Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence Thread

I remain utterly unconvinced "AI" is going to Take All The Jobs. It's somewhat useful for consolidating information/acting like a smart search engine (like in Magoo's posts above.) But I think it's far more limited than the technoprophets think.

The real danger is stuff like this, which I saw this on one of my infrequent trips into Twittertown:



"AI" is just the newest iteration of the most dangerous thing the Internet has been doing to us all along: enabling us to create our own reality. Miss that dead family member? No problem, just replicate them with AI tools! Feel lonely? We've got a perfect AI girlfriend built to your exact specifications waiting for you. Don't like goyslop capeshit cinema, fellow based man? It's okay, we can make the movie for you!

This is fundamentally the exact same issue as pornography, that it creates a fantasy alternative to reality, where there is nothing to learn, no struggle, no spiritual engagement or growth; just endless self-indulgence and dopamine injections; your own little pocket-universe of un-reality where you can enjoy fifteen minutes of godhood. When the digital facsimile is real enough, there's no longer any incentive to do reality. The sociological damage all this will cause is immense, utterly beyond comprehension, but doesn't lend itself well to quantification and will happen, or has been happening, slowly enough that the impact will be hard to account before it's far too late, before you have a generation so utterly corrupted, broken, and dehumanized that they make Gen Z look like renaissance men in comparison.

The only thing that I think could turn the tide is a massive, organized, almost certainly ruthless and violent grassroots revolt against the technocracy and its products. But if this were actually going to happen, it would have been years ago. The fact that we've never had a Ted 2.0 who flies drones carrying homemade explosives into the World Economic Forum or something like that is proof that The System is working; or at least, working well enough and placating its subjects well enough that it never goes beyond grumbling on the internet. On a more positive note, at least some people are waking up from this, and they're the kinds of people I see visiting my Orthodox parish every week.
 
I remain utterly unconvinced "AI" is going to Take All The Jobs. It's somewhat useful for consolidating information/acting like a smart search engine (like in Magoo's posts above.) But I think it's far more limited than the technoprophets think.

The real danger is stuff like this, which I saw this on one of my infrequent trips into Twittertown:



"AI" is just the newest iteration of the most dangerous thing the Internet has been doing to us all along: enabling us to create our own reality. Miss that dead family member? No problem, just replicate them with AI tools! Feel lonely? We've got a perfect AI girlfriend built to your exact specifications waiting for you. Don't like goyslop capeshit cinema, fellow based man? It's okay, we can make the movie for you!

This is fundamentally the exact same issue as pornography, that it creates a fantasy alternative to reality, where there is nothing to learn, no struggle, no spiritual engagement or growth; just endless self-indulgence and dopamine injections; your own little pocket-universe of un-reality where you can enjoy fifteen minutes of godhood. When the digital facsimile is real enough, there's no longer any incentive to do reality. The sociological damage all this will cause is immense, utterly beyond comprehension, but doesn't lend itself well to quantification and will happen, or has been happening, slowly enough that the impact will be hard to account before it's far too late, before you have a generation so utterly corrupted, broken, and dehumanized that they make Gen Z look like renaissance men in comparison.

The only thing that I think could turn the tide is a massive, organized, almost certainly ruthless and violent grassroots revolt against the technocracy and its products. But if this were actually going to happen, it would have been years ago. The fact that we've never had a Ted 2.0 who flies drones carrying homemade explosives into the World Economic Forum or something like that is proof that The System is working; or at least, working well enough and placating its subjects well enough that it never goes beyond grumbling on the internet. On a more positive note, at least some people are waking up from this, and they're the kinds of people I see visiting my Orthodox parish every week.


You say all this on an an internet Christian forum to people you are most likely never going to meet or see in real life. Is this all bad because we are 'escaping reality' on an internet message board?

Yet (at least on the old forum) many of us took ideas or knowledge from this unreal world and used it to help us in the real world.

And plenty of people are doing that with AI right now. Or using it to help with brainstorming or even a bible study tool. It's not all doom and gloom mate.
 
Your reply to ice age farmer was wrong. Do you still think AI is a personal assistant? And I easily demonstrate it to you.
I don't know who that is. I maintain my position, though. If your language model is correct, you're in a precarious position, because it essentially has deemed me the most consistent and knowledgeable poster on the forum. It's funny when stuff like that happens to people that doubt the gifts some of us were given.
When they press the execute button of the program they are making. We are done. I don’t think it will work like they think. But for a while it will be bad.
What is your prediction? More doom here.
I remain utterly unconvinced "AI" is going to Take All The Jobs. It's somewhat useful for consolidating information/acting like a smart search engine (like in Magoo's posts above.) But I think it's far more limited than the technoprophets think.
It won't. It might drastically change things in ... 20 years. Not now though. I have explained how I know many times previously. The problem most "bulls" on AI have is that they are unbelievably biased. I've encountered it in real, professional work for over 2 decades and philosophically am a sounder thinker than they, also unbiased on this topic.
Yet (at least on the old forum) many of us took ideas or knowledge from this unreal world and used it to help us in the real world.

And plenty of people are doing that with AI right now. Or using it to help with brainstorming or even a bible study tool. It's not all doom and gloom mate.
Indeed.
 
I don't know who that is. I maintain my position, though.
Which is? That AI is a personal assistant? You keep that position? If you say yes you are lying.

If your language model is correct, you're in a precarious position, because it essentially has deemed me the most consistent and knowledgeable poster on the forum.
You are contradicting yourself. Who is really assuming the language model is correct? me or you?

It's funny when stuff like that happens to people that doubt the gifts some of us were given.
I don´t doubt anything.

What is your prediction? More doom here.
My prediction:

In the future human interaction will be considered a luxury. You will have to pay premium to have human staff.

Deepfakes will become a problem.

AI will replace a lot of jobs. Many people will be left without a means to receive an income. A basic income to people who have no work will be created. This income will come at first like a dream. But as time passes more and more demands and restrictions will be associated with it. Those demands will lead to depopulation. Btw are you for depopulation? Just asking. I bet you are.

Digital currency will play a decisive role on the implementation of demands and restrictions.

AI will have no emotions. It will execute blindly. Worse than germans or yellows.

It won't. It might drastically change things in ... 20 years. Not now though. I have explained how I know many times previously. The problem most "bulls" on AI have is that they are unbelievably biased. I've encountered it in real, professional work for over 2 decades and philosophically am a sounder thinker than they, also unbiased on this topic.
Biased? This is a civilization shift like no other.

AI is being implemented at every levels of government.


 
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