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Orthodoxy preserves this through the tradition of hesychasm & the Philokalia which you may want to look into if you're not familiar. However I've been advised that these types of meditative prayer practices should only be pursued with the blessing and guidance of an Orthodox spiritual elder as there is danger of prelest or delusion when taken on independently (and from our perspective some of the Catholic mystics certainly fall into this category).
The Jesus prayer is the one aspect of this that is accessible to all Christians. It's great to say it throughout the day as it keeps the mind from wandering and promotes stillness as the Eastern religions also try to do. It's still good to talk to a priest about any prayer rule though, some would say especially concerning the Jesus prayer.

The key I've learned is just to focus on the words and their meaning. Jesus means Savior, and the Christ is the anointed one. You are simply asking our Lord and Savior, sent by the Father, to heal your sinful soul through His great love and thus save us. You don't visualize anything, don't change your breathing, and especially don't seek altered states without an experienced elder.
 
The Jesus prayer is the one aspect of this that is accessible to all Christians. It's great to say it throughout the day as it keeps the mind from wandering and promotes stillness as the Eastern religions also try to do. It's still good to talk to a priest about any prayer rule though, some would say especially concerning the Jesus prayer.

The key I've learned is just to focus on the words and their meaning. Jesus means Savior, and the Christ is the anointed one. You are simply asking our Lord and Savior, sent by the Father, to heal your sinful soul through His great love and thus save us. You don't visualize anything, don't change your breathing, and especially don't seek altered states without an experienced elder.
I was discussing with a priest how "mercy" is not quite an adequate translation of eleison. Mercy has connotations of "please don't punnish me!" But actually its more like "heal me, annoint me with oil to heal my wounds"

With this understanding I think the Jesus Prayer becomes a lot more universal. You're not just asking that the Lord overlook your sins (although there definitely can be this element to it in certain situations) but that He give you what you need, heal your injuries and save you.
 
I was discussing with a priest how "mercy" is not quite an adequate translation of eleison. Mercy has connotations of "please don't punnish me!" But actually its more like "heal me, annoint me with oil to heal my wounds"

With this understanding I think the Jesus Prayer becomes a lot more universal. You're not just asking that the Lord overlook your sins (although there definitely can be this element to it in certain situations) but that He give you what you need, heal your injuries and save you.
Indeed, mercy can also mean "love" here. Western Christianity became very legalistic so I believe the Latin and Germanic languages like English lack the perfect translation. The French translation of mercy is "pitié", which is maybe a bit better but also missed the mark. Only the Orthodox refer to God as a "physician" of souls and bodies.

In the Slavonic "Господи, помилуй", the imperative "помилуй" also carries connotations of compassion and a softening of the heart. Through prayer, God's love intertwines with our desire and need for Him, drawing us closer to Him.
 
My wife was baptized Catholic and took the name Rosalia after Saint Rosalia of Palermo. She's a catechumen now and will soon be baptized into the Orthodox church.

Because of the split, would she still be able to keep that name since I don't see any reference to her in the Orthodox church?
 
My wife was baptized Catholic and took the name Rosalia after Saint Rosalia of Palermo. She's a catechumen now and will soon be baptized into the Orthodox church.

Because of the split, would she still be able to keep that name since I don't see any reference to her in the Orthodox church?
Unlikely I'm afraid as she appears to be an Italian saint after the schism.

Some people however do get obscure baptismal names and just get referred to in most contexts by their name given at birth.
 
In the Slavonic "Господи, помилуй", the imperative "помилуй" also carries connotations of compassion and a softening of the heart. Through prayer, God's love intertwines with our desire and need for Him, drawing us closer to Him.
Etymologically the Slavonic root word for mercy actually means to stroke or caress, that's how soft it is.
 
Does anyone have a good link to a resource that gives the daily Scripture reading according to the Orthodox calendar and also names it according to the Church calendar? I.E. 31st week after Pentecost, and so on. I know I could calculate this myself but looking for a quick reference. Or a well-featured online Church calendar in general.

I found these:

But I can't easily correlate them with some of my reference books without knowing the week we're in.
 
but Turkey striking Greece.
There is currently a riff between these two (who'd a thunk?) about the dividing lines between them in the Mediterranean.

As for the Israeli strike on Iran and nuclear, that's a long term reality that's actually happened several times. Is this bigger? Yes, but mostly because it wasn't going to happen from before and through the last Trump years.
 
There is currently a riff between these two (who'd a thunk?) about the dividing lines between them in the Mediterranean.

As for the Israeli strike on Iran and nuclear, that's a long term reality that's actually happened several times. Is this bigger? Yes, but mostly because it wasn't going to happen from before and through the last Trump years.
We should take this as a warning sign to encourage repentance. But also, to stay vigilant. All eyes are on Turkey now.
 
There is currently a riff between these two (who'd a thunk?) about the dividing lines between them in the Mediterranean.

As for the Israeli strike on Iran and nuclear, that's a long term reality that's actually happened several times. Is this bigger? Yes, but mostly because it wasn't going to happen from before and through the last Trump years.
The saint have warned us that when Turkey strikes Greece thats the second sign that the great world war is going to start. They have also said that Turkey will no long exist, 1/3 will die, the other 1/3 will convert to Christianity and the rest will flee, I think its Russia thats going to be invloved in helping Greece to wipe them out and Turkey will become Christian again.
 
Perhaps this should be asked ironically to the spiritual father, but does anyone have thoughts or have you mulled over whether to even mention to elders or your confessor that you think that the culture and women are cooked in your home (western) country? When I say this I don't mean go into detail at all but tell him that you think that traveling to other countries at this point would be actually a good thing.

I am asking because inherently I don't distrust anything with priests I've seen and met regarding matters of the faith, but I don't get the idea or feeling (I could be wrong) that they are any different from any boomer or married guy when telling others about marriage in the west, at this point.
 
What's your take on the particulars above? I'm curious - should I bother asking or ask generically what they think about moving to another country (at least for a while)?
Sadly, I haven't had much luck in finding a genuine spiritual father in America outside of the Ephraimite monasteries (a lot of people in this sphere seem to think ROCOR is super "based and trad", but that hasn't been my experience at all). Most parish priests that I've met (especially of the Baby Boomer generation) generally view America favorably and the entire American project/culture/ethos as something that isn't destructive to the spiritual life and that can be reconciled with Orthodoxy (both of these are obviously false in my view). American culture doesn't really mean anything at this point except love of comfort and money and whatever is manipulated to become popular on TV and other media. You'll get luckier with priests the younger they are, since younger priests often understand better the issues facing people in their 20s/30s.

When Christians went to Rome during the early Church, they didn't view Rome as this great thing that they were just so happy to be apart of. They viewed it as an evil Empire that needed to be converted and brought the light of Truth. This is not the sense that I get in the vast majority of Orthodox parishes I've seen or visited in America among the laity and priests: even immigrant priests often see America as this great thing and it's such a privilege to be in the US. They don't have the long view and don't see that most immigrant families have the first-generation attending church regularly, the 2nd generation not taking it very seriously, and the 3rd generation having virtually no connection to it. This is often not just a product of the wider American culture outside of the Church, but I think is also due to the parishes/churches themselves (they simply feel too worldly, too Americanized, and too unserious/unsacred to really compel people to sincerely take the faith seriously).

I say all of this as someone who's spent a large portion of the last several years in Georgia (Sakartvelo) and Romania, and so I'm very familiar with how vastly different Orthodoxy is in a practicing Orthodox country vs how it's expressed in most (though not all) parishes in the US. If you ask almost any priest (especially monks) in Romania or Georgia what they think about America, they basically all see it clearly for what it is, and they're disappointed in the extent of American cultural influence on their home country through the media and other propaganda.

If a priest can't see the issues with the outside culture and just wants to be a part of that culture, of course they aren't going to tell you it's necessary to travel abroad to find a wife. They also probably have zero idea about the issues facing young people today in terms of family formation and housing.

Almost all of my American male friends are either 1) unmarried or 2) have non-American wives. I can think of only one man I'm friends with in the Millennial generation who's practicing Orthodoxy and has an American wife: Him and his wife were basically both agnostic/atheist growing up and met in high school and stayed together locally and got married several years after high school. A short time later, both converted to Orthodoxy. They are both really exceptional people.

What does that tell you? It means that the majority of American women are just totally unmarriageable, and this includes heavily Americanized girls from Orthodox immigrant families who show up to Liturgy in short skirts covered in tattoos by the age of 21. St. John Chrysostom advises men to marry a poor and young woman (not a rich or older one). That eliminates almost every woman in America (those that grew up in the comfort of the suburbs and those that need to get a ton of education and a career before marrying). There are exceptional American women out there who I believe are marriage material (I've met them at different periods in my life due to the various social circles I've been a part of). They are less than 1% of the population, however. And even these girls have a lot of baggage that isn't ideal (will get married older, will expect you to be as rich as their father who is a baby boomer or Gen X that accumulated a lot of wealth already over the course of his life so that they can have a similar lifestyle to the one they grew up with, will not be interested in having many kids, and will likely not be Orthodox but some sect of protestant/RC/Jew that hasn't gone totally woke yet).

I'm extremely grateful for my Romanian wife (who has been the best wife and mother I could ever ask for) and couldn't imagine having an American wife. Tied to this, however, is that you need to be prepared to leave America for good (which might be difficult financially as you're raising a family because your credentials, work experience, and professional network are likely all in the West). If you meet a foreign wife who actually practices her Orthodoxy, she is likely to be extremely miserable and lonely if she lives a long period of time in the US.
 
Sadly, I haven't had much luck in finding a genuine spiritual father in America outside of the Ephraimite monasteries (a lot of people in this sphere seem to think ROCOR is super "based and trad", but that hasn't been my experience at all). Most parish priests that I've met (especially of the Baby Boomer generation) generally view America favorably and the entire American project/culture/ethos as something that isn't destructive to the spiritual life and that can be reconciled with Orthodoxy (both of these are obviously false in my view). American culture doesn't really mean anything at this point except love of comfort and money and whatever is manipulated to become popular on TV and other media. You'll get luckier with priests the younger they are, since younger priests often understand better the issues facing people in their 20s/30s.

When Christians went to Rome during the early Church, they didn't view Rome as this great thing that they were just so happy to be apart of. They viewed it as an evil Empire that needed to be converted and brought the light of Truth. This is not the sense that I get in the vast majority of Orthodox parishes I've seen or visited in America among the laity and priests: even immigrant priests often see America as this great thing and it's such a privilege to be in the US. They don't have the long view and don't see that most immigrant families have the first-generation attending church regularly, the 2nd generation not taking it very seriously, and the 3rd generation having virtually no connection to it. This is often not just a product of the wider American culture outside of the Church, but I think is also due to the parishes/churches themselves (they simply feel too worldly, too Americanized, and too unserious/unsacred to really compel people to sincerely take the faith seriously).

I say all of this as someone who's spent a large portion of the last several years in Georgia (Sakartvelo) and Romania, and so I'm very familiar with how vastly different Orthodoxy is in a practicing Orthodox country vs how it's expressed in most (though not all) parishes in the US. If you ask almost any priest (especially monks) in Romania or Georgia what they think about America, they basically all see it clearly for what it is, and they're disappointed in the extent of American cultural influence on their home country through the media and other propaganda.

If a priest can't see the issues with the outside culture and just wants to be a part of that culture, of course they aren't going to tell you it's necessary to travel abroad to find a wife. They also probably have zero idea about the issues facing young people today in terms of family formation and housing.

Almost all of my American male friends are either 1) unmarried or 2) have non-American wives. I can think of only one man I'm friends with in the Millennial generation who's practicing Orthodoxy and has an American wife: Him and his wife were basically both agnostic/atheist growing up and met in high school and stayed together locally and got married several years after high school. A short time later, both converted to Orthodoxy. They are both really exceptional people.

What does that tell you? It means that the majority of American women are just totally unmarriageable, and this includes heavily Americanized girls from Orthodox immigrant families who show up to Liturgy in short skirts covered in tattoos by the age of 21. St. John Chrysostom advises men to marry a poor and young woman (not a rich or older one). That eliminates almost every woman in America (those that grew up in the comfort of the suburbs and those that need to get a ton of education and a career before marrying). There are exceptional American women out there who I believe are marriage material (I've met them at different periods in my life due to the various social circles I've been a part of). They are less than 1% of the population, however. And even these girls have a lot of baggage that isn't ideal (will get married older, will expect you to be as rich as their father who is a baby boomer or Gen X that accumulated a lot of wealth already over the course of his life so that they can have a similar lifestyle to the one they grew up with, will not be interested in having many kids, and will likely not be Orthodox but some sect of protestant/RC/Jew that hasn't gone totally woke yet).

I'm extremely grateful for my Romanian wife (who has been the best wife and mother I could ever ask for) and couldn't imagine having an American wife. Tied to this, however, is that you need to be prepared to leave America for good (which might be difficult financially as you're raising a family because your credentials, work experience, and professional network are likely all in the West). If you meet a foreign wife who actually practices her Orthodoxy, she is likely to be extremely miserable and lonely if she lives a long period of time in the US.
Your best bet is still with immigrant priests in the US, they tend to be more based. I agree though that there is something that American Orthodox are lacking and it comes through no fault of their own, because it can only be gained from experiencing Orthodoxy all around you growing up. Even in day-to-day life, Orthodoxy has so deeply penetrated into the culture of Greece, Romania, Russia, etc. that there are some things you just can't put into words.

Some American priests unfortunately also have Protestant or Catholic influences in their thinking. Older priests are not bad, they are sometimes just more accepting of reality, and less idealistic than the younger ones. They are used to hearing thousands of confessions for decades and have a better understanding of how to handle them.

My own spiritual father can clearly see what's going on around us in the society and he's very compassionate and humble. I am very fortunate to have found him through God's will. One day I will ask him about the topic of marriage and going abroad to see what he thinks. I heard from Fr. Kosmas's podcasts that even if you find a spiritual father who has some flaws, if you ask him in humility and faith yourself, God can enlighten him to give you the right answer.

What's clear to me is that if you want an American wife, you either get very lucky or you have to be ready to make serious compromises. But the alternatives are 1) staying celibate for decades or 2) moving abroad. The first is unpalatable for most men, and the second can work only for a very select few who are of an independent and adaptable mindset. But even for those, it's so hard to leave all your family and friends behind. I think it is good to ask God in prayer often to guide you in choosing the right woman (as with all important decisions in life), if you should find her and have any doubts. I think there are marriageable women here but you have to be ready to deal with a lot of flaws and cultural programming. I'm okay if she's not perfect as long as she has some humility and is willing to accept God's will for her, to try to change.
 
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