Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence Thread

I remain utterly unconvinced "AI" is going to Take All The Jobs. It's somewhat useful for consolidating information/acting like a smart search engine (like in Magoo's posts above.) But I think it's far more limited than the technoprophets think.

The real danger is stuff like this, which I saw this on one of my infrequent trips into Twittertown:



"AI" is just the newest iteration of the most dangerous thing the Internet has been doing to us all along: enabling us to create our own reality. Miss that dead family member? No problem, just replicate them with AI tools! Feel lonely? We've got a perfect AI girlfriend built to your exact specifications waiting for you. Don't like goyslop capeshit cinema, fellow based man? It's okay, we can make the movie for you!

This is fundamentally the exact same issue as pornography, that it creates a fantasy alternative to reality, where there is nothing to learn, no struggle, no spiritual engagement or growth; just endless self-indulgence and dopamine injections; your own little pocket-universe of un-reality where you can enjoy fifteen minutes of godhood. When the digital facsimile is real enough, there's no longer any incentive to do reality. The sociological damage all this will cause is immense, utterly beyond comprehension, but doesn't lend itself well to quantification and will happen, or has been happening, slowly enough that the impact will be hard to account before it's far too late, before you have a generation so utterly corrupted, broken, and dehumanized that they make Gen Z look like renaissance men in comparison.

The only thing that I think could turn the tide is a massive, organized, almost certainly ruthless and violent grassroots revolt against the technocracy and its products. But if this were actually going to happen, it would have been years ago. The fact that we've never had a Ted 2.0 who flies drones carrying homemade explosives into the World Economic Forum or something like that is proof that The System is working; or at least, working well enough and placating its subjects well enough that it never goes beyond grumbling on the internet. On a more positive note, at least some people are waking up from this, and they're the kinds of people I see visiting my Orthodox parish every week.
 
I remain utterly unconvinced "AI" is going to Take All The Jobs. It's somewhat useful for consolidating information/acting like a smart search engine (like in Magoo's posts above.) But I think it's far more limited than the technoprophets think.

The real danger is stuff like this, which I saw this on one of my infrequent trips into Twittertown:



"AI" is just the newest iteration of the most dangerous thing the Internet has been doing to us all along: enabling us to create our own reality. Miss that dead family member? No problem, just replicate them with AI tools! Feel lonely? We've got a perfect AI girlfriend built to your exact specifications waiting for you. Don't like goyslop capeshit cinema, fellow based man? It's okay, we can make the movie for you!

This is fundamentally the exact same issue as pornography, that it creates a fantasy alternative to reality, where there is nothing to learn, no struggle, no spiritual engagement or growth; just endless self-indulgence and dopamine injections; your own little pocket-universe of un-reality where you can enjoy fifteen minutes of godhood. When the digital facsimile is real enough, there's no longer any incentive to do reality. The sociological damage all this will cause is immense, utterly beyond comprehension, but doesn't lend itself well to quantification and will happen, or has been happening, slowly enough that the impact will be hard to account before it's far too late, before you have a generation so utterly corrupted, broken, and dehumanized that they make Gen Z look like renaissance men in comparison.

The only thing that I think could turn the tide is a massive, organized, almost certainly ruthless and violent grassroots revolt against the technocracy and its products. But if this were actually going to happen, it would have been years ago. The fact that we've never had a Ted 2.0 who flies drones carrying homemade explosives into the World Economic Forum or something like that is proof that The System is working; or at least, working well enough and placating its subjects well enough that it never goes beyond grumbling on the internet. On a more positive note, at least some people are waking up from this, and they're the kinds of people I see visiting my Orthodox parish every week.


You say all this on an an internet Christian forum to people you are most likely never going to meet or see in real life. Is this all bad because we are 'escaping reality' on an internet message board?

Yet (at least on the old forum) many of us took ideas or knowledge from this unreal world and used it to help us in the real world.

And plenty of people are doing that with AI right now. Or using it to help with brainstorming or even a bible study tool. It's not all doom and gloom mate.
 
Your reply to ice age farmer was wrong. Do you still think AI is a personal assistant? And I easily demonstrate it to you.
I don't know who that is. I maintain my position, though. If your language model is correct, you're in a precarious position, because it essentially has deemed me the most consistent and knowledgeable poster on the forum. It's funny when stuff like that happens to people that doubt the gifts some of us were given.
When they press the execute button of the program they are making. We are done. I don’t think it will work like they think. But for a while it will be bad.
What is your prediction? More doom here.
I remain utterly unconvinced "AI" is going to Take All The Jobs. It's somewhat useful for consolidating information/acting like a smart search engine (like in Magoo's posts above.) But I think it's far more limited than the technoprophets think.
It won't. It might drastically change things in ... 20 years. Not now though. I have explained how I know many times previously. The problem most "bulls" on AI have is that they are unbelievably biased. I've encountered it in real, professional work for over 2 decades and philosophically am a sounder thinker than they, also unbiased on this topic.
Yet (at least on the old forum) many of us took ideas or knowledge from this unreal world and used it to help us in the real world.

And plenty of people are doing that with AI right now. Or using it to help with brainstorming or even a bible study tool. It's not all doom and gloom mate.
Indeed.
 
I don't know who that is. I maintain my position, though.
Which is? That AI is a personal assistant? You keep that position? If you say yes you are lying.

If your language model is correct, you're in a precarious position, because it essentially has deemed me the most consistent and knowledgeable poster on the forum.
You are contradicting yourself. Who is really assuming the language model is correct? me or you?

It's funny when stuff like that happens to people that doubt the gifts some of us were given.
I don´t doubt anything.

What is your prediction? More doom here.
My prediction:

In the future human interaction will be considered a luxury. You will have to pay premium to have human staff.

Deepfakes will become a problem.

AI will replace a lot of jobs. Many people will be left without a means to receive an income. A basic income to people who have no work will be created. This income will come at first like a dream. But as time passes more and more demands and restrictions will be associated with it. Those demands will lead to depopulation. Btw are you for depopulation? Just asking. I bet you are.

Digital currency will play a decisive role on the implementation of demands and restrictions.

AI will have no emotions. It will execute blindly. Worse than germans or yellows.

It won't. It might drastically change things in ... 20 years. Not now though. I have explained how I know many times previously. The problem most "bulls" on AI have is that they are unbelievably biased. I've encountered it in real, professional work for over 2 decades and philosophically am a sounder thinker than they, also unbiased on this topic.
Biased? This is a civilization shift like no other.

AI is being implemented at every levels of government.


 
Which is?
Ice Age Farmer, don't know who that is.
me or you?
You believe in the LLM, so do you agree with its assessment of me? It was pretty glowing.
In the future human interaction will be considered a luxury. You will have to pay premium to have human staff.
That is an interesting prediction. I disagree, but I don't think it's crazy.
Deepfakes will become a problem.
I agree with that, and that even has benefits.
AI will replace a lot of jobs. Many people will be left without a means to receive an income. A basic income to people who have no work will be created. This income will come at first like a dream. But as time passes more and more demands and restrictions will be associated with it. Those demands will lead to depopulation. Btw are you for depopulation? Just asking. I bet you are.
By what time frame? Notice I said that it won't really happen until at least 20. You can replace some things and have an assistant for the next 5, but that's it. It's mostly, nearly all, marketing and lies by the people who want it to be true. But it isn't.

I have predictions on what will happen with the stablecoin market and effectively, CBDCs or what that means to most. You can check my posts or ask your friend, again - and include "depopulation" if you wish. I have made clear statements on my position there.
 
Ice Age Farmer, don't know who that is.
Ok...
You believe in the LLM, so do you agree with its assessment of me? It was pretty glowing.
I agree with you. AI is bullshit. Hehehehe. Dude I just know you like bitcoins. And write strange shit. One family member I have has a degree in Philosophy. You should see them debate middle east. The Shiites the sunites the wallabis. FFS it´s all CIA. They give me headaches with so much useless theory.
That is an interesting prediction. I disagree, but I don't think it's crazy.
This prediction is widely known by eyes wide shut elite. I know some of them. Or knew.

Minute cities will also happen.

I agree with that, and that even has benefits.

By what time frame? Notice I said that it won't really happen until at least 20. You can replace some things and have an assistant for the next 5, but that's it. It's mostly, nearly all, marketing and lies by the people who want it to be true. But it isn't.
Don´t know. They are implementing in governments. Giving training to people to use AI.

My opinion changed with AI. When I saw a video of Musk where he would say AI could make medical diagnosis. It actually can.

Check AI in medicine. Whenever you are sick write the symptoms there. And check the answers. If you make exams. It´s accuracy is higher than human doctors.

I think doctors are already following AI guidelines. In the near future. Doctors will only validate AI diagnosis. Just like in supermarket cashiers. You have one girl for 5 automatic cashiers. It will be one doctor for 10 patients. AI will do everything and doctor will spend 30 seconds validating AI diagnosis with patient.

I heard judges are also using AI for court decisions.

I have predictions on what will happen with the stablecoin market and effectively, CBDCs or what that means to most. You can check my posts or ask your friend, again - and include "depopulation" if you wish. I have made clear statements on my position there.

Dude i´m not making a profile on you. I simply used AI to demonstrate your assertion was wrong. And we are talking about public AI. The shit they have on those supercomputers must be much more impressive. And that´s the problem. How will for example doctors take you for a ride with expensive abusive useless exams? If they have to compete with AI. AI is honest. The elite will have to do something.

Money will be programmable. And they will insert the features they want in money. They are already doing it in Nigeria. with E Naira. This is not what will happen. It already happened. And it failed miserably.


CBDC: The End of Money​


 
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