Patriot Front (and other White Nationalist Groups)

"Wait, the old guys who didn't see this coming and still have no solution don't like these guys because they go too hard?
It's not just old men who don't trust them and smell a rat. Anyone who has military experience and a knowledge of history should not trust these people. If they are so upright and honest, then why hide behind masks like Pantifa commies? Why dress in matching yuppy Walmart outfits from the 1990s? This did not develop organically from a cross-section of American men.
 
If they are so upright and honest, then why hide behind masks like Pantifa commies? Why dress in matching yuppy Walmart outfits from the 1990s?
Because they want to keep their jobs or bank accounts or remain in college/education and have families or prospects for families.

If you don't have a family or a prospect for a family, you don't really ever need to protest or risk anything as a right wing man. Single men have never had an issue comfortably providing for themselves, barring the most extreme famines and other extreme factors.

Our founding fathers wrote anonymous essays and pamphlets against the British under pseudonyms. The men who participated in the Boston Tea Party wore disguises. I genuinely don't understand what people don't understand about anonymity.
 
It's not just old men who don't trust them and smell a rat. Anyone who has military experience and a knowledge of history should not trust these people. If they are so upright and honest, then why hide behind masks like Pantifa commies? Why dress in matching yuppy Walmart outfits from the 1990s? This did not develop organically from a cross-section of American men.
@DanielH already answered perfectly.

I don't want to be mean, but Charlottesville, the biggest govt. organized conspiracy to shut down civil rights, the 1A, and loads of unfair prosecution happened over 6 years ago. How would you not know why they wear masks after the unfair/unconstitutional fallout from Charlottesville? And remember, all those unconstitutional moves by the govt. happened under Trump.

If you don't think this is organic, I have videos posted here, from the latest rally in DC, with the founder and his thoughts. I guarantee you the Federal Govt. does not want people hearing the things he is talking about. A Fed's talking points will either sound like Trump or will sound like the cartoon-esque KKK member from a Hollywood movie. It will not be pointing specifically who has destroyed this nation with usury and buying/blackmailing our politicians.

Don't join if you don't want to risk it. I will never join for that reason, or at least no time soon. But calling them "Feds" is just buying into the leftist frame and people still doing this in 2024 are suspect to me.
 
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They are 100% feds, my reasoning is their logo and look: they dress in uniform that looks Nazi but isn't too Nazi.

This shows their marketing was designed by some Talmud who thought, "if I wanted to make a Nazi group that attracts Nazi's without being explicitly Nazi, what kind of logo would I design..."

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"OH yeah, it would look like this!"

This is so obviously a fed ploy, just from the marketing perspective, that there's very little else to discuss.

Why not a cross? Why not the regular American flag? Because those are symbols that would appeal to the masses and generate support. Instead we've got Nazi larpers trying to scare the public with their brown shirt marching parades (lol) and trying to hurt support among the right.

Remember, the chews don't actually want to create a group that could win. Instead they need loser groups that they control, which Patriot Front is just yet another iteration of White Nationalist groups that are designed to lose.

As for Thomas Rousseau, he may actually be genuine about his beliefs, but he's not trustworthy at all, I bet you he's funded by some powerful chews. Until he shows the bank statements there's no reason to believe his intentions are good.

The only way to fight the Talmuds is through the only organization with a 2000 year history of resisting and nullifying them, which is the Church, specifically the Orthodox Church which retains its purity. Thus forums such as this one are the best method we have - we protect our identities, and grow the most powerful organization in the world, the one lead by God.

And if we were to ever protest, I would of course encourage everyone to mask up - except with a mask of their choosing, one that is colorful or creative, not one that isolates them from the crowd to be immediately typecasted as a scary Nazi Brownshirt Larper. I'd want a protest that both children and elderly would feel comfortably joining, not one that tries to rip off Schindler's List.

Verdict: Patriot Front is FAKE and GAY, their leaders are either compromised or have no idea what they are doing. Their strategy is absolute garbage, the fact they've gotten so many of their own already arrested is just proof they are designed to lose so the chews can stay in power longer.

All of this garbage is a distraction from the Church, which is the only viable long-term solution.
 
They are 100% feds, my reasoning is their logo and look: they dress in uniform that looks Nazi but isn't too Nazi.

This shows their marketing was designed by some Talmud who thought, "if I wanted to make a Nazi group that attracts Nazi's without being explicitly Nazi, what kind of logo would I design..."

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"OH yeah, it would look like this!"

This is so obviously a fed ploy, just from the marketing perspective, that there's very little else to discuss.

Why not a cross? Why not the regular American flag? Because those are symbols that would appeal to the masses and generate support. Instead we've got Nazi larpers trying to scare the public with their brown shirt marching parades (lol) and trying to hurt support among the right.

Remember, the chews don't actually want to create a group that could win. Instead they need loser groups that they control, which Patriot Front is just yet another iteration of White Nationalist groups that are designed to lose.

As for Thomas Rousseau, he may actually be genuine about his beliefs, but he's not trustworthy at all, I bet you he's funded by some powerful chews. Until he shows the bank statements there's no reason to believe his intentions are good.

The only way to fight the Talmuds is through the only organization with a 2000 year history of resisting and nullifying them, which is the Church, specifically the Orthodox Church which retains its purity. Thus forums such as this one are the best method we have - we protect our identities, and grow the most powerful organization in the world, the one lead by God.

And if we were to ever protest, I would of course encourage everyone to mask up - except with a mask of their choosing, one that is colorful or creative, not one that isolates them from the crowd to be immediately typecasted as a scary Nazi Brownshirt Larper. I'd want a protest that both children and elderly would feel comfortably joining, not one that tries to rip off Schindler's List.

Verdict: Patriot Front is FAKE and GAY, their leaders are either compromised or have no idea what they are doing. Their strategy is absolute garbage, the fact they've gotten so many of their own already arrested is just proof they are designed to lose so the chews can stay in power longer.

All of this garbage is a distraction from the Church, which is the only viable long-term solution.
Oh my gosh, not young White men learning history and learning the only political answer to fighting the satanic left. Anyone who does this is a "fed".

Why not a cross? Because Christianity hasn't saved the west post WW2. In fact, most Christian churches support the invasion, even with their money from their coffers. I haven't heard of one Church who calls out the damage the 1965 immigration act has caused the middle class, or one Church that talks about the big damage of feminism and women working outside the house.

But like I said, to them you are just a "dumb old boomer" so what you say means nothing to them. And I think this is going to be the real step towards the real red pill. Gen X conservatives admitted they did no better than their boomer parents and young men will rightfully disrespect them or ignore them as a result.

If you want the Chruch to lead the way, then you better get busy starting a new church that actual follows the teaching of Christ and not the modern "Christianity" that supports invasion, feminism, and destruction of the family unit.
 
They are 100% feds, my reasoning is their logo and look: they dress in uniform that looks Nazi but isn't too Nazi.

This shows their marketing was designed by some Talmud who thought, "if I wanted to make a Nazi group that attracts Nazi's without being explicitly Nazi, what kind of logo would I design..."

patriot-front-1280-720-primary.gif


"OH yeah, it would look like this!"

This is so obviously a fed ploy, just from the marketing perspective, that there's very little else to discuss.

Why not a cross? Why not the regular American flag? Because those are symbols that would appeal to the masses and generate support. Instead we've got Nazi larpers trying to scare the public with their brown shirt marching parades (lol) and trying to hurt support among the right.

Remember, the chews don't actually want to create a group that could win. Instead they need loser groups that they control, which Patriot Front is just yet another iteration of White Nationalist groups that are designed to lose.

As for Thomas Rousseau, he may actually be genuine about his beliefs, but he's not trustworthy at all, I bet you he's funded by some powerful chews. Until he shows the bank statements there's no reason to believe his intentions are good.

The only way to fight the Talmuds is through the only organization with a 2000 year history of resisting and nullifying them, which is the Church, specifically the Orthodox Church which retains its purity. Thus forums such as this one are the best method we have - we protect our identities, and grow the most powerful organization in the world, the one lead by God.

And if we were to ever protest, I would of course encourage everyone to mask up - except with a mask of their choosing, one that is colorful or creative, not one that isolates them from the crowd to be immediately typecasted as a scary Nazi Brownshirt Larper. I'd want a protest that both children and elderly would feel comfortably joining, not one that tries to rip off Schindler's List.

Verdict: Patriot Front is FAKE and GAY, their leaders are either compromised or have no idea what they are doing. Their strategy is absolute garbage, the fact they've gotten so many of their own already arrested is just proof they are designed to lose so the chews can stay in power longer.

All of this garbage is a distraction from the Church, which is the only viable long-term solution.
@Samseau, first off I'd like to say thank you for helping to start this forum and for always being a voice of reason. I may be wrong in my beliefs here, but I will posit a few counterpoints in addition to what I have already said here.

Firstly, I do not think these optics are bad. I do not think most Americans under 30 would think these optics are bad. Young people are removed from the Nazis bad rhetoric that has run the culture for decades. They're not really advertising for older Americans because they have a track record of not caring about the White American race being replaced, and they're not as concerned about the state of the country. That's just a fact, and I mean no offense to older members here, who clearly do not fit that archetype. In fact, I think my generation (millennial) is all around worse in general.

Fascist countries, agree with them or not, espoused beauty and form. PF has a good looking logo. It is pleasant to the eye and immediately shows what sets them apart from other groups, namely the fasces, indicating we are stronger together than as individuals, while still keeping the theme of our flag.

Secondly, just because a group has bad optics (again, in your opinion) does not mean they are Feds. George Lincoln Rockwell ran the American Nazi party and was most definitely not a Fed, he was kicked out of the military for his beliefs, his personal life was ruthlessly attacked, and he was eventually assassinated. Him and his group dressed like actual Nazis, and this was really not that long after World War 2.

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I'd say that's pretty darn bad optics but he was absolutely, 100% right that this country would be taken over by Jews and third worlders, while being pillaged through usury and a lack of morals, and there is no evidence he was a "Fed" in the sense we mean with regards to PF.

Thirdly, I agree. Participation in the Church is more important. However, the Church should be speaking out more about current issues, and blessing certain forms of activism. It is not spiritual to sit on the side and just pray for things to happen. At times, like when your broader family is being persecuted and genocided, we need to participate in activism and have some courage and name names and protest. I read a good quote from Saint Paisios about this recently, I'll have to find it, but for another perfect example, look at Saint John of Kronstadt. He supported an organization called "The Black Hundreds" which was a Russian ethnocentric and anti Jewish activist group. Saint John was also an honorary member of the Union of the Russian People, a far right nationalist political party, and blessed their banners. In doing so, he established the Church within that group, keeping them closer to Christ.

The Church should be the one "inflitrating" (so to speak) political organizations. St. Paul wished to appear before Caligula in order to convert him, so don't tell me we shouldn't wish to convert today's political activist groups. If they are too icky for us Orthodox Christians to touch, then don't be surprised when an actual fascist government comes and sees us as competitors.

Finally, you have no actual evidence that PF is a "fed ploy." It's an insult and an unsubstantiated claim, which is wrong of you to say. You could say "I suspect them to be such," but that's not what you said. Just because their members are being arrested doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong, it shows the bias and tyranny of our own government for arresting people for practicing their constitutional rights.

I'm trying to look up what their members have been arrested or convicted of. I see five in 2023 were convicted of "conspiracy to riot" and sentenced to a few days in prison. What? Patriot Front has never rioted once to my knowledge. They simply peacefully protest. Meanwhile actual rioters for many years in this country get off with absolutely nothing. This is anarcho tyranny, and PF is in the right, clearly. I can't find any other convictions tied to their activism.

In summation, I believe there is a spirit of cowardice that has taken over Americans and the Christian Right in the West, to the point where a group goes to protest against drag queen story hour, bringing equipment (not even firearms from what I saw) for self defense in a country with a right to bear arms and the right to peacefully protest, and then the American Christian right insults those very people who got arrested in an attempt to stop sexual perverts from reading to and parading in front of our children.
 
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They aren't feds.

They are an actual threat to the system and they are treated as such, unlike other protesters.

The way the gatekeeping conservative blue checks talk about them tells you everything. All lies, easily sourced. Joe Prich went over it on Sunday in an absolute passionate, banger of a show.



(You can start around 15 minutes in). If you have a strong PF opinion, please watch and get educated.

In the show Joe makes a great point -- Palestinian protesters blocked bridges and airports in NYC, but it's Patriot Front who gets the media coverage and are labeled as enemies. Literally anyone who tries to tell the truth about PF is blocked or shadowbanned. PF had members in Idaho get arrested and serve jail time for "conspiracy to riot" at a GROOMER EVENT.

They are not feds, and anyone who says so is ignorant. There may be a fed or two in the organization, but that's everywhere.

You know who the real feds are? Elon Musk. Nimrata Haley. Alex Jones. Ian Miles Chong. Joe Rogan. Gatekeepers.

My issue with PF is that most of the time they don't get their message out there -- compared to NJP I think it's harder to find out what PFs r'aison d'etre is, and given how the media reports on them they need to work harder on doing so.
 
Where do they stand on Israel/zionism?

If they are pro-zionism they are Feds beyond any shadow of a doubt.

That being said, I find it difficult to understand what they stand for on anything at all. They like marching around in chinos, that's pretty much all I know about them.
 
In the show Joe makes a great point -- Palestinian protesters blocked bridges and airports in NYC, but it's Patriot Front who gets the media coverage and are labeled as enemies. Literally anyone who tries to tell the truth about PF is blocked or shadowbanned. PF had members in Idaho get arrested and serve jail time for "conspiracy to riot" at a GROOMER EVENT.

Yes, the Palestinian protests are actual fed movements. That is why they shut down bridges and roads. Because they want to anger the right wing into supporting Israel. When the NJP showed up to join the Palestinian protest outside the White House, the Palestinian protesters ran off and told their supporting members to not talk to them.
 
Where do they stand on Israel/zionism?

If they are pro-zionism they are Feds beyond any shadow of a doubt.

That being said, I find it difficult to understand what they stand for on anything at all. They like marching around in chinos, that's pretty much all I know about them.
The leader of the movement is in this thread on video talking about these subjects.

Hell no they don't support Israel or Zionism.
 
I'm sure there are men involved whos hearts are in the right place, but the fact is, there are government agencies with massive budgets and tools at their disposal, whose job is to find and prosecute evil white supremacist terrorist boogeymen. Since these caricatures don't actually exist, and are purely a Hollywood/media/politician invention, they have to create them to justify their funding, and to perpetuate the myth, that they can use to continue their anti white, anti heritage American rhetoric.

These people are willing to stoop to the most pathetically low tactics and methods to entrap people. They are desperate, because like I mentioned earlier, these fictitious boogeymen don't exist in real life. So they find someone who they think is weak, jam them up on some BS charge, and then coerce them into becoming informants to gather info about others in the group, using their trust and friendship against them. I've even read about instances where female FBI agents slept with the "perp/informant" so they could more effectively steer him wherever they wanted him to go. Read about another where some parents discovered that an FBI agent was grooming their mentally disabled son over internet messaging apps.

"They're not doing anything illegal", well that's fine but these people can manipulate the situation and quickly turn your peaceful demonstration into a fiasco like Charlottesville, Jan 6th to where just being there can ruin your life. RICO predicates, the patriot act, these federal "law enforcement" agencies operate outside of the constitution. What's "illegal" to them? They define it themselves day by day.
 
"They're not doing anything illegal", well that's fine but these people can manipulate the situation and quickly turn your peaceful demonstration into a fiasco like Charlottesville, Jan 6th to where just being there can ruin your life.
What you're saying is like telling a rape victim they wouldn't have gotten beaten if they simply didn't resist. Of course the government and informants don't care about normal right wing protests. They don't care because the media simply won't show it. But when PF gets there with their banners and actual organization, then the people who hate us are upset, because that is akin to that rape victim starting to resist. Chews are actually afraid of PF and their tactics, because those tactics are the only ones that have ever worked against them before.

Telling Americans they can't organize while they are actively being genocided is malicious and unreasonable. There will be groups formed. It's a natural process because we are social creatures who hate being genocided and replaced. Nobody left of PF is using rhetoric anywhere close to accurately describing what is being done to us.

I'm being insistent on this because, to be clear, you couldn't make an organization that normiecons wouldn't say is Fed controlled. Every organization gets infiltrated, that's just the nature of the game. The Church has been infiltrated. Every government ever has been infiltrated. That doesn't mean you don't participate in them because of that.

I'm not telling people to join PF. By all means, go make a better group, or try to convince your pastors to be more vocal on these things. But for people to criticize PF when they look good, don't break the law, are ADVOCATING FOR YOU AND YOUR PROGENY, and are against sexual deviancy that could very well get us nuked from space by God Himself, all while you sit back, well that's just cowardice. It's sawing off your own legs. It's just laying back and accepting the rape.

Edit: Actually the rape scenario isn't quite accurate. It's more like you and your friends and family are all getting raped, and your niece starts resisting, and you tell her "Stop resisting or you're gonna get us all hurt!" (you're getting hurt anyways and there's no guarantee they're letting you live, in fact these rapists have a track record of not letting their victims live or reproduce...).
 
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I'm sure there are men involved whos hearts are in the right place, but the fact is, there are government agencies with massive budgets and tools at their disposal, whose job is to find and prosecute evil white supremacist terrorist boogeymen. Since these caricatures don't actually exist, and are purely a Hollywood/media/politician invention, they have to create them to justify their funding, and to perpetuate the myth, that they can use to continue their anti white, anti heritage American rhetoric.

These people are willing to stoop to the most pathetically low tactics and methods to entrap people. They are desperate, because like I mentioned earlier, these fictitious boogeymen don't exist in real life. So they find someone who they think is weak, jam them up on some BS charge, and then coerce them into becoming informants to gather info about others in the group, using their trust and friendship against them. I've even read about instances where female FBI agents slept with the "perp/informant" so they could more effectively steer him wherever they wanted him to go. Read about another where some parents discovered that an FBI agent was grooming their mentally disabled son over internet messaging apps.

"They're not doing anything illegal", well that's fine but these people can manipulate the situation and quickly turn your peaceful demonstration into a fiasco like Charlottesville, Jan 6th to where just being there can ruin your life. RICO predicates, the patriot act, these federal "law enforcement" agencies operate outside of the constitution. What's "illegal" to them? They define it themselves day by day.
So, to throw it back to you, then what is your solution?

Can't vote our way out of it, no better proof than the Supreme court ruling yesterday.
Can't depend on the Church, because the Church supports the satanic regime or at best, is quiet about it.
If you do any organization, then you are a "fed".

What do you suggest we do?
 
I don't know if they are feds. I do know the neo Nazis groups absolutely are. But I don't know about Patriot Front.

What I do know:

Optics of their organization are 100 percent in line with the leftist FBI declaration that white right wing militias are the greatest threat to this country.

So while what some of you guys are saying may be true... Take it to it's logical conclusion.... This organization is going to get entrapped and co-opted. Not really much different than the Proud Boys after all...

They may be altruistic and doing things for the right reason. Doesn't mean that they won't get fedfiltration eventually.
 
Somebody's got the hots for Patriot Front.

Here's a clue:

"You can't vote your way out of this mess. You can't vote your way out of this mess. You can't vote your way out of this mess. You can't vote your way out of this mess. You can't vote your way out of this mess. You can't vote your way out of this mess."

All together now! "You can't vote your way out of this mess!"

Now go join Patriot Front like a good little sheeple because they're not feds.
 
Somebody's got the hots for Patriot Front.

Here's a clue:

"You can't vote your way out of this mess. You can't vote your way out of this mess. You can't vote your way out of this mess. You can't vote your way out of this mess. You can't vote your way out of this mess. You can't vote your way out of this mess."

All together now! "You can't vote your way out of this mess!"

Now go join Patriot Front like a good little sheeple because they're not feds.
I haven't seen one person on here recommend joining Patriot Front.

The debate is if they are Feds, but that debate is put to rest with the words of their leader. The next question is philosophical, does calling them "feds" hurt or help the right wing. It is pretty obvious it hurts the right wing to call them feds, it is blackpilling and gas lighting the right wing base into staying on the couch and doing nothing. At this point, anyone calling them "feds" might likely be a left wing gatekeeper of the right wing, like Alex Jones has become.
 
Optics of their organization are 100 percent in line with the leftist FBI declaration that white right wing militias are the greatest threat to this country.
The FBI/Feds want the right wing to be...

Slob looking like Trailer park trash. Crude and unkempt. Saying things like "Whites are the superior race" and "Death to non-Whites" and other Hollywood goofy things.

Patriot Front is clean cut, in good shape, and inspirational to young men who are looking for guidance. The Feds don't want this image. Patriot Front talks about the satanic elites who have destroyed the west, in detail, and how they have done it. The Feds don't want this information in the main stream.

Which is why when the Feds put one of their assets out there, they are cheering on violence and looking like clowns, and maybe even do the "break down and cry and hug a leftist nonsense". And when Patriot Front gets out there, they either don't cover them, ignore them, or ask their apparatus in the right wing to run them down and call them "feds".
 
@Samseau They use the fasces symbol (the axe and log combined) because it is associated with George Washington, not Mussolini. The LARPing I've seen some of their members do on video (or perhaps feds who dress up like them and then record it, everything is so misleading nowadays) I chalk up as an emotional immaturity that I would expect their leader to quash if he expects to be taken seriously. They have every right to suggest an alternative to this corrupt democracy, with an authoritarian mode of government from a righteous leadership being one such possibility. Also to use that word "nazi" against these (basically kids) Patriot Front people suggests an indifference to the suffering and genocide our own white race has experienced as a result of the anti-European propagandizing of that word to rile up people into casting out someone, or in some cases, physically killing them, just because they are a "nazi". I know you don't mean that. That word should have no power over you or anyone, and these days if someone calls you that it means you are working against jewry, which is an inherently good trait for a man to possess.

I have not seen their commentary on Churches or Church leadership yet, but I imagine if their movement were to get bigger, they must consciously reach out to faith leaders to work with them going forward. The Church is not the "only solution" when it comes to geopolitics, but it is an essential component of creating a Christian Nationalist state which this group, or another like them with similar aspirations, would do well to heed. I will agree that if this group seeks to go the route of the Founding Fathers it too will ultimately result in a faith and moral failure. There needs to be a symphony of Church and state, just like Under Charlemagne or Byzantium, and the scattered divisions of evangelical fallout spread across America like crumbs is not a powerful enough monolithic entity to turn back jewry.

The federal government will do everything they can to co-opt this group into their staged crimes, there is no doubt about that. Their members will be arrested, assaulted, ostracized, but so would anyone who moves against the government. They would do it to the Churches too without hesitation, and make no mistake, they will do it to Orthodoxy in America the sooner their plans go south in Ukraine.

@ Everyone else, we should be focusing on discussing this group as an example of the things to do correctly and the things not to do correctly when making it your life's goal of fighting against the American Federal Government (which is chock full of and controlled by jews who weaponize every aspect of it against Christians and our morality). Their struggles are on display for all of us to ponder to our orbs on. It is too soon to openly join a group like this, but a day will come when the system cannot enforce its will ubiquitously anymore and then the time will be ripe for the one who dares to win.
 
One thing I am 99% certain of; this is not a natural "movement" or group.

It's either a 3-letter run honeypot, a perfect scapegoat (great for media blame purposes) or a total 3-letter org.

Anyhow a bunch of kids with shields and khakis.... 😂 really?

We just live in communism; 50% of all cash goes through this megalomanic organization, whatever we get shown somehow is manipulated.

Makes me think of Zundel and Rockwell and NJP; These weird media figures.

I can not imagine being in university and being asked: "You want to parade around in khakis and shields for a better country?"

And then thinking yes, sounds like a plan. This looks cool and smart to do.
 
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