and western credit cards.

Not sure what using a VPN has to do with being forced to use Chinese apps to pay for everything. VPN or not, you are still forced to pay for everything with a smartphone on the mainland.