The China Thread

[Cooper]

@Cooper
@Read_Lives_of_Saints

While there's nothing wrong with posting some influencer's videos on China and commenting their content, clogging this thread with arguments about their personal lives is.
I moved Your posts to the recently created "influencer compendium" thread where You can dissect their lives as much as You want to.

My post was fairly short and on point, here it is again summarized:

Serpentza and his sidekick lie most of the time, here is an example, where they state that only the top 1% of Chinese travel abroad.:



In fact it's a much higher percentage, around 12%;

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Chinese international tourism is booming, with 145.9 million trips made in 2024, nearing pre-pandemic levels (155M in 2019) and expected to surpass them soon, with Asia (Thailand, Japan, Korea) being top destinations, though China itself is also a major destination for international arrivals.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

Some Chinese official having a hissy fit in a Paris salon is your proof that the Chinese government has "bought and wormed itself into every layer of politics"??

Coopy just waffles on endlessly, as always parroting lowbrow Chang victimhood propaganda. This time through playing dumb and emotional appeals at innocence, meanwhile CCP assets literally get caught with their hands in the cookie jar at least once a week. Latest story: CCP agent Linda Sun is about to be put away, this subversive received over 18 million USD from Chinese communists to influence US politics. By her own accounts she was very successful at it too, and called NY governor Hochul 'obedient'.

18 million USD for a single foreign CCP asset, meanwhile half the Chang population lives of the equivalent of 380 USD or less. Goes to show how much importance the Chicoms attach to these kind of subversion/ infiltration/ influence ops. Their levers reach beyond seeding foreign agents, there probably isn't a single US Senator and/or billionaire that isn't heavily invested in and tied to the Chinese economy.

 

[Cooper]

Fear not Cooper. Western Intelligence agencies are ramping up the cyber and counter espionage plans against yellows. Giving training to companies and public institutions.

Still it wont change the faggot and climate change cancer affecting western societies. China doesn´t have to do anything to win. Just wait and look at the west rot.

They're doing a whole lot, in terms of scaling up their industry, moving up the value chain, boosting their education levels, R&D etc.

They're not so good at the kind of faggotry involving color revolutions, multibillion NGO constellations, media takeovers or elite grooming all over the world.

I´m expecting cyber attacks during 2026. False flags. But cyber attacks will probably happen.

Bataclan, 9/11, Bondi, Gladio etc, there will always be false flags but here again you're looking at the wrong end of Asia when it comes to the source of all that.

 

[Cooper]

Coopy just waffles on endlessly, as always parroting lowbrow Chang victimhood propaganda. This time through playing dumb and emotional appeals at innocence, meanwhile CCP assets literally get caught with their hands in the cookie jar at least once a week. Latest story: CCP agent Linda Sun is about to be put away, this subversive received over 18 million USD from Chinese communists to influence US politics. By her own accounts she was very successful at it too, and called NY governor Hochul 'obedient'.

18 million USD for a single foreign CCP asset, meanwhile half the Chang population lives of the equivalent of 380 USD or less. Goes to show how much importance the Chicoms attach to these kind of subversion/ infiltration/ influence ops. Their levers reach beyond seeding foreign agents, there probably isn't a single US Senator and/or billionaire that isn't heavily invested in and tied to the Chinese economy.

You can find some links in a few cases, like with Diane Feinstein's driver or McConnell's wife, but extrapolating to the whole Congress and portraying China as having anywhere near the influence of AIPAC is highly disingenuous to say the least.

Even in a place like San Francisco, ground zero for Chinese influence in the US, you have local political kingpin Nancy Pelosi going out of her way to antagonize China by travelling to Taiwan and being openly hostile to China.

 

[Eagle3]

Some Chinese official having a hissy fit in a Paris salon is your proof that the Chinese government has "bought and wormed itself into every layer of politics"??

What proof do you want? The condom that Chinese spy Fang Fang used when she was spreading her legs for Rep. Eric Swalwell?

 

[magoo]

They're doing a whole lot, in terms of scaling up their industry, moving up the value chain, boosting their education levels, R&D etc.

By scaling you mean copying western tech and design.

7 Chinese cars that are straight-up clones of their Western counterparts - Motorburn

“Made in Chinaâ€. It’s a phrase that still bears a hefty stigma – rightfully so or not. Yes, many Westerners still feel that the...

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China can´t produce shit. Cause communism is by nature limited.

They're not so good at the kind of faggotry involving color revolutions, multibillion NGO constellations, media takeovers or elite grooming.

They are. China is a totalitarian state. Where every movement of it´s citizens are tracked and analyzed. China is the fucked up model the elite wants to implement in west. Cause China is a country made out of subservient slaves. Chinese have average IQ. Very smart and goal oriented. And they work. They don´t only cheat. They work also. 24h 7 days a week. 365 days. The manufacturing capacity of China is unparalleled.

Chinese elite splurge in west. And chinese peasant works his ass off. The poorest in west has no comparison with the poorest in China. Still they don´t revolt.

Every chinese is a potential spy. Cause if an order comes from China they have to obey. It´s an offer they can´t refuse. The paradigm is completely different. And hard to understand to a common westerner.

Bataclan, 9/11, Bondi, Gladio etc, there will always be false flags but here again you're looking at the wrong end of Asia when it comes to the source of all that.

Americans directed/with by Israel are the ones behind all attacks. In Europe whenever theres a terror attack nobody believes it´s muslims. They are too dumb. Everybody knows it´s US and Israel orchestrating it. With collaboration or look away of european intelligence.

Migration I think China and Russia have dirty fingers.

But it seems now americans have a new toy: China.

This is what xijiping managed. To destroy china reputation in less than a decade. West good will is gone. We will probably enter a cold war soon. Which sucks.

 

[Cooper]

'A few links in a few cases', man's properly cooked and in full on denial mode. Also note that whilst Coopy is copy-pasting his cope takes the US still hasn't found the courage to put on the brakes and is to this day is intentionally getting cannibalized by a hostile communist state overseas which has infiltrated US critical infrastructure and political decisionmaking bodies in every layer and to its core. Biggest sting operation, probably ever. Judeo-bolshevist at its roots too and if the Venona Files and Mitrokhin Archives have taught anything it's that communist subversion is everywhere and that it needs to be stamped out by a figure like McCarthy.

Lil Coop truly is as loyal as a dog to that Party line, Xi bucks must be worth it. Literal self appointed fall guy even if he could have just shut up. Tldr: da CCP is innocent, da never ending lost of plots, assets and plays getting discovered proving the opposite 'don't matter' and da West Bad anyhow.

Instead of dumping on here your usual pile of personal attacks and vitriol, back up your statement above where you claimed that nearly all Senators are compromised by China, or just admit you are BSing as usual :

LaAguilaNegra said:
18 million USD for a single foreign CCP asset, meanwhile half the Chang population lives of the equivalent of 380 USD or less. Goes to show how much importance the Chicoms attach to these kind of subversion/ infiltration/ influence ops. Their levers reach beyond seeding foreign agents, there probably isn't a single US Senator and/or billionaire that isn't heavily invested in and tied to the Chinese economy.

 

[Cooper]

By scaling you mean copying western tech and design.

7 Chinese cars that are straight-up clones of their Western counterparts - Motorburn

“Made in Chinaâ€. It’s a phrase that still bears a hefty stigma – rightfully so or not. Yes, many Westerners still feel that the...

memeburn.com

China can´t produce shit. Cause communism is by nature limited.

...The manufacturing capacity of China is unparalleled.

Which one is it - they can't produce, but their manufacturing capacity is unparalleled?

Why is it that the Japanese can produce cars, but the Chinese can't? China has been eating Japan's lunch in the auto industry. BYD alone has 110,000 employees in its R&D department.



There are several hundreds carmakers in China, with well over 500 car models, the ones that are selling by the millions from the main brands aren't copies, just ask Ford's CEO.

Chinese elite splurge in west. And chinese peasant works his ass off. The poorest in west has no comparison with the poorest in China. Still they don´t revolt.

China has a long, long history of popular revolts. The reason they are not revolting now is that their lot has been constantly improving. Same as in Russia.

 

[Cooper]

What proof do you want? The condom that Chinese spy Fang Fang used when she was spreading her legs for Rep. Eric Swalwell?

Is there a Chinese AIPAC that has personal handlers for 99% of Congressmen?

If the Chinese had anywhere near the kind of influence you and LaNegra are ginning up here, why is US foreign policy so hostile to China?

 

[magoo]

Which one is it - they can't produce, but their manufacturing capacity is unparalleled?

A playing with words arent you?

Produce equals creating something from scratch.

Manufacture: assemble parts.

Lets see if you understand clearer:

iPhones are made in China. But created in US.

Will give it another try:

A house is conceived by engineers and architects. This what I means by produce.

Than its built by workers. This is what I mean by manufacture.

Why is it that the Japanese can produce cars, but the Chinese can't? China has been eating Japan's lunch in the auto industry. BYD alone has 110,000 employees in its R&D department.

BYD r&d is espionage.

There are several hundreds carmakers in China, with well over 500 car models, the ones that are selling by the millions from the main brands aren't copies, just ask Ford's CEO.

So why are they buying european carmakers?
Deals facilitated by jews.

China has a long, long history of popular revolts. The reason they are not revolting now is that their lot has been constantly improving. Same as in Russia.

russians were living like medieval peasants during Stalin. Same for chinese with Mao. Both these countries have slave mentality.

 

[magoo]

Is there a Chinese AIPAC that has personal handlers for 99% of Congressmen?

If the Chinese had anywhere near the kind of influence you and LaNegra are ginning up here, why is US foreign policy so hostile to China?

Chinese are not so bragadocious like jews. Jews lost all shame. And treat americans like employees.

China is more subtle. Even though you cant really blame the yellows. They just explored the lunacy of western elites.

Jews and chinese were working together but it seems chinese want to subdue jews also.

Golf countries are also buying influence. West is for sale.

You are deflecting to jews.

Chinese are greedy like jews and dont understand theyve overplayed their hand. They operate more at an economic level. Not like Jews more at political. Israel also doesn’t have the market China has.

 

[Cooper]

A playing with words arent you?
Produce equals creating something from scratch.
Manufacture: assemble parts.
Lets see if you understand clearer:
iPhones are made in China. But created in US.

Asians, mostly of Chinese backgrounds, have dominated the chip industry and Silicon Valley design and R&D for decades now. Look at the student profile from feeder schools like CalTech, Berkeley, Stanford, MIT etc. That's how TSMC, the world's premier chip manufacturer, ended up in Taiwan. See also Nvidia and its founder.

The Chinese did learn from firms like Tesla or Apple through shrewd tech transfers in exchange for access to their local market, but they're no longer behind, in fact they are ahead in most key technologies today, which they couldn't possibly be if they were only mentally capable of copying.

So why are they buying european carmakers?
Deals facilitated by jews.

Access to markets. They're also opening big plants in the EU (Spain, Hungary etc)

russians were living like medieval peasants during Stalin. Same for chinese with Mao. Both these countries have slave mentality.

Your president is Macron, has been for nearly a decade, bludgeoning Gilets Jaunes protestors into submission and robbing the country on behalf of his bankster owners. Same crap in Germany, UK, economies imploding under the worst kakistocracies in European history - who are the slaves here?

While in Russia and China, things are improving every year, people getting wealthier, and no woke cultural pollution. Say what you want about Putin or Xi, but there is no one above them and they are working for their country, as opposed to Blackrock's Merz or Rothschilds' Macron just to name a couple.

 

[Cooper]

Chinese are not so bragadocious like jews. Jews lost all shame. And treat americans like employees.
China is more subtle. Even though you cant really blame the yellows. They just explored the lunacy of western elites.
Jews and chinese were working together but it seems chinese want to subdue jews also.
Golf countries are also buying influence. West is for sale.
You are deflecting to jews.
Chinese are greedy like jews and dont understand theyve overplayed their hand. They operate more at an economic level. Not like Jews more at political. Israel also doesn’t have the market China has.

We are in a classic Thucydides Trap moment. The Chinese strategy is to avoid armed conflict but to prepare for it. They have already dissuaded the US from getting into a kinetic conflict over Taiwan. US counterstrategy is now to deny Chinese access to Venezuela and the western hemisphere, then to retake Africa, and to sow chaos in east Asia, which is China's backyard.

The Chinese have indeed been very skillful politically in some ways, like for instance maintaining influence over Trump through his main backer, the Adelsons, whose main income stream is from his Macau casinos.

 

[Cooper]

China haters need now worry, according to Peter Zeihan China will collapse within 10 years...

 

[magoo]

Asians, mostly of Chinese backgrounds, have dominated the chip industry and Silicon Valley design and R&D for decades now.

Chips were invented by westerners. While chinese were still doing communists retarded strategies and starving their populations to death.

Look at the student profile from feeder schools like CalTech, Berkeley, Stanford, MIT etc.

Those are people sending west tech to China.

That's how TSMC, the world's premier chip manufacturer, ended up in Taiwan. See also Nvidia and its founder.

Bullshit. Chips are made in Taiwan because it´s cheaper. West can obviously produce and manufacture much better than any yellow. It´s just much more expensive. Due to environmental and woke regulations. You are manipulating and lying.

The Chinese did learn from firms like Tesla or Apple through shrewd tech transfers in exchange for access to their local market, but they're no longer behind, in fact they are ahead in most key technologies today, which they couldn't possibly be if they were only mentally capable of copying.

Men the only tech yellows have is the ones they steal or is transferred by chinese students in western unis.

Access to markets. They're also opening big plants in the EU (Spain, Hungary etc)

Bullshit. They wanted to access know how. Rotshchilds sold Volvo to China (that Rothschild died of heart attack 2021). Granted at that time China pretended to be harmless.

Your president is Macron, has been for nearly a decade, bludgeoning Gilets Jaunes protestors into submission and robbing the country on behalf of his bankster owners. Same crap in Germany, UK, economies imploding under the worst kakistocracies in European history - who are the slaves here?

Chinese are still migrating to those kakistocracies through smugglers etc. It´s not only muslims. Chinese also enters illegaly to many western countries. You are creating an illusion. Which is totally disconnected to reality. Chinese want to leave China to west because of stability of law. China is a lawless place. Where people are slaves.

While in Russia and China, things are improving every year, people getting wealthier, and no woke cultural pollution. Say what you want about Putin or Xi, but there is no one above them and they are working for their country, as opposed to Blackrock's Merz or Rothschilds' Macron just to name a couple.

Russia and China are improving from communism. Anything is better than the most retarded ideology created by men: Communism. You are improving from zero. That´s not much.

Chinese overplayed their hand with Xijiping. He is an autistic fool. China was going in the right direction. But that greedy fuck destroyed China image in less than 10 years. And now comes the payback. This is not something which will happen. It´s already happening.

 

[magoo]

China haters need now worry, according to Peter Zeihan China will collapse within 10 years...

Only a idiot would want China to collapse. The way it´s real estate is melting down. It might. Due to sheer autistic lunacy of Xijiping.

China could be a counter balance to US. Taking advantage of the errors of US hubris. But nope. It´s worse. Only deluded people can think China has an alternative to US. Even with their gay embassy flags.

 

[magoo]

We are in a classic Thucydides Trap moment. The Chinese strategy is to avoid armed conflict but to prepare for it. They have already dissuaded the US from getting into a kinetic conflict over Taiwan. US counterstrategy is now to deny Chinese access to Venezuela and the western hemisphere, then to retake Africa, and to sow chaos in east Asia, which is China's backyard.

The Chinese have indeed been very skillful politically in some ways, like for instance maintaining influence over Trump through his main backer, the Adelsons, whose main income stream is from his Macau casinos.

No. China is a child. Chinese mannerism are of infants. They have an incredible manufacturing capacity and are slaves. They work like crazy. And because they have money they believe westerners fall for their tricks. Unless with jewish guiding they wouldn´t have lasted this far. The thing was China went unnoticed. They were stealing tech and enriching at the back of west companies demise and nobody cared. But Xijiping surprisingly changed that. And now west is gearing up towards China. Which is a shame since collaboration should have been possible. I don´t think this boat can change course. For the chinese living in west the next years might be challenging.

Chinese have many qualities. Incredible work ethic. But they need to focus on creating a great country for themselves. Based on their culture and history. And not wanting to prove they are better than westerners. Nobody gives a shit about chinese. And until Xijiping and covid happened China was building a good reputation. There was always the story chinese were hardworking. Like ants. Even though that wasn´t true. They are hardworking people with a gipsy mentality.

Most likely China will surpass the west due to west own fault. But this doesn´t make China great. It just makes the west suck.

One thing is certain if I could go back in time. When visiting China I would have gone to chinese countryside. Cause the cities were communist ugly.

 

[Cooper]

Quick reply re: Chinese tech and production - they developed mass production and advanced tech for their time, like mass production of crossbows with standardized parts, on their own. That technological mastery is why the Han Chinese dominated east Asia for millennia.

We developed mass production and metallurgy on our own in parallel, mostly through the Benedictine monks in the middle ages, who set up a large network of modern water-powered plants across western Europe and whose motto was "ora et labora", pray and work. They introduced a work ethic to the Germanic tribes, who previously were hunter gatherers.

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Chinese crossbow production was a sophisticated state-run industry, especially during the Han Dynasty, focusing on mass-producing powerful, accurate weapons with advanced bronze trigger mechanisms and varied wooden/composite stocks, creating standard military equipment used in massive numbers for infantry volleys, evolving to include repeating crossbows (Chu Ko Nu) and complex composite prods from bamboo, wood, and animal sinew/horn for superior power and range.
Key Aspects of Production

• Mass Production & State Control: Crossbows were central to the Han military, mass-produced in state arsenals, indicating a highly organized system.
• Advanced Trigger Mechanisms: Bronze was crucial for the complex, precise triggers, allowing for high draw weights and accurate release, a hallmark of Chinese crossbows.
• Material Variety: Production used regional materials, including laminated bamboo, elm, and composite prods (wood, horn, sinew) for elasticity, with horn more common in the North and bamboo in the South.
• Specialized Craftsmen: Bronze triggers were cast by specialists, then sent to woodworkers for assembly onto stocks, involving many steps and skilled labor.
• Standardization & Distribution: Arsenals produced components in batches, with triggers sometimes inscribed and stored, then distributed to equip large armies.

Technological Innovations

• Composite Bows: Prods (bows) were often composites of wood, bamboo, horn (inner side), and sinew (outer side), bonded with animal glue for extreme power, requiring over 100 procedures.
• Repeating Crossbows (Chu Ko Nu): These featured a magazine (hopper) for bolts and a lever system to automatically reload and fire, allowing for rapid volleys, though often less powerful than single-shot versions.
• High Draw Weights: Even basic Han crossbows required soldiers to pull significant weight (around 76kg/168lb).

Advanced design and production is engrained in Chinese culture and history. You have to go beyond cultural clichés.