Simply wanting a virgin wife does not make one a hypocrite, but if a man is not a virgin and then condemns women for the very same flaw, that is the definition of hypocrisy.
The modern day "condemn" and "judge" stuff I find irrelevant, but that could be because I just can't identify with that way of thinking/living your life. The Lord said not to do it so clearly people must, but I find that the way I approach it (and thus it seems to me, why wouldn't others? not that that makes it legitimate) is that I just observe the way people act or carry themselves. This comes up often. Clearly there is only one judge, so if I make a comment on a person, it's not a judgment, since God will judge them. But I will identify things I don't want to be around. Is that judging or condemning? I don't think so, I think that's living life and discerning what is wise to do, or not.
As such, all that the men that point out how important virginity is, all they are doing is saying that there are certain things in life that are big mistakes and very telling of what you should be around, or get yourself into,
given a context. The context here would be quality mate seeking, LTR or marriage, in this discussion. It's not hard to understand that therefore, a man who isn't a virgin is a relatively meaningless thing not only to a woman, but also to the relationship overall,
relative to a woman who isn't. It can not matter, but one is playing with fire even he ignores that in a woman. Mature people realize that all sorts of things in life are unfair or must be accepted, and this is one of them. \
For me, the ideal is clear and I don't argue that - it is the best way. That's been out of the barn for a long time now though, given societal decline and decay. The biggest tragedy and/or sin for a man is to take a girl's virginity under the guise of being there for the long term. That's the real problem. I'm not excusing other people's, or my, behavior by having sex/fornicating with a woman, but if it was with someone who is knowing, willing, and already "has experience" that's not really mattering all that much compared to the other situations for people who earnestly are seeking marriage and good wives, and husbands. Egalitarianism has really gotten us away from shaming women in a way that would help them vastly.
But the actual good ones will follow the voice of reason and obey God's will. They will look for a man who's good for their soul and not just short-term pleasures. That is the fundamental difference and that is the kind of women to look for, whether virgin or not.
Yes, and it's rare. By the time that some of these women find you and/or have humility, the problem is they are in their 30s or unattractive to you physically, in the west. It's rather sad.
Their system only becomes irrational by their own worldview when they think they can do the same at 32. As already said, many Eastern European women are smart enough to figure this out, but Western women are clueless. The brainwashing runs too deep.
Yes, the culture totally sets it up for failure. You could theoretically say, yes women, "OK to go to university but remember you're a spinster by 25" but the truth is that it doesn't play out this way at all, as we all know. We've all seen the videos and talked to all sorts of women. They will not accept that men prefer/desire women 18-23, all the time, at every age. It's like built in failure for at least another 20 years in the west, as a result.
This is clearly not as easy as it seems because such women despite their innocence may be operating on alpha seeking programming to compensate for their inherent insecure, unsure nature.
Sandalwood has these good insights. Too many bad influences and distractions, yes.
I imagine that's why no one wants these fat church girls but tries to pretend its the weight that's the problem.
I'm not sure exactly what your point is but until priests/pastors can be honest about what's going on in the society - and they are dreadfully oblivious or indifferent - we aren't even close to the end of this in the west. They really sit there, even orthodox priests, and can't tell you (or won't, worse) "why there are no young women coming into the church."
Do they not understand human biology, men and women, at all? My feeling is that they are deathly afraid of talking about it. I don't think any man doesn't know this, especially red pill types or strong christian men.
