Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence Thread
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It's not intelligent at all, it's just being totally stupid with an extreme amount of capacity.
I have an analogy for this; imagine you're standing in front of a gigantic apartment building at night. You are given a simple task, to contact the only person that is home in the entire complex, which spans 100k's of apartments. You are given no clues whatsoever as to where that person lives. As you approach the building you notice that the lights are on in only one single window. You make an assumption that this might be where the person is! You count; floor 357, number 81 from the left, take the elevator and knock on the door.
"AI" per today, which is not really AI would simply knock on all doors in the most effective way possible, with no bias towards the window with the light. (unless specifically pre-programmed) Depending on the task however it can still be much faster than a human, since it has extreme capacity. (billions on minions in this case for example) "Thinking on your feet," which even single cells life can do means making multiple real time decisions where the potential options can range in the billions even. Only quantum computers can do this effectively, hence this must be a feature of the brain and intelligence...
There's a huge body of data tying dementia to things like glycation and insulin resistance. In other words the modern industrial diet and lifestyle. I thought that was common knowledge on the forum! You can find 1000's of studies on this; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7794665/
This is going completely off-topic, but dementia has been recorded for thousands of years.
That's true for many things, but it says little of the total prevalence. The point is that it's something you can do a lot to avoid, that much is definitely proven. People where fat here and there also before modernity, but not "50 percent" like today.
When I say environment I mean all things included coming from the outside of us (air, water, food, poisons, etc.) It's also not the only malady that essentially pops up in an industrialized world.
Like Johnnyvee says, there is a lot of reaserch out there about it. I have several books but an internet search works too. Here's a study I just found in a simple search for example:
"Summary:
Did the ancient Greeks and Romans experience Alzheimer's? Medical texts from 2,500 years ago rarely mention severe memory loss, suggesting today's widespread dementia stems from modern environments and lifestyles, a new analysis shows."
Sorry for going off topic of AI. It's a more general criticism of technology/industrialization. Often we fix one thing only to have others pop up because of our solutions. It's like a zero sum game.
Regardless if dementia is more prevalent now than before, it doesn't detract from the genuine medical benefits of bio-engineering. Growing new skin or brain cells has a huge range of valuable medical purposes, but it is a shame people are trying to use this tech with "AI" to try and create fake humans. The Cyborg stuff will fail miserably because it's just so unnatural.
I don't think organ transplants or skin grafts will outweigh the satanic horrors that bio-engineering will inevitably be used for. Knowing how the powers of this world operate, even the organ transplants and skin grafts will be used for evil somehow.
Anyhow, nothing we can do to stop these developments, let's just see what happens, may God help us.
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Interesting new tool what allows you to create short text/image to video sequences. (You get 30 free goes) It's slow in free mode and their content policy is ridiculously PC. But I'm pretty impressed with the results! If this continues we can make full feature films that look just like a Hollywood production within 5 years or so. Have a go and see for yourself.
PS; can't upload the ones I made since they're too large. Is there any way we can adjust this? Would like to have 10mb files possible!
Max upload size is 1 GiB
Yeah, but I meant directly on the forum.
This reminds me of Star Trek: Voyager Season 3 Episode 22 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708954/), in which the holographic doctor programs for himself a holographic fantasy family so he can learn more about normal life. After visiting the simulation, the half-Klingon chief engineer tells him his family is too perfect and doesn't present the kind of challenges people typically face in their family life. She reprogrammed it to present some adversity and hostility, giving the doctor something to work with, as it were.
Every woman I know was altered by this bloody Klingon engineer. It takes a lot of work, to repair it.
The quality of video is pretty remarkable with Luma, and this is just a taste of what's to come. Just for fun I uploaded an image of Roosh to see what it came up with. Hard to tell the difference between the real deal...
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What I think is a distinctly possible scenario for AI, which I haven’t seen discussed much here lately, is a sort of Tower of Babel scenario where AI bots and media make it impossible, or at least unfeasible, to distinguish reality from digital fiction.
What happens when you can’t tell if anybody on social media is real or a bot? If videos you see online are complete fiction made by “AI”? If even your friends and family messaging you are real or if their account has been hacked by a bot impersonating them? If a job applicant for your company is a WFH real person, or an imposter bot made by a rival company to steal your trade secrets and harm your business?
We may be rapidly approaching a point where noise drowns out the signal, so to speak. Where nothing digital can be trusted. The consequences of this would be totally world-altering. It would undo, perhaps permanently, the digital world constructed around us. It would constitute an apocalyptic scenario to the technocratic utopian vision.
I could even see so-called Luddites intentionally working towards this end, or very intelligent people working in the AI sphere pleading for it to all be shut down. The fact is, you’ll never convince people to voluntarily give up their smartphone-centric lifestyle. Only a tiny minority of people even start to question the whole Machine system. But what happens when nothing on your phone can be trusted? Where relying on it puts your life in danger? When you can't trust anything that isn't happening before your very eyes, or written on a page printed before the 2020s?
This could end up being the best-case scenario. It's hard to imagine the globohomo regime surviving for very long without the high-tech tools they use to implement and maintain control. But beyond that, it may be the only thing that could break the spell we're all under, short of much more painful scenarios like World War III.
What happens when you can’t tell if anybody on social media is real or a bot? If videos you see online are complete fiction made by “AI”? If even your friends and family messaging you are real or if their account has been hacked by a bot impersonating them? If a job applicant for your company is a WFH real person, or an imposter bot made by a rival company to steal your trade secrets and harm your business?
We may be rapidly approaching a point where noise drowns out the signal, so to speak. Where nothing digital can be trusted. The consequences of this would be totally world-altering. It would undo, perhaps permanently, the digital world constructed around us. It would constitute an apocalyptic scenario to the technocratic utopian vision.
I could even see so-called Luddites intentionally working towards this end, or very intelligent people working in the AI sphere pleading for it to all be shut down. The fact is, you’ll never convince people to voluntarily give up their smartphone-centric lifestyle. Only a tiny minority of people even start to question the whole Machine system. But what happens when nothing on your phone can be trusted? Where relying on it puts your life in danger? When you can't trust anything that isn't happening before your very eyes, or written on a page printed before the 2020s?
This could end up being the best-case scenario. It's hard to imagine the globohomo regime surviving for very long without the high-tech tools they use to implement and maintain control. But beyond that, it may be the only thing that could break the spell we're all under, short of much more painful scenarios like World War III.
I think this could work to our advantage. When nothing can be trusted you'll have to think for yourself whether you like it or not. There's still an objective truth out there...The content policy of AI image/video/voice generators are extremely PC at the moment. You have to be clever to work around it if you want to create non-PC content. Will there be alternative servers available in time? Can they be accessed from the West? (or just China, Russia etc.) These are all issues that will become crucial!
Btw; I'm very impressed with the Hedra tool. Try the image to video (with added text) function. Here's just an example of things you can make. Get an image that's as close up as possible to make it work...
I have both predicted and hoped for this as well. We already have information problems, so I don't see that as being as big of an issue for anyone who mattered anyway, to be honest. The biggest change in life would be the personal side of connecting people technologically. The dating apps, things like OF, etc will all be so spammy or put into question that only helps in that people will have to actually go out to places and meet again. I hope that happens. I think a lot of things will converge and coming out the other end will be better, but there will probably be a number of tradeoffs, as usual, and I'm also guessing a population decline.
Been using chatgpt and voice dictation this morning to create a bunch of documents in order to kick start some new projects that we have planned.
Compared to me typing them out myself, I saved so much time and the quality of the editing and input I was able to do in real time was really impressive. It even changed a few things correctly for me on (what appeared to be) it's own initiative. Smart.
I estimate that I probably saved an hour or two just putting this simple but time consuming task together this morning and I'm only using the free base version. It just leaves me to be an ideas guy and dictate to my computer what I want and then just watch it happen in front of my eyes.
Smart or not, the potential for this tech to replace a lot of mundane human office work is huge.
Compared to me typing them out myself, I saved so much time and the quality of the editing and input I was able to do in real time was really impressive. It even changed a few things correctly for me on (what appeared to be) it's own initiative. Smart.
I estimate that I probably saved an hour or two just putting this simple but time consuming task together this morning and I'm only using the free base version. It just leaves me to be an ideas guy and dictate to my computer what I want and then just watch it happen in front of my eyes.
Smart or not, the potential for this tech to replace a lot of mundane human office work is huge.
