The China Thread

[Caduceus]

Taiwan is embarking into late-stage globohomo culture, with the normalisation of LGBT agendas, Taiwan is slowly drifting into western-style cultural marxism.

Taiwanese universities now offering majors in gender studies

https://gender.nknu.edu.tw/gigeweb/E1.htm

Taiwan has the largest "Pride" event in all of Asia, with 200,000 people. Rainbow flags all over their national monument...

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taiwans-increasingly-political-drag-race-queen-wows-fans-home-stage-2024-05-26/

Taiwan is the classic globohomo colonial outpost.


AI Overview

In Taiwan, the "Gender Equity Education Act" mandates that schools integrate gender equality education, including "affective education, sex education, and gay and lesbian education," into their curricula, aiming to promote respect for gender diversity and eliminate discrimination.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Mandate for Gender Equality Education:
  The Gender Equity Education Act requires schools to develop curricula that cover gender equality education, ensuring all curricula comply with the principles of gender equality.
  
  
• Curriculum Content:
  The act specifies that gender equality education curricula should cover "affective education, sex education, and gay and lesbian education".
  
  
• Teacher Role:
  All teachers are expected to maintain gender equality consciousness and encourage students to explore fields outside traditional gender roles.
  
  
• Focus on Respect and Diversity:
  The goal is to teach students respect for gender diversity and eliminate gender discrimination.
  
  
• Addressing Concerns:
  While the policy aims to promote inclusivity, some educators have received complaints from parents who fear that teaching about LGBT rights might influence their children's identities.
  
  
• SOGI Curriculum:
  The Ministry of Education has introduced SOGI (Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity) curriculum into schools [3].
• Teacher Training:
  However, some teachers have expressed concerns about their preparedness to teach about sexual orientation and gender identity, highlighting the need for more training and resources.
  
  
• Legalization of Same-Sex Marriage and its Impact:
  The legalization of same-sex marriage in Taiwan has sparked societal debate and led to the development of teaching modules in medical curricula to address these issues.
  
  
• Holistic Sexuality Education:
  Some advocate for a more comprehensive and holistic approach to sexuality education, including LGBTQ+ issues, to address societal problems and promote understanding.

Not disputing any of this.
Modern Taiwan is going in the wrong direction for sure with the faggot nonsense..

However, I visited both mainland China AND Taiwan quite a few times.....and they really are 2 different types of people.
Taiwanese are a lot more quiet, reserved and educated....streets are cleaner, and everything is a lot less chaotic.
People don't spit on the street, parents don't let toddlers pee outdoors, and almost no one has arguments out in public.
Taiwan still uses the much more complicated traditional Hanzu Chinese writing, rather than the simplified one used on the mainland.
Also, a sizeable part of people in Taiwan have at least some Japanese ancestry as well as it was under Japanese control for 50 years from 1895 until 1945.

You can simply tell modern Taiwanese are mostly descended from the richer, educated, property owning, upper classes which used to live in mainland China, while those who stayed under the communists, were all the poorer lower class factory workers and farmers most of which could not read or write until after 1949.

It was almost a naturally occurring 100% class division which occurred from 1945 to 1949....and you can see the stark difference when travelling from Taiwan to the mainland or vice versa.

However, I will admit Taiwan needs to get rid of the globohomo faggot nonsense, or it will be their doom.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Don't make me clutter up another thread by posting the "arable land by percentage" again! Saying the Chinese want/need USA farmland is just not realistic at all. They don't think like you/the west, stop trying to project what you would do on them bro...(if you are indeed a bro and not some sort of bot that just replies with the same talking points, no matter the discussion)

They think this way; they are just slower to react. They were beaten to the punch. But given a second chance and no one to stop them, they are going to come take it.

 

[Cooper]

They think this way; they are just slower to react. They were beaten to the punch. But given a second chance and no one to stop them, they are going to come take it.

They can get what they need in agricultural products from places like Brazil, Argentina or Africa, whose production costs are lower and production is rising. These places have been modernizing their production methods with cheaper equipment, world agricultural prices are actually coming down, except for items like coffee or chocolate.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

They can get what they need in agricultural products from places like Brazil, Argentina or Africa, whose production costs are lower and production is rising. These places have been modernizing their production methods with cheaper equipment, world agricultural prices are actually coming down, except for items like coffee or chocolate.

Oh yea, South America's crop production has greatly increased over the last few decades due to advanced technology, which is dropping grain prices, which is hurting American farmers big time.

But valuable land is valuable land, why let a bunch of low IQ third worlder's squat on it forever? It will be after our lifetime, but the trajectory is pretty apparent.

 

[Cooper]

 

[Northern Pilgrim]

They think this way; they are just slower to react. They were beaten to the punch. But given a second chance and no one to stop them, they are going to come take it.

So looking at some acreage numbers from around the world. Top 10 are:

Most Arable Land by Country​

Country: Arable Land by Acres (2021)

US 389.8M
India 381.6M
Russia 300.6M
China. 269M
Brazil 143.9M
Argentina 104.3M
Canada 94.5M
Nigeria 91.1M
Ukraine 81.4M
Australia 77.3M

From https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/arable-land-by-country
According to this, the top 3 countries have more than the next 7 combined.

Quoted from the farming thread.

Also note that there is an entire ocean and a massive mountain range between the Chinese and all that US farmland. India is right next door, which one makes more sense to take over if we are just taking stuff from 3rd worlders?

How were they beaten to the punch? Chinese explorers have been sailing around way before Columbus but they weren't trying to conquer the entire world. Maybe they observed all of these empires that expanded rapidly, then got destroyed from the inside...
At any rate, this assertion that China is going to occupy all this US farmland by force is basically a "Boomer 2.0" talking point and does not make any logical sense.
Could it happen possibly on some timeline? I'll give you that, but it is incredibly unlikely given Chinese practicality.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Quoted from the farming thread.

Also note that there is an entire ocean and a massive mountain range between the Chinese and all that US farmland. India is right next door, which one makes more sense to take over if we are just taking stuff from 3rd worlders?

How were they beaten to the punch? Chinese explorers have been sailing around way before Columbus but they weren't trying to conquer the entire world. Maybe they observed all of these empires that expanded rapidly, then got destroyed from the inside...
At any rate, this assertion that China is going to occupy all this US farmland by force is basically a "Boomer 2.0" talking point and does not make any logical sense.
Could it happen possibly on some timeline? I'll give you that, but it is incredibly unlikely given Chinese practicality.

Oceans already mean nothing in 2025 much less in 2075, China is building fully drone operated aircraft carriers. India would probably offer larger resistance than the USA, based on IQ/demographics by 2075. Though, maybe China would take India as well, who knows how well India would hold up without being supplied by the USA. China has a long hatred of the west, whereas I don't see China going after Russia or India, at least not right away.

The strongest civilization always takes the land. My prediction is China will be a stronger civilization than the west is in 50 years due to mass immigration, feminism, and inverted advancement, mostly due to paying all the smart people to go into finance and not engineering. Thus, China will be able to take the land, just like the Europeans and their repeating rifles took it away from stone aged Natives 150 years ago.

And I am not saying this to say "China is our enemy". Our enemy is within and if we don't solve it, then this system is going to collapse from within. China is just the vulture waiting to pick the bones clean.

 

[expectation]

A retired Taiwanese Lt. Army General Gao Ankuo has been accused of organizing a pro-unification group to use drones for spying on Taiwan's military movements and transmitting information to mainland China a week ago.

He came from a line of KMT generals who moved to Taiwan following the Chinese Civil War, joining the Taiwanese Military before retiring in 2014. After retirement, he became vocal on social media advocating for Taiwan's unification with mainland China. Gao often clashed with "Taiwan Civil Government", a group funded by pro-Japanese businessmen advocating for Taiwan to become a US Colony. In response, Gao had organized the "Taiwan Military Government" where he organized retired military veterans would counter-protest against the Taiwan Civil Government group which eventually lead to a fraud investigation against the Civil Government Group.

Many retired Taiwanese military veterans, including Gao, has shown support for unification with mainland China, as their families historically has ties to the Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT). In the Podcast I linked, he highlights the KMT's ideology aligns with the unification of China, contrasting with the Democratic Progression Party (DPP), which supports Taiwanese Independence and further discusses this nuance in Taiwanese Politics.

The Taiwanese Military are also woefully unprepared for any conflict with China given low recruitment, shrinking non-commissioned officers corps and reliances on conscription. A situation worst than Ukraine.

Here we have a 100 year old retired Taiwan Army General pledging his support for unification.


17m Podcast that discusses Lt General Gao and the overall nuance of the Taiwanese Military retiree's support for Unification.

 

[Northern Pilgrim]

Oceans already mean nothing in 2025 much less in 2075, China is building fully drone operated aircraft carriers. India would probably offer larger resistance than the USA, based on IQ/demographics by 2075.

What about the land though? You completely ignored my main point. China currently has the 4th largest amount of arable land in the world, and their population is predicted to go down in the coming years. Why would they need/want more land, US farmland specifically?

The strongest civilization always takes the land. My prediction is China will be a stronger civilization than the west is in 50 years due to mass immigration, feminism, and inverted advancement, mostly due to paying all the smart people to go into finance and not engineering. Thus, China will be able to take the land, just like the Europeans and their repeating rifles took it away from stone aged Natives 150 years ago.

China already IS stronger, based on what you just said. But again, what would be their motive for taking it over?
There aren't masses of Chinese trying to escape debt slavery or seeking religious freedom like the early American settlers, so your comparison is quite flawed.

And I am not saying this to say "China is our enemy". Our enemy is within and if we don't solve it, then this system is going to collapse from within. China is just the vulture waiting to pick the bones clean.

You are right here, China is not the enemy.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

What about the land though? You completely ignored my main point. China currently has the 4th largest amount of arable land in the world, and their population is predicted to go down in the coming years. Why would they need/want more land, US farmland specifically?


China already IS stronger, based on what you just said. But again, what would be their motive for taking it over?
There aren't masses of Chinese trying to escape debt slavery or seeking religious freedom like the early American settlers, so your comparison is quite flawed.


You are right here, China is not the enemy.

The stronger civilization takes the land, it is just how primates work, this is even true among chimpanzees and great apes.

I think China already could take the USA, in a vacuum, if it wanted too. But in reality, if they tried right now, a lot of other countries would come to our aid, if nothing else, to knock China down a few pegs. So, right now, I don't think China could take the USA, and even if they could, it would be far too expensive and risky.

But looking at societal trajectories, eventually China's technology will be so much greater than the west, that they can just send robots and drones and clear the land and then move over and move in. I don't know when that will be, but it will be at least a few decades down the road, if not further. The only way I see this not happening is if the west does a complete 180 and stops the mass immigration, kicks out millions of people, gets rid of feminism, and guts finance. And I don't see this happening, these things are so ingrained in every facet of society it would take a revolution, the size never seen before, to even start to push back on it.

Actually, thinking it through more, and knowing how delicate/advanced/fragile agriculture is, as I have family in it, China probably will not even have to send drones. Just wait until the IQ is low enough for our people to start starving due to agriculture failures, like we see in fertile Africa, and then just let the people starve out and take the land.

They would have many reasons to take the land, if it is that easy and free for them to do. I mean, if you see a $100 bill on the ground, do you say "well, I don't need that"? 99% of people say "yea, I could use that" and grab it, it is human nature.

 

[Cooper]

The stronger civilization takes the land, it is just how primates work, this is even true among chimpanzees and great apes.

I think China already could take the USA, in a vacuum, if it wanted too. But in reality, if they tried right now, a lot of other countries would come to our aid, if nothing else, to knock China down a few pegs. So, right now, I don't think China could take the USA, and even if they could, it would be far too expensive and risky.

But looking at societal trajectories, eventually China's technology will be so much greater than the west, that they can just send robots and drones and clear the land and then move over and move in. I don't know when that will be, but it will be at least a few decades down the road, if not further. The only way I see this not happening is if the west does a complete 180 and stops the mass immigration, kicks out millions of people, gets rid of feminism, and guts finance. And I don't see this happening, these things are so ingrained in every facet of society it would take a revolution, the size never seen before, to even start to push back on it.

Actually, thinking it through more, and knowing how delicate/advanced/fragile agriculture is, as I have family in it, China probably will not even have to send drones. Just wait until the IQ is low enough for our people to start starving due to agriculture failures, like we see in fertile Africa, and then just let the people starve out and take the land.

They would have many reasons to take the land, if it is that easy and free for them to do. I mean, if you see a $100 bill on the ground, do you say "well, I don't need that"? 99% of people say "yea, I could use that" and grab it, it is human nature.

Before the Chinese colonise Kansas or Idaho, they are trying to colonize their own country, half of which is arid and not very suitable for agriculture and settlement, or settled areas that face droughts like in the north of that country:

They have dozens of large-scale projects to dam rivers and create canals to dry western and northern regions, over a trillion dollar water infrastructure projects, which will add to China's current arable land mass the equivalent of all the arable land in Canada and Argentina put together.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Before the Chinese colonise Kansas or Idaho, they are trying to colonize their own country, half of which is arid and not very suitable for agriculture and settlement, or settled areas that face droughts like in the north of that country:

They have dozens of large-scale projects to dam rivers and create canals to dry western and northern regions, over a trillion dollar water infrastructure projects, which will add to China's current arable land mass the equivalent of all the arable land in Canada and Argentina put together.

Oh yes, I expect this to not be for decades. But unless the west makes some major changes, it will eventually happen. The Chinese always lagged the Europeans, but once the Europeans are gone, there will be no one who can stop them. Especially now Israel sold them a lot of our top tech secrets and they are taking full advantage of it. At this point, China doesn't have to improve, just stay the same, and the west will collapse on its own without them firing a shot.

 

[Cooper]

Those infrastructure projects already are under way, most will be completed in the 2030s. They built most of their high-speed rail network in 10-15 years.



Wars are wasteful and only benefit the MIC and genocidal oligarchs who want to cull their population. The MIC doesn't run foreign policy in China, and their population has already been curtailed through the one child policy, they will drop to from 1.4 billion now down to 1 billion by the end of the century. The only wars China would engage in would be for Taiwan and their local Monroe Doctrine footprint in the South China Sea.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

Those infrastructure projects already are under way, most will be completed in the 2030s. They built most of their high-speed rail network in 10-15 years.

Wars are wasteful and only benefit the MIC and genocidal oligarchs who want to cull their population. The MIC doesn't run foreign policy in China, and their population has already been curtailed through the one child policy, they will drop to from 1.4 billion now down to 1 billion by the end of the century. The only wars China would engage in would be for Taiwan and their local Monroe Doctrine footprint in the South China Sea.

I agree, I don't see China wasting resources fighting a war to take land. They can just sit and wait, and it will be pretty much free to take in a few decades.

 

[analyst_green]

Before the Chinese colonise Kansas or Idaho, they are trying to colonize their own country, half of which is arid and not very suitable for agriculture and settlement, or settled areas that face droughts like in the north of that country:

They have dozens of large-scale projects to dam rivers and create canals to dry western and northern regions, over a trillion dollar water infrastructure projects, which will add to China's current arable land mass the equivalent of all the arable land in Canada and Argentina put together.

If anyone has to worry, it's Russia. You can see how the Russian border constrains China's population growth in the northeast, which is a very cold but humid region.

The Chinese have settled Manchuria with a fairly large number of people, but the Russian side is desolate in comparison. That part of Russia can support a larger population, so it would be a prime target for Chinese colonization.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

If anyone has to worry, it's Russia. You can see how the Russian border constrains China's population growth in the northeast, which is a very cold but humid region.

The Chinese have settled Manchuria with a fairly large number of people, but the Russian side is desolate in comparison. That part of Russia can support a larger population, so it would be a prime target for Chinese colonization.

I considered this, but Russia takes technology and supporting their people a lot more seriously than the west does. I don't see Russia ever being an easy target for China. I am guessing in 50 years, Russia will still be a majority Russian, an average IQ in the triple digits, and very advanced themselves.

Whereas the west will likely have an average IQ closer to 90 and struggling to keep their own lights on and food produced.

 

[Cooper]

In 50 years, China will have a population smaller by around 200 million people, and older, there is no impetus for lebensraum expansion in China. In 50 years they will have long cracked the energy issue with efficient nuclear fission and fusion, which means they can irrigate their arid land with pumped desalinated seawater.

The Chinese are not Vikings, they are not obsessed with colonizing distant lands. They are achieving wealth at home through smart industrial capitalism. If they were colonizers, the Philippines, Indonesia or Australia would have long been Chinese.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

In 50 years, China will have a population smaller by around 200 million people, and older, there is no impetus for lebensraum expansion in China. In 50 years they will have long cracked the energy issue with efficient nuclear fission and fusion, which means they can irrigate their arid land with pumped desalinated seawater.

The Chinese are not Vikings, they are not obsessed with colonizing distant lands. They are achieving wealth at home through smart industrial capitalism. If they were colonizers, the Philippines, Indonesia or Australia would have long been Chinese.

It isn't about colonizing or adventure; it is simply picking up something for free that will be invaluable to your people and your future. It would be crazy to think they wouldn't take what is sitting there begging for them to come take it.

 

[Cooper]

^The only way to take over a country like the US, which has two unsurmountable physical moats in the form of the largest oceans on earth, a very large territory and a heavily armed and unyielding population, is through cultural deception, social engineering and usury - the way it's been done for decades now.

The Chinese don't have that kind of ((scheming)) , parasitic mentality, they are an insular culture. However, they are pretty good at shielding themselves from those schemes:



Andrew Torba:

For all the posturing against the Great Firewall of China, you have to admit they cooked with that idea.

No western liberal degeneracy and atomized individualism.

No third-world multi-cultural slop.

A beautiful homogenous internet experience for their people.

A bulwark against the entropy of globalized digital culture.

Yes, they took it too far with total State control, but you can’t deny they also protected the minds of their people from the decay of the outside world.

 

[It_Is_My_Time]

^The only way to take over a country like the US, which has two unsurmountable physical moats in the form of the largest oceans on earth, a very large territory and a heavily armed and unyielding population, is through cultural deception, social engineering and usury - the way it's been done for decades now.

The Chinese don't have that kind of ((scheming)) , parasitic mentality, they are an insular culture. However, they are pretty good at shielding themselves from those schemes:



Andrew Torba:

For all the posturing against the Great Firewall of China, you have to admit they cooked with that idea.

No western liberal degeneracy and atomized individualism.

No third-world multi-cultural slop.

A beautiful homogenous internet experience for their people.

A bulwark against the entropy of globalized digital culture.

Yes, they took it too far with total State control, but you can’t deny they also protected the minds of their people from the decay of the outside world.

You are thinking in terms of historical America and historical technology. In those terms, you are correct.

In 50 years, the oceans will be not even a concern. Drone technology alone will assure this, much less some more advanced weapons like satellite and laser technologies that are being developed. Having a well-armed population against this technology is meaningless.

But the big thing, isn't how much China will advance, and they will greatly, it is more so how much the USA will decline. The USA and across the west, the IQ is dropping like a rock because of two big replacements.

First and mostly complete, following two world wars, and then welfare programs, many of the best European genetics are already deluded. Some suggest the average IQ of Europeans 100 years ago may have been closer to 110 and is now down to 100 due to these reasons. Whereas the average IQ in China is 105.

Second, and now occurring at a very amazing pace, is the replacement of the 100 IQ Europeans with 80 IQ non-Europeans. The demographics ensure in 50 years the west will be no longer majority European. The average IQ at that point will be closer to 90 or potentially even lower.

105 IQ v. 90 IQ + 50 years of technology advancement will be just like the European settlers in the west v. the Natives. Repeating rifles, 15-pound cannons, steel battleships v. arrows and tomahawks. It wasn't a battle, it was "okay stone aged people, now you go over here, and now over here, and just stay in these boundaries and we will let you live". I don't see the Chinese being this kindhearted, they will just use the people here as fertilizer, they are just that way, they have very little sense of empathy for their enemies, not even their women are empathetic towards people who want handouts.