Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War



I was highly skeptical about the negotiations when they started - I still think they're going to be more difficult and take longer than many think - but the sheer amount of previously unthinkable truth about the war being publicly stated by Trump and Vance (still limited by questions of diplomacy, saving face, etc - quite understandable) makes me cautiously optimistic that true negotiations are possible and the new American government is going into this with serious intentions of finding a solution. That doesn't guarantee that one will be found, or found quickly, but it's something that was systemically impossible under the previous admin.
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Why Moscow is serious about current negotiations with the US: The keyword here is 'respect'.

1. Russia does not believe in the full sovereignty of the EU, let alone Ukraine. The US holds a commanding lead in military and economic power, makes all the major decisions, and expects Brussels and Kyiv to follow suit;

2. Negotiations with Brussels or Kiev are seen as a smokescreen. The real sovereign is in Washington — if the US genuinely wanted talks, it would engage directly. If, instead, it insists that Russia negotiate with the EU or Ukraine, Moscow sees this as a sign of insincerity. The same logic applies if figures like von der Leyen or Zelensky had been brought to Riyadh;

3. Moscow is unwavering in its belief that it has 'geopolitical interests' — and that these must be respected. This means having the right to set red lines and expect them to be acknowledged by peers. Russian FM Lavrov stated that in Riyadh, both sides agreed that each country is entitled to its own national interest — a seemingly basic recognition, but a major departure from previous US policy;

4. You heard it here first: If Russia feels respected, it will be open to concessions — so long as they do not threaten its sovereignty or its core 'geopolitical interests.' Yes, that includes its relationship with China. While Moscow respects Beijing, it is concerned with China upholding US sanctions and still seeks a multi-track foreign policy and may thus be ready for some concessions.

If Washington, however, wants to keep pushing Russia closer to China and Iran, revitalize BRICS, and further alienate the Global South, it is free to continue ‘isolating’ and ‘boxing in’ Moscow — sticking to all the wonderful tenets of Joe Biden’s foreign policy.
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Lavrov likely demanded that the US would keep James Bakers' promise to Gorbachev back in 1990.


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Seems unrealistic. The NATO expansion is "fait accompli" and there's nothing to be done about it now - there's no mechanism to expel a member state from the alliance, so the expansion can't be reversed. What is more realistic, is the withdraw of American troops from the east NATO countries, but even then some will have to remain, because over the years we've built a lot of military infrastructure there and not all of it can be abandoned.
 
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Seems unrealistic. The NATO expansion is "fait accompli" and there's nothing to be done about it now - there's no mechanism to expel a member state from the alliance, so the expansion can't be reversed. What is more realistic, is the withdraw of American troops from the east NATO countries, but even then some will have to remain, because over the years we've built a lot of military infrastructure there and not all of it can be abandoned.
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A much easier solution.
The USA can just leave NATO.....at which point NATO becomes a paper tiger.
 
Today is the 3rd anniversary of the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022.
About 13 different prime ministers and leaders of various European countries and Canada are visiting Kiev today.
I think they know the USA is withdrawing both financial and military support very soon, and are scrambling to find a solution.
Problems is they have little money and weapons left if they go it alone without the USA.


apnews.com

Western leaders visit Kyiv and pledge military support against Russia on the war's third anniversary

Ukraine marked the bleakest anniversary yet of its war against the Russia invasion. Ukrainian forces are under severe pressure on the battlefield, and U.S.
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CBS News Margaret Brennan interviewed Trump's trusted advisor and Russia-Ukraine envoy Steve Witkoff about his 3.5 hour meeting with Putin. Witkoff talked about Trump's advice when meeting Putin: trust building begins with good communication. Margaret look concerned about Trump's goal of peace negotiations. Edit. Video is set to skip to 5 minutes 14 seconds mark.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Did you have an intelligence officer or anyone else with you? That’s an extraordinary amount of face time with Putin.
STEVE WITKOFF: I had...it was just me.
MARGARET BRENNAN: It was just you.

How odd...she asked him if he brought an intel officer with him for the Putin interview.

 
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Caduceus said:
Today is the 3rd anniversary of the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022.
About 13 different prime ministers and leaders of various European countries and Canada are visiting Kiev today.
I think they know the USA is withdrawing both financial and military support very soon, and are scrambling to find a solution.
Problems is they have little money and weapons left if they go it alone without the USA.


apnews.com

Western leaders visit Kyiv and pledge military support against Russia on the war's third anniversary

Ukraine marked the bleakest anniversary yet of its war against the Russia invasion. Ukrainian forces are under severe pressure on the battlefield, and U.S.
apnews.com apnews.com
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Trying hard to reach those deagel.com population predictions for 2025.
 
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