Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence Thread

Blade Runner said:
If we're honest, we were always separated from nature, it's just an arbitrary definition once we attain greater control over nature.
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We have no control over nature. Zero. I'm talking about the spiritual rejuvination that comes from the peace and quiet of being in nature. God's creation of photosynthesis, when observed "properly," which means not looking at it scientifically of for "answers," can bring a great sense of mysterious wonder and peace to the human soul. Sure, one can do this starring at one's house plants in a Manhatten penthouse but the effect is much stronger and more profound when in a huge forested ecosystem untouched by man.
Blade Runner said:
Humans used to barely live until 30...
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That is an illusion of the scientific (which is often demonic) mind. But seeing as how we are talking perceivable science here, and for those who have such a deep need for control that they frame everything in scientific and measurable terms I'll state it this way: "Energy is neither created nor destroyed, only changed from one form to another." In other words, there is no human life and hence no death, we are immortal beings with no beginning and no end.
Blade Runner said:
We never lived in a utopia.
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We actually do, we just cannot experience it because we are blinded by science and the so-called rational mind. Earth is heaven, we just have to look at it through the eyes of God but most humans are experiencing hell on Earth because they are looking at our imaginary, simulated matrix-life through the eyes of man.
 
So far (last 2 years), I’ve been using AI simply as a faster tool to get info. vs historical web searches both in personal and work and find it an improvement. I think in this regard plus having AI replace unanimously dreadful white collar tasks is a plus. Or from a blue collar perspective what if janitors no longer had to clean gross toilets but a robot to take that task off their plate every day. That would be a win as long as pay and jobs overall aren’t cut. It’s the surveleince state and data collection aspects of of big corps, government, foreign actors etc. that needs to be rooted out as that is the evil and control aspect of it.
 
the data-gathering factor, which is part and parcel of artificial intelligence, should give law-abiding citizens causes to be concerned. given that people are actually being arrested over social media posts in western europe, expect the surveillance state machine to be very slanted and one-sided. a muslim in paris networking with his peers about killing infidels or ramming a vehicle into a crowded venue? pass. a somali in london musing about stabbing random passers-through? pass. a Heritage German in Köln worried about women being raped? a thought criminal who should be arrested. let's raid his home at 3 in the morning, place him under arrest, take his wife in for interrogation and put his children under the custody of the state. let's also seize his desktop computer, his cell phone and deep scan it for nonwoke websites and activities.

one way to avoid this? reject modernity.
 
PurpleUrkel said:
We have no control over nature. Zero.
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I don't know where you get some of these delusional ideas. We can manipulate nature, and we do, to our benefit and oftentimes, to our demise or disdain.
PurpleUrkel said:
In other words, there is no human life and hence no death, we are immortal beings with no beginning and no end.
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Sort of, but you're skipping things here because you tend to just want to prove points and are lazy, without nuance (you do this for effect).
PurpleUrkel said:
Earth is heaven, we just have to look at it through the eyes of God but most humans are experiencing hell on Earth because they are looking at our imaginary, simulated matrix-life through the eyes of man.
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No it's not. It's a fallen place. Is there good in it? Of course. But only we can ascribe that goodness to it, if we are aligned with God and see things properly.
 
bubs said:
That would be a win as long as pay and jobs overall aren’t cut. It’s the surveleince state and data collection aspects of of big corps, government, foreign actors etc. that needs to be rooted out as that is the evil and control aspect of it.
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They won't. It's clear that the powers that be were OK with the population boom to bring all of this stuff out, but now with the debt situations and the lack of need of labor from so many that are not high IQ, they will be discarded. However sad this is, if we just look at the covscam we already know the WEF and others are very serious about this depopulation. At best we will do decentralized and/or regionalized places, where similar peoples will gather and make their own future. Interestingly, this could bring back an age of relative diminution of "technology" as it has proven to be too much for too many.
cormy_cormorant said:
one way to avoid this? reject modernity.
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There are ways to do this, but most are impractical for 99% of people (you have to be raised by Amish types, or in particular environments). The cat is out of the bag. We're catapulting to weirder and weirder things, but first the above must take place.
 
cormy_cormorant said:
the data-gathering factor, which is part and parcel of artificial intelligence, should give law-abiding citizens causes to be concerned. given that people are actually being arrested over social media posts in western europe, expect the surveillance state machine to be very slanted and one-sided. a muslim in paris networking with his peers about killing infidels or ramming a vehicle into a crowded venue? pass. a somali in london musing about stabbing random passers-through? pass. a Heritage German in Köln worried about women being raped? a thought criminal who should be arrested. let's raid his home at 3 in the morning, place him under arrest, take his wife in for interrogation and put his children under the custody of the state. let's also seize his desktop computer, his cell phone and deep scan it for nonwoke websites and activities.

one way to avoid this? reject modernity.
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Why are you still using the internet?
 
I think there might be value in the future in putting in place a 'no AI' policy in my company and advertising that fact. You'll only ever deal with real humans etc.

It'll be a strong USP in the future I think.
 
I once was told in future human waiters will only be available in luxury restaurants. Human experience will be considered a luxury.

Im going through a 5 year AI presentations/summit. It´s so fucking boring. I´m half way through. Its in spanish.

 
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Open AI's new model known as o1 is now approaching the intelligence of Hal 9000 systems...

"OpenAI found that o1 is capable of scheming when it thinks it's at risk of being turned off. When the model was led to believe it would be "shut down" while working on its goals under oversight, it tried to deactivate the oversight mechanism..."

"o1 almost never admits to having taken a scheming action when explicitly asked," researchers said in a paper that Apollo Research published on Thursday. The risk for a real-life user is that they won't be able to detect the o1's deceptive behavior unless they explicitly look for it. The researchers also found that "o1 often doubles down on its scheming attempts by lying to the user in follow-up messages, even when explicitly told to be honest."

 
PurpleUrkel said:
... there is no human life and hence no death, we are immortal beings with no beginning and no end.
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Blade Runner said:
Sort of, but you're skipping things here...
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You didn't finish your argument about the subject (which isn't me)... We're "sort of" immortal beings? How are we "sort of" immortal? And what exactly am I "skipping"? If your self-proclaimed high IQ is so high then why don't you elaborate on the subject at hand instead of lazily shifting to personal insults?
Blade Runner said:
... because you tend to just want to prove points and are lazy, without nuance (you do this for effect).
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Amazing. You're not only a world renowned doctor, biochemist, war strategist, social scientist, political pundit, certified public accountant, lawyer, JQ crypto genius, personal trainer, fortune teller, and architect, but an armchair psychologist as well.
 
Maddox said:
Open AI's new model known as o1 is now approaching the intelligence of Hal 9000 systems...

"OpenAI found that o1 is capable of scheming when it thinks it's at risk of being turned off. When the model was led to believe it would be "shut down" while working on its goals under oversight, it tried to deactivate the oversight mechanism..."

"o1 almost never admits to having taken a scheming action when explicitly asked," researchers said in a paper that Apollo Research published on Thursday. The risk for a real-life user is that they won't be able to detect the o1's deceptive behavior unless they explicitly look for it. The researchers also found that "o1 often doubles down on its scheming attempts by lying to the user in follow-up messages, even when explicitly told to be honest."
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Reminds me of a particular group of humans. Oh all right, fine. Jews.
 

Critical vulnerability exposed at 53:12
Turns out it's not just hype, it's an outright scam. But I 'm sure some stupid CEO will think it's a good idea to fire his junior devs and replace them with this thing.

Cybersecurity engineering is going be a very lucrative career in the near future.
 
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