I would guess that if there is a big shortage, that would drive the price up, but if the full reserve is there (or if there is more than the official amount, as some have speculated), then the price would go down from current levels.
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Gathering a few points from the 3 videos in @Caduceus post above: the 1971 visit was no audit (they only visited one of 150+ vaults), there had not been a previous visit to Ft. Knox since the 1930s, the 1971 visit was done under much speculation that the vaults had been cleaned out (similar to today). I have to wonder, has a true audit been performed since the 1930s, or ever? Understanding this is not the type of thing you want to review monthly (the less it is handled, the better), one would think an every-decade or so audit would do the trick.
Even if all the inventoried USG gold is present, how does that account for the multiple derivative tools in the financial market? Particularly the tools against the holdings at the COMEX and LBMA, outside of Ft. Knox?
Even if all the inventoried USG gold is present, how does that account for the multiple derivative tools in the financial market? Particularly the tools against the holdings at the COMEX and LBMA, outside of Ft. Knox?
Caduceus
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The immediate effect of any audit at fort knox that results in any big discrepancies on the officially declared holdings, will be on the value of the US Dollar, not on the price of gold (although that will of course follow soon after). So the audit will hurt or help the US economy more than anything else.
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Caduceus
Heritage
The press visit documented in those videos I posted was in 1974, not 1971.
But yes, there was no real audit in 1974...they just opened 1 door to 1 tiny room, took some pictures and videos, and then were quickly kicked out.
I have no idea if a real count and test of the entire holdings at fort knox has ever been done after they were put there in the mid 1930s . A seriously done audit would take many months, possibly up to a year....the problem isn't just moving and counting the thousands of gold bars, it's also doing tests to see if its real gold, rather than some other metal. The current treasury secretary recently said an audit is done every year, but that's just based on paper documents....no bars are actually moved and counted and tested.
Finally, Fort Knox only holds roughly HALF of the US gold reserves...the rest is stored in other vaults in West Point and Denver.
(The gold bars in New York belong are owned by about 36 different foreign nations who keep it there for "safekeeping")
If Trump and Musk are really serious about an audit of all the government gold stored in the USA, they would have all 4 locations audited simultaneously to avoid shell games with the bars.
See here for the other 3 locations where gold holdings are stored in the USA:
West Point Mint - Wikipedia
Denver Mint - Wikipedia
Federal Reserve Bank of New York Building - Wikipedia
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Dude, same! I offered him several gold coins similar to a barter system trade, and he turned them down for cash. Each coin has now appreciated up some 45% since then. Lol. It was a boomer, of course
Back to the do you accept gold? topic..
I'm adapting this to imperial units and US$ for the Americans..
Apparently a US$100 bill is 0.0043" thick
Not as thick as a US$10 bill :
www.chroniclecollectibles.com
Not sure I noticed that difference in thickness last time I was in the US.
30 of the US$100 bills would measure 0.129" thick which is 1/8 " and 6 1/8 " wide by 2 5/8" high
A 24 carat (not carrot) one ounce American buffalo coin is 1 5/16 " wide and 1/8 " thick
The US$100 bill weighs 0.04 ounces so 30 of them is 1.2 ounces.
Point is, the gold is more compact and lighter than the same value of US$100 bills.
What happens to American money if you forget to take it out of your pocket and goes through the washing machine..
I'm adapting this to imperial units and US$ for the Americans..
Apparently a US$100 bill is 0.0043" thick
Not as thick as a US$10 bill :
How Thick Is A 100-Dollar Bill? An In-Depth Look - Chronicle Collectibles
How thick is a 100-dollar bill? The thickness of money, especially banknotes, is something that many people are curious about but may not think to measure
www.chroniclecollectibles.com
Not sure I noticed that difference in thickness last time I was in the US.
30 of the US$100 bills would measure 0.129" thick which is 1/8 " and 6 1/8 " wide by 2 5/8" high
A 24 carat (not carrot) one ounce American buffalo coin is 1 5/16 " wide and 1/8 " thick
The US$100 bill weighs 0.04 ounces so 30 of them is 1.2 ounces.
Point is, the gold is more compact and lighter than the same value of US$100 bills.
What happens to American money if you forget to take it out of your pocket and goes through the washing machine..
The paper used for $US is fairly durable, and it comes through the washer and dryer cycle intact. Naturally people avoid doing this if possible, but whenever I've left cash in my pocket by accident, it came through fine. The color doesn't really fade or anything.Back to the do you accept gold? topic..
I'm adapting this to imperial units and US$ for the Americans..
Apparently a US$100 bill is 0.0043" thick
Not as thick as a US$10 bill :
How Thick Is A 100-Dollar Bill? An In-Depth Look - Chronicle Collectibles
How thick is a 100-dollar bill? The thickness of money, especially banknotes, is something that many people are curious about but may not think to measure
Not sure I noticed that difference in thickness last time I was in the US.
30 of the US$100 bills would measure 0.129" thick which is 1/8 " and 6 1/8 " wide by 2 5/8" high
A 24 carat (not carrot) one ounce American buffalo coin is 1 5/16 " wide and 1/8 " thick
The US$100 bill weighs 0.04 ounces so 30 of them is 1.2 ounces.
Point is, the gold is more compact and lighter than the same value of US$100 bills.
What happens to American money if you forget to take it out of your pocket and goes through the washing machine..
Surprised nobody has commented on here recently: Gold, all time highs! How about it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Gold go to 5K during Trump's term... If I had to guess, America first agenda and our currency being the world reserve currency means that foreign markets are going to get into gold just as fast as they possibly can. Dollar Milkshake Theory by Brent Johnson lays this out well. Exciting times!
I was going to write something but I was too busy rubbing my hands together like a Jew
Significant recent theft of art, a solid gold (18 carat) functioning toilet called "America" which weighed 100kg :
en.wikipedia.org
satirical participatory art since in a lot of its life, it was in a bathroom where you could just use it, even at one point in a bathroom that Winston Churchill used to use. Worth millions of course just in metal value.
Footage of the theft :
www.dailymail.co.uk
toilet thieves :
www.bbc.com
America (Cattelan) - Wikipedia
Footage of the theft :
CCTV shows moment thieves roll £4.75 million gold toilet out of palace | Daily Mail Online
Police have released CCTV footage of the moment thieves rolled a £4.75 million gold toilet away from Blenheim Palace and bundled it into the back of a car after stealing it in an
Gold toilet: Two men guilty over £4.8m Blenheim Palace heist
Five thieves were seen on CCTV stealing the fully-functional toilet from Blenheim Palace in 2019.
www.bbc.com
US gold at $3122 tonite. Shangai exchange has been trading even higher. Quite a long term gain for Gold.
Is this a flight to safety? As if the important people know of impending hazard and want their money locked into a hard asset.
Is Trump precipitating a ME conflict for the purpose of driving gold up? So as to revalue the US gold reserves at a higher value and boost the asset side of the balance sheet? Since election, gold has flowed back to various US accounts, allegedly because of tariffs. Don't ask me to explain. Still, gold has returned to various US interests (bank vaults, ETF holdings, or comex, if not Ft. Knox proper). Not sure how "safe" these places are, but the phenomenon is present. Or is it simply overpriced now?
Caduceus
Heritage
No way is gold is overpriced....if anything the price is being suppressed, even at 3100 dollars an ounce.
Also I think the tariffs Trump is imposing worldwide are making gold go upwards much more than any current or future conflicts in the middle east.