This guy is turning into a VAX cuck incel.
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Nick Fuentes Thread
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This guy is turning into a VAX cuck incel.
I'm not a fan of Nick, but his take on them, as far as I have heard is pretty solid...
#1) Sex outside of marriage is not good and is the sin of lust.
#2) Letting women lead the marriage or act like giant children is a sin and inversion of the family structure.
#3) Women shouldn't vote.
I don't know if he has other opinions on women, other than this, but these three I think everyone here would agree with.
Did you watch the clip choppa boy posted? I´ve made it halfway cause he rants so much shit. Fuentes makes a 20mnt rant posting the negatives of marriage. Which are all false. He is talking without any practical knowledge. He is giving awful advice to young people. Stating you lose your testosterone, become domesticated, gain weight, by getting married etc, etc. It´s false. You don´t lose testosterone. You channel it to other endeavours. You don´t become domesticated. As you get older. And there´s an obvious correlation between marriage and getting older. You start valuing more comfort and less adventure. You see a lot of unmarried PUA becoming jaded as they get older. Because the drive is gone. Roosh etc, When your 40 you don´t want to go to a club listen to loud music till 5 am. Or walk around in the cold and rain at 01 Am. A woman. A proper woman is comfort. It´s 24h available sex. It´s homemade meals. That´s why you get fat. Cause your fridge is full. With pies or cakes. Woman. Normal woman. Hate filth or dirt. And are above all they´re function in life is to be a good mother.
Of course they are always woman. So they are irrational and emotional. And sometimes you need to give in and suffer the stupidity. But living without woman is much much worse. There´s no comparison on earth. Protestant countries forgot what is a woman. But you can always marry a catholic (or an ortho). And taste what real woman feels like. And not those botched protestant freaks. A friend of mine has two young girls. He just cancelled netflix. He said he had catch them watching something he didnt like.
You posted a clip of Fuentes ranting against marriage. And after criticized a Tate post saying people shouldn´t get married. At least Tate is suggesting having children out of wedlock. It´s 100% peasant arguments.
If you don´t want to make the big show of marriage. You can go with two witnesses and get married. That´s what I told a friend of mine. Go with your wife and get married swiftly. The kids cant be bastards.
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Did you even follow the entire wifejak drama that preceded the argument? On that specific argument I'd have to agree with Nick. Marriage might be a good thing, but St Paul also said that there was value to staying celibate. Your post reads almost word for word like one of the cope posts he was making fun of.
One of the guys he argued with literally married an old divorcee and adopted black children with her, which is obviously some weird liberal fetish. a sexual one for women, as far as I can tell.
We've seen enough wife-wish posting in this site and its predecessor alone to confidently state that it might be a good idea to just get the idea out of your head and let God take care of it.
It seems that a good chunk of men legitimately lose their grit, and all of it, over being with women. I get that oxytocin and the father lifestyle and aging all drag your T levels down, but one could at least try to become a man with some firm convictions first.
If one's plan is to marry some 30 year old who gets the heebeejeebies about ending up alone after being a feminist of whatever shade for 10 years, then I think theres a lot more to be done in this department. And I also think that that's not a good strategy in general. St Paul never said celibate was inherently worse than marriage, quite the opposite. Marriage is literally just better than adultery, which is why Andrew Tate should shut up about it, but it's the internet, so everybody comments.
If God brings some woman into your life that you can listen to for 10 minutes without wanting to ram an ice pick into your skull, great. If you stay single and use the time to develop yourself and maybe act courageously in the spiritual or political realm, even better, imo.
The problem is that there's a dominant mentality of supposedly right wing men viewing having a wifejak and children as the peak of spiritual life, and I can't for the life of me figure out why. Sure, children are a blessing, but the biggest degenerates on earth have children, and if you have them with a dumb bitch who ran out of options at that, I don't think that's anything to write home about. Certainly not if you are in dissident right politics, which was where this discourse took place.
Sorry i dont follow wifejak drama. Doest it has anything to do with groypers or wignats?
Celibacy unless you plan on following church vocation is retarded. Or have some physical or psychological imbalance. Sex is good. Having sex with your wife is even better. Of course you want to jump the fence from now and then. But it´s not worth it.
Genesis 1:28. ESV And God blessed them. And God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth."
Ok. There are retards everywhere. But just because there´s a retard it doesn´t make everybody a retard. Marrying an old divorcee and adopt black children is beyond retardation.
God wants you to have children.
Your T levels will go down because you get old. Your hairline recedes not because you got married but because you get old. Injuries take more time to get healed. You get fatter not only because you have hot home made meals but also because your metabolism is slower.
Why would you want to marry a whore? You marry a woman you want to have sex with. And has enough traits to make you happy. With an extremely low body count. If you can´t find them it´s because your not searching hard enough and/or in the wrong place.
Why would you want to listen a woman for more than 10 minutes?
You keep assuming your wife will be a whore. Why? Change social circles fast.
Children are great. If you take care of them they will be your best friends. I was invited to a lunch today with 20 people. I´m not going. However I am going to pick up my kids from school and go to cinema with them. Wanted to see gladiator 2. But might be too hard on the 8 year old. Last movie was red one. Nice movie.
Women are a toy. A videogame. Something for you to enjoy. They were created for that. To be enjoyed by man. Don´t pay attention to what they say. Focus on yourself and the right woman will jump on the train. They are there for the ride. Don´t ask them to be the conductor. At best they can influence. Like all relationships as time passes it evolves.
List:
Religious
Little or non social media
no tattoos
Low body notch count
Boner test approved
Happy
Good relationship with father
There´s one trait/red flag I´ve been noticing which is those black eyeliners. Whores normally have that also. But not all of them have it.
I think woman are also being played on by the media into believing that´s what man want.
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This is the opposite of the wifeguy mentality, that is the guy's on twitter with red eyes posting wifejak memes. They literally have no higher asperation in life then to get married and have a family. Having a family isn't being criticized here, but this simp mentality. What does that say about the power dynamics in a relationship if you are so desperate for a wife.
This (Ælþemplær post) is feminine and pathetic.
This is the right mentality.
This is some sad shit. No decent woman will want a man who posts shit like that. That guy should be wiped. Woman don´t want another woman. Also in car trip kids don´t sing playful music. Maybe in the beginning. They beat each other and you have to yell for them to stop. Normally they wont pay much attention to the mother. But if the father yells. They listen fast.
This is a complete inversion of roles. This ship is going down.
Why are ppl paying attention to faggots? it´s a non issue.
You need to understand western woman have been lied to. Just like man. And your job is to shit on MSM and get things right because nature is not changeable.
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I think we're all in agreeance on here. They point out some bad things about marriage but not why those bad things came about when it was much more controlled in previous iterations of society due to morality being controlled by a spiritual belief intertwined with a heritage and not a cosmopolitan material cause.
The goal is to keep marriage in an Apostolic church and only have kids afterwards. I can't recommend two Europeans to get married civilly and start having kids or in a non-Apostolic church, but if they do and they are married before having the children I can't fault them for that. There needs to be more Europeans on the earth period, and the only ones increasing their numbers are large families, some in the church, some outside (Texans, Mormons, Amish, Mennonite, etc). So by whatever means necessary everyone needs to do their due diligence to find a young wife either in the church or before she is tempted with destroying her flesh by jewish vices.
Being older and more established helps in Catholic countries to find a younger wife, but there's still a ton of bullshit to jump through. There is no easy way out of this. We're all going to have to suffer, and those of you already married with children in the Church, Catholic or Orthodox, know what I mean. For many of us it is a significantly different pace of life, and activity. Tending to a woman nearly 24/7 is exhausting, a man really can't do it unless he has that "love" for her, oxytocin and all, and a moral sense of duty as a man to a woman, which has been discarded in favor of "what can I get right now or in the near future?" the same way women cast their souls away for a gasp of attention.
All of these commentators and activists and potential tools like Fuentes, Woods, the Tates, Bilzerian etc are not people anyone should listen to for relationship advice. They either go the full alpha negative with the guns and the money and the cars to get whores which is easier than dirt for any man with a series of zeroes in his bank account and a modicum of testosterone, or they intellectualize and castigate anyone else who engages in normal human relations. Roosh would have been the best one had he married and stuck around to talk about the proper way to get out of that life of hedonism into a successful relationship, but God had other plans for him. Going in that life past the mid 30s is difficult to get out of.
When the chips are down, none of these commentators will have the know-how to truly lead a society morally. In the absence of kings and warrior generals, all we're left with are monks and fathers to do that, and there are few of those going public with a civilizational framework. Society's inverted power structure does not represent an extension of the family, the way it always used to, with the exception of some popes in the Renaissance, everyone had a family or children.
All the leaders are pimps or plants and all those with honor who would be best at leading are living in obscurity. It will change, but that change will be more painful than most people can currently bear. Excising the cancer of comfort will kill many people in that time.
The goal is to keep marriage in an Apostolic church and only have kids afterwards. I can't recommend two Europeans to get married civilly and start having kids or in a non-Apostolic church, but if they do and they are married before having the children I can't fault them for that. There needs to be more Europeans on the earth period, and the only ones increasing their numbers are large families, some in the church, some outside (Texans, Mormons, Amish, Mennonite, etc). So by whatever means necessary everyone needs to do their due diligence to find a young wife either in the church or before she is tempted with destroying her flesh by jewish vices.
Being older and more established helps in Catholic countries to find a younger wife, but there's still a ton of bullshit to jump through. There is no easy way out of this. We're all going to have to suffer, and those of you already married with children in the Church, Catholic or Orthodox, know what I mean. For many of us it is a significantly different pace of life, and activity. Tending to a woman nearly 24/7 is exhausting, a man really can't do it unless he has that "love" for her, oxytocin and all, and a moral sense of duty as a man to a woman, which has been discarded in favor of "what can I get right now or in the near future?" the same way women cast their souls away for a gasp of attention.
All of these commentators and activists and potential tools like Fuentes, Woods, the Tates, Bilzerian etc are not people anyone should listen to for relationship advice. They either go the full alpha negative with the guns and the money and the cars to get whores which is easier than dirt for any man with a series of zeroes in his bank account and a modicum of testosterone, or they intellectualize and castigate anyone else who engages in normal human relations. Roosh would have been the best one had he married and stuck around to talk about the proper way to get out of that life of hedonism into a successful relationship, but God had other plans for him. Going in that life past the mid 30s is difficult to get out of.
When the chips are down, none of these commentators will have the know-how to truly lead a society morally. In the absence of kings and warrior generals, all we're left with are monks and fathers to do that, and there are few of those going public with a civilizational framework. Society's inverted power structure does not represent an extension of the family, the way it always used to, with the exception of some popes in the Renaissance, everyone had a family or children.
All the leaders are pimps or plants and all those with honor who would be best at leading are living in obscurity. It will change, but that change will be more painful than most people can currently bear. Excising the cancer of comfort will kill many people in that time.
So why do you even bother? Are you the kind of person who gets into a debate mid-conversation and then rants about one of the participants?
I noticed that's about 70-90% of the Nick-haters. Anyone can be criticized, but then it's good to at least understand the position beforehand. Looking at 30 second clips from Right Wing watch and then making a fuss about is adds nothing but hot air.
Likewise, it's fine not to give a crap, but then it's not really good to run one's mouth about any of the other people involved.
Nobody, neither Nick, nor anyone here, nor even his detractors claimed it was bad to get married and have children. The entire point of dispute was how people approach it. It got kicked off by the wifejak meme and Con Inc tards bragging about their 30 year old waifu conservathots.
Plus a lot of men who get married, and I've seen plenty of them, literally only get married because they develop psychological dependence with some woman that is willing to touch their peen. No vetting, to maintenance of standards, nothing. And I'm not even going to get into female influencers pretending to be "tradwives".
Andrew Torba is married lol.
Beautifully put. If you still think you can vote your way out of this, and think those who are correct, and say "you can't vote your way out of this" are "blackpilled", then you have a very big coming to Jesus moment ahead of you.
Fuentes is 100% right about women and about marriage. I have never in my life met a married man under the age of 50 who is not a psychological abuse victim and, to varying degrees, like a caged animal in spirit. They are all under subtle threat of divorce by their wives even when things are going well. It's a sword of Damocles constantly over their heads and it drives them mad.
The absurd amount of power that the powers that be have, with demonic intent, bestowed upon women, has completely destroyed male-female dynamics and made stable marriages where the man is truly the head a near-impossibility. Almost every way to assert your dominance over your wife is either borderline or outright illegal now in the western world.
In Australia, feminists have even managed to pass laws against "coercive control." This is an extremely ambiguous crime that is defined as any kind of coercive behavior to control a woman in a relationship. This includes, but is not limited to, giving your wife the stink eye for getting pregnant with another man's child. You can be imprisoned if the mere stare into your woman's eye is enough to make her feel you're being coercive.
You are to exercise no control, she is never to submit to you. Only to the state and her employer. That is, in fact, the end goal of feminism, no-fault divorce, social safety nets for single mothers, alimony, and all other such nonsense.
Most married men today, not only lacking other options but also being constantly brainwashed by society into being disgusted by their own sexuality and by the idea of exercising any kind of authority over a woman, simply submit to their wives and constantly try to appease and placate them with great desperation. Just absolutely depressing to watch.
Despite everything Fuentes has said about marriage, he has made it clear many times that he acknowledges the fact that as a Christian man it is his duty to marry and multiply, and that he will do it some day, though he does not look forward to it. He has stated that he cannot marry or date right now because he's a highly controversial public figure with a lot to lose.
The absurd amount of power that the powers that be have, with demonic intent, bestowed upon women, has completely destroyed male-female dynamics and made stable marriages where the man is truly the head a near-impossibility. Almost every way to assert your dominance over your wife is either borderline or outright illegal now in the western world.
In Australia, feminists have even managed to pass laws against "coercive control." This is an extremely ambiguous crime that is defined as any kind of coercive behavior to control a woman in a relationship. This includes, but is not limited to, giving your wife the stink eye for getting pregnant with another man's child. You can be imprisoned if the mere stare into your woman's eye is enough to make her feel you're being coercive.
You are to exercise no control, she is never to submit to you. Only to the state and her employer. That is, in fact, the end goal of feminism, no-fault divorce, social safety nets for single mothers, alimony, and all other such nonsense.
Most married men today, not only lacking other options but also being constantly brainwashed by society into being disgusted by their own sexuality and by the idea of exercising any kind of authority over a woman, simply submit to their wives and constantly try to appease and placate them with great desperation. Just absolutely depressing to watch.
Despite everything Fuentes has said about marriage, he has made it clear many times that he acknowledges the fact that as a Christian man it is his duty to marry and multiply, and that he will do it some day, though he does not look forward to it. He has stated that he cannot marry or date right now because he's a highly controversial public figure with a lot to lose.
Roosh did not stop clubbing and doing pick-up artistry because he "became Jaded" or "started valuing more comfort and less adventure due to old age". He stopped because he found Christ.
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I've recently had an experience with God, so I feel it necessary to speak on both this specific subject and the matter at hand.
Yes. We absolutely cannot vote our way out of this. Nor can we fight our way out, not can we beg our way out, nor can we bargain our way out, nor can we scheme our way out or even think our way.
The only way we can get out of this is through God, because it is through God that all things are made.
Except we already did.
God granted us all mercy on that day.
On the day before, I had prayed to God endlessly for salvation, I had even contemplated suicide, such was my melancholy and despair.
Yet I persevered and swung my fist to the sky in anger at the idea of surrendering to death and sinning against God, and unbeknownst to me, my prayers had already been answered.
God called us to be brave and we were. Now? He calls us to be humble. Nothing our enemies do shall bear fruit, we should focus on defeating then cleanly and promptly, on not letting them foster disunity among us, and on following after God, and learning the ways of the Saints.
Back to the matter at hand, I distinctly remember a time Sargon of Akkad explored some old medieval English texts about women.
In the first, King Arthur gives Lancelot an ugly and evil women to marry, but it was his King so Lancelot accepts without complaint. Lancelot diligently loves her as husband and wife, despite her unpleasant appearance and demeanour.
Over time she slowly becomes more kind and virtuous, and even her appearance becomes beautiful, as if she turned into a different person entirely.
Carl also talks about the practice of proposal, and how Noble women would take pleasure and pride in seeing a paragon of masculinity such as a knight kneel before them and ask for something so humbly.
Yes, women have big egos. Women are like children. Have you ever met a teenager?
However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't be humble. Lead by example.
We live in a very different age now. Everything is so disgustingly gynocentric today that such a gesture feels like just more gynocentrism. I find the idea of kneeling before a woman absolutely revolting in the context of the modern day.
After you kneel before her, you get the privilege of wasting an amount of money that could buy you a car on a big ceremony entirely centered around feeding her ego and making her feel like a princess even though she's almost definitely not even a virgin. I feel sick just thinking about it.
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Okay, so in the real world, what exactly does this look like? Because no where did I say that God would not be included, but at the same time, we can't just sit on our ass and expect God to come save us, the Bible itself tells this this is the case.
I don't need a specific plan, but to think that if we do anything outside of organization and pushback, which will be fighting back, and we will be saved, is not reality, nor is it Christian.
I'm curious how long this takes. I'm also curious on how long God lets the technology stuff go, as I can see many of the future and end times scenarios as far more ethereal and bizarre in a much more "advanced" world - many years ahead of us. Remember, we all think we are a special generation, it's just how humans are, which is why they also tend to think doom will happen in their lifetimes.
100%. It's a total joke at this point.
The right thing to do is starve women out; that will also force the issue and reduce numbers such that the good survival genes will come back while the economy and largesse evaporate.
I don't know about "collapse" but the population is going to fall significantly, we are just seeing the beginning of it, and it'll be a 5-20 year program, as usual. The only ones that make it out will be those like explorers of old, to other lands with worthy women. That's my feeling. I plan to give to people in need moving forward and I think I'll care less and less about the marriage and kids, thing, which oddly enough might be granted when I give absolutely zero fucks about it, lol
The hardest part is becoming successful and not trying to bang girls, when you've been living in a desert for so long.
It certainly goes against my morals and values to have kids in a country that I know has little to no future. I can very much understand.
If agriculture goes under, and it will go under in the next few years if Trump doesn't get serious about it, then this whole capitalist Ponzi scheme of a system will come crashing down like a house of cards.