Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War

The war is finished. It’s obvious as day. The war was a miscalculation on Russia’s part. I don’t know and no one else does what happened behind the scenes. You won’t be told this but that’s what it is. A big mysterious mistake.

Seems we’re back to square one in rhetoric. NATO encroachment. It’s so retarded I don’t even want to discuss NATO.

It’s amazing the slop we’re fed. The slop from the government, and the slop from the hysterical retarded populace coming up with convoluted theories about Russians being commie animals destroying the proud democratic Ukrainian whites for fun, or Russians ushering in a new golden age through 5D Christian geopolitics.

Let’s look at the facts.

  • Russia invades Ukraine.
  • The war is half-assed. Oil keeps flowing to Europe. Russia withdraws troops from Kiev. Says mobilization is not necessary until it’s forced to mobilize 300k after strategic retreats. Let’s domestic mercenaries “prove themselves”. Absolute clown show.
  • Negotiations with Ukraine people like Boris Johnson can magically derail. Our politicians are useless in tackling domestic grooming gangs, yet super competent in how peace negotiations go.
  • Europe takes a unified stance in support of Ukraine. Somehow there’s a huge shortage of weapons of war but the war continues to this day. Europe refuses to let Russia “win” for whatever reason, though doesn’t do enough, but yet somehow does the bare minimum. Fascinating.
  • Russia says they will do business with those who are willing. Putin literally implies white people, who he calls the golden billion, have some unfair hegemony over world resources and there needs to be multipolarity. I actually agree with the need for multipolarity.
  • All the populist leaders are extremely alarmed by the Ukraine War. Everyone seems to hate it. Hungary hates it. China hates it. Turkey hates it. Everyone is just so incredibly concerned about the human cost. Somehow no one can end the war. The only way this war can be ended is by America withdrawing support. Yet people say America has lost its power somehow.
  • Russia, who’s not a gas station, is forced to sell and smuggle its oil at a discount. This oil gets resold back to the west. The most incredible thing here is all the stories about Russia being bullied by India and China into giving even better deals. Nice free market we got. This is also considering it was already dirt cheap when it was being sold directly to Europe. Russia is so desperate that even the Saudis have been getting upset recently.
  • To this day I have no idea what any of these countries have done to create real multipolarity. Obviously they rearranged their financial assets to some degree, perhaps some supply chains were reviewed, etc. Like stockpiling beans to prepare for the recession.
  • To add insult to injury for me as a white man we have these “people” from these countries, India in particular, spouting how white politicians don’t “respect the brown man and constantly tell him what to do”. My race is not giving you commands, Abdul and Harjeet, you two faced POS. My race doesn’t have any representation and you know it.
  • After a whole bunch of time wasting everyone is rejoiced Trump is elected and will somehow negotiate peace. People are and should be confused on how. No one has any idea why any of this is happening. No one has any idea why no one is doing what they should be doing. It’s an absolute joke.

Peace is going to happen if you read between the lines. The only people that want the war are the Jews it seems. No one, including Russia, wants it. Everyone, in typical fashion, is absolutely powerless to do anything about it.
Now tell me we don’t live in total Jew Order.
 
Sandalwood Peak said:
The war is finished. It’s obvious as day. The war was a miscalculation on Russia’s part. I don’t know and no one else does what happened behind the scenes. You won’t be told this but that’s what it is. A big mysterious mistake.

Seems we’re back to square one in rhetoric. NATO encroachment. It’s so retarded I don’t even want to discuss NATO.

It’s amazing the slop we’re fed. The slop from the government, and the slop from the hysterical retarded populace coming up with convoluted theories about Russians being commie animals destroying the proud democratic Ukrainian whites for fun, or Russians ushering in a new golden age through 5D Christian geopolitics.

Let’s look at the facts.

  • Russia invades Ukraine.
  • The war is half-assed. Oil keeps flowing to Europe. Russia withdraws troops from Kiev. Says mobilization is not necessary until it’s forced to mobilize 300k after strategic retreats. Let’s domestic mercenaries “prove themselves”. Absolute clown show.
  • Negotiations with Ukraine people like Boris Johnson can magically derail. Our politicians are useless in tackling domestic grooming gangs, yet super competent in how peace negotiations go.
  • Europe takes a unified stance in support of Ukraine. Somehow there’s a huge shortage of weapons of war but the war continues to this day. Europe refuses to let Russia “win” for whatever reason, though doesn’t do enough, but yet somehow does the bare minimum. Fascinating.
  • Russia says they will do business with those who are willing. Putin literally implies white people, who he calls the golden billion, have some unfair hegemony over world resources and there needs to be multipolarity. I actually agree with the need for multipolarity.
  • All the populist leaders are extremely alarmed by the Ukraine War. Everyone seems to hate it. Hungary hates it. China hates it. Turkey hates it. Everyone is just so incredibly concerned about the human cost. Somehow no one can end the war. The only way this war can be ended is by America withdrawing support. Yet people say America has lost its power somehow.
  • Russia, who’s not a gas station, is forced to sell and smuggle its oil at a discount. This oil gets resold back to the west. The most incredible thing here is all the stories about Russia being bullied by India and China into giving even better deals. Nice free market we got. This is also considering it was already dirt cheap when it was being sold directly to Europe. Russia is so desperate that even the Saudis have been getting upset recently.
  • To this day I have no idea what any of these countries have done to create real multipolarity. Obviously they rearranged their financial assets to some degree, perhaps some supply chains were reviewed, etc. Like stockpiling beans to prepare for the recession.
  • To add insult to injury for me as a white man we have these “people” from these countries, India in particular, spouting how white politicians don’t “respect the brown man and constantly tell him what to do”. My race is not giving you commands, Abdul and Harjeet, you two faced POS. My race doesn’t have any representation and you know it.
  • After a whole bunch of time wasting everyone is rejoiced Trump is elected and will somehow negotiate peace. People are and should be confused on how. No one has any idea why any of this is happening. No one has any idea why no one is doing what they should be doing. It’s an absolute joke.

Peace is going to happen if you read between the lines. The only people that want the war are the Jews it seems. No one, including Russia, wants it. Everyone, in typical fashion, is absolutely powerless to do anything about it.
Now tell me we don’t live in total Jew Order.
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Multipolarity in the New East / BRICS context is a continuation of Soviet unionization. A collectivizing ideology where each region will supposedly fulfill its own needs and be in charge of its own resources and have its own currency. Speculation is not absent from this as their entire idea of multipolarity hinges upon economic realities and not natural habitats and manifest destiny.

True essential multipolarity (spheres of influence) is the absence of globalism in all its forms, because each culture / ethnicity / nationality / race can only express themselves if they are unburdened by outsiders and allowed to flourish in their own unique environment.

This means the complete and utter rejection of capitalism, communism, and any other dialectic that emerge out of the enlightenment and age of "liberty". I would say that we can look at each "ism," like colonialism and imperialism, as functional from the White Christian imperative, but easily corrupted and backfired upon by jewish interlopers who live and breed through speculative interests, without which they would merely be beggars in a shtetl.

So none of these countries have done anything to create real multipolarity. Russia would not be in a desire to mix itself into oblivion and prop up African mud republics, China would not be an ever-consuming state and practice communist population methods of cramming people into squalor and having empty cities and regions at the same time, The United States would not be exporting its filth and waging war on its own people, the EU would not be committing collective long-term suicide, the Middle East would have made proper borders for all the stateless peoples like the Kurds and the Assyrians instead of having constant semitic bloodletting, and South America would be doing something to undo the last few centuries of ignorance by attempting to allow Catholicism to coexist with cannibal heathens.

The only initiative to ever let each race have their own lands and express their own was the Tripartite alliance of Germany, Italy, and Japan. The Europeans wanted to assist the Japanese in removing all White influences from the Pacific, they helped the Arabs with becoming self-sufficient on their own (removing the French from Syria/Lebanon), the Asiatics with becoming free of the Soviets and the gulags, the Africans to be left alone and not be forced into the 20th century, and the jews to be isolated where they could not harm anyone but continue to live themselves. Until another collective force is put together to attempt this justification of biological boundaries, we will see nothing but haphazard clownery at the hands of the descendants of the WW2 victors bungling their fabled utopian plans into daily nightmares of abhorred violence and exponentiating racial hatred.

Had the resistant agenda of the third position political expression kept going, whatever tragedies that would have occurred along the way would have been a drop in the bucket compared to what we've seen since at the hands of the "good guys," and the outcome would have been a far superior world of peace and growth and innovation in line with nature and more abiding by the Will of the Almighty.

The whole thing, west and east, needs to be reset with the destruction of the financial hydra as the foremost concern, then ideologically cleansed, then the natural segregationist tendencies will override any sense of renaissance idealism, and people will return to how God made them, incredibly tribal and defensive of their posterity over anything else. Money and ideas will be dead, but faith, blood, and soil will live and rule.
 
MusicForThePiano said:
Multipolarity in the New East / BRICS context is a continuation of Soviet unionization. A collectivizing ideology where each region will supposedly fulfill its own needs and be in charge of its own resources and have its own currency. Speculation is not absent from this as their entire idea of multipolarity hinges upon economic realities and not natural habitats and manifest destiny.

True essential multipolarity (spheres of influence) is the absence of globalism in all its forms, because each culture / ethnicity / nationality / race can only express themselves if they are unburdened by outsiders and allowed to flourish in their own unique environment.

This means the complete and utter rejection of capitalism, communism, and any other dialectic that emerge out of the enlightenment and age of "liberty". I would say that we can look at each "ism," like colonialism and imperialism, as functional from the White Christian imperative, but easily corrupted and backfired upon by jewish interlopers who live and breed through speculative interests, without which they would merely be beggars in a shtetl.

So none of these countries have done anything to create real multipolarity. Russia would not be in a desire to mix itself into oblivion and prop up African mud republics, China would not be an ever-consuming state and practice communist population methods of cramming people into squalor and having empty cities and regions at the same time, The United States would not be exporting its filth and waging war on its own people, the EU would not be committing collective long-term suicide, the Middle East would have made proper borders for all the stateless peoples like the Kurds and the Assyrians instead of having constant semitic bloodletting, and South America would be doing something to undo the last few centuries of ignorance by attempting to allow Catholicism to coexist with cannibal heathens.

The only initiative to ever let each race have their own lands and express their own was the Tripartite alliance of Germany, Italy, and Japan. The Europeans wanted to assist the Japanese in removing all White influences from the Pacific, they helped the Arabs with becoming self-sufficient on their own (removing the French from Syria/Lebanon), the Asiatics with becoming free of the Soviets and the gulags, the Africans to be left alone and not be forced into the 20th century, and the jews to be isolated where they could not harm anyone but continue to live themselves. Until another collective force is put together to attempt this justification of biological boundaries, we will see nothing but haphazard clownery at the hands of the descendants of the WW2 victors bungling their fabled utopian plans into daily nightmares of abhorred violence and exponentiating racial hatred.

Had the resistant agenda of the third position political expression kept going, whatever tragedies that would have occurred along the way would have been a drop in the bucket compared to what we've seen since at the hands of the "good guys," and the outcome would have been a far superior world of peace and growth and innovation in line with nature and more abiding by the Will of the Almighty.

The whole thing, west and east, needs to be reset with the destruction of the financial hydra as the foremost concern, then ideologically cleansed, then the natural segregationist tendencies will override any sense of renaissance idealism, and people will return to how God made them, incredibly tribal and defensive of their posterity over anything else. Money and ideas will be dead, but faith, blood, and soil will live and rule.
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Unfortunately we can not leave this Earth and there will always be conflict. Sometimes you just gotta do the best with what you have.

I'm not sure why you equate the Bolshevik revolution to the current Russia situation.

I see the whole BRICS thing as a response to the globalisation order as unification doesn't automatically mean everything that Davos stands for.
 
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Sandalwood Peak said:
The war is finished. It’s obvious as day. The war was a miscalculation on Russia’s part. I don’t know and no one else does what happened behind the scenes. You won’t be told this but that’s what it is. A big mysterious mistake.

Seems we’re back to square one in rhetoric. NATO encroachment. It’s so retarded I don’t even want to discuss NATO.

It’s amazing the slop we’re fed. The slop from the government, and the slop from the hysterical retarded populace coming up with convoluted theories about Russians being commie animals destroying the proud democratic Ukrainian whites for fun, or Russians ushering in a new golden age through 5D Christian geopolitics.

Let’s look at the facts.

  • Russia invades Ukraine.
  • The war is half-assed. Oil keeps flowing to Europe. Russia withdraws troops from Kiev. Says mobilization is not necessary until it’s forced to mobilize 300k after strategic retreats. Let’s domestic mercenaries “prove themselves”. Absolute clown show.
  • Negotiations with Ukraine people like Boris Johnson can magically derail. Our politicians are useless in tackling domestic grooming gangs, yet super competent in how peace negotiations go.
  • Europe takes a unified stance in support of Ukraine. Somehow there’s a huge shortage of weapons of war but the war continues to this day. Europe refuses to let Russia “win” for whatever reason, though doesn’t do enough, but yet somehow does the bare minimum. Fascinating.
  • Russia says they will do business with those who are willing. Putin literally implies white people, who he calls the golden billion, have some unfair hegemony over world resources and there needs to be multipolarity. I actually agree with the need for multipolarity.
  • All the populist leaders are extremely alarmed by the Ukraine War. Everyone seems to hate it. Hungary hates it. China hates it. Turkey hates it. Everyone is just so incredibly concerned about the human cost. Somehow no one can end the war. The only way this war can be ended is by America withdrawing support. Yet people say America has lost its power somehow.
  • Russia, who’s not a gas station, is forced to sell and smuggle its oil at a discount. This oil gets resold back to the west. The most incredible thing here is all the stories about Russia being bullied by India and China into giving even better deals. Nice free market we got. This is also considering it was already dirt cheap when it was being sold directly to Europe. Russia is so desperate that even the Saudis have been getting upset recently.
  • To this day I have no idea what any of these countries have done to create real multipolarity. Obviously they rearranged their financial assets to some degree, perhaps some supply chains were reviewed, etc. Like stockpiling beans to prepare for the recession.
  • To add insult to injury for me as a white man we have these “people” from these countries, India in particular, spouting how white politicians don’t “respect the brown man and constantly tell him what to do”. My race is not giving you commands, Abdul and Harjeet, you two faced POS. My race doesn’t have any representation and you know it.
  • After a whole bunch of time wasting everyone is rejoiced Trump is elected and will somehow negotiate peace. People are and should be confused on how. No one has any idea why any of this is happening. No one has any idea why no one is doing what they should be doing. It’s an absolute joke.

Peace is going to happen if you read between the lines. The only people that want the war are the Jews it seems. No one, including Russia, wants it. Everyone, in typical fashion, is absolutely powerless to do anything about it.
Now tell me we don’t live in total Jew Order.
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It's not hard to figure out. Talmuds control America through the Demonrat party, and they engage in war with Russia. Now that the Talmuds have lost a lot of power, the small amount of Americans who gain power under Trump will try to negotiate peace, however temporary.
 
I don't expect any major changes.
There won't be a ceasefire, nor a capitulation. Not anytime soon anyway.
Money and weapons will continue to flow. Trump might not authorize any new packages, but he will honor the previous commitments.
Sanctions won't be lifted. Actually Trump might levy new sanctions to weed out Russia from the global oil and gas markets.
 
TruckDriver9 said:
I don't expect any major changes.
There won't be a ceasefire, nor a capitulation. Not anytime soon anyway.
Money and weapons will continue to flow. Trump might not authorize any new packages, but he will honor the previous commitments.
Sanctions won't be lifted. Actually Trump might levy new sanctions to weed out Russia from the global oil and gas markets.
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What reasons make you predict this ?
 
Caduceus said:
What reasons make you predict this ?
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- Trump's offer seems to be unacceptable for both sides. And we can already see, with yesterday's drone attack against Moscow, that Zelensky is trying to provoke Russia before any negotiations even happen.
- Any attempts to cut the existing commitments, might end with impeachment - just like in the first term.
- Trump isn't the kind of guy who believes in fair play. He will use every tool, including new sanctions, to take out the competition and dominate enegy markets.
 
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TruckDriver9 said:
- Trump's offer seems to be unacceptable for both sides. And we can already see, with yesterday's drone attack against Moscow, that Zelensky is trying to provoke Russia before any negotiations even happen.
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It doesn't matter what Zelensky thinks. He's just a puppet and has no real power.

TruckDriver9 said:
- Any attempts to cut the existing commitments, might end with impeachment - just like in the first term.
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This is definitely a legit concern. Trump isn't the problem, Congress is the problem.
 
Samseau said:
It doesn't matter what Zelensky thinks. He's just a puppet and has no real power.



This is definitely a legit concern. Trump isn't the problem, Congress is the problem.
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Trump needs to launch investigations on every member of congress to find out how they got rich in office, then blackmail or prosecute all of them, Repugs and Dems both, to force them to do what he wants. He needs to burn the current uniparty to the ground.

Use his own funds to hire the investigators, find the dirt that all of them are hiding, and then blow them out.
 
TruckDriver9 said:
But he has a box of matches. And it's not a coincidance, that they launched a drone swarm against Moscow on the same day when Trump had a phone call with Putin and, reportedly, asked him not to escalate.
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The phone of Trump with Putin has been debunked by the Kremlin.
They haven't spoken yet.
However Trump and Putin may be starting false rumours trolling Zelensky to see how he reacts.
 
The big tell will be Trump's national security pics: State, DOD, National Security Advisor, DNI. So far, Trump's peace proposal is vapid dribble so he can tell the neocons he tried it their way, but no deal, not even close. A guy has to start somewhere.

As for us all being on the jew-train to death, Putin's 5D plan for white Christendom, whatever - this thing will be settled on the battlefield. If Trump wants to waste XXX Billion bucks, alienate his base, and still lose - his call. US people aren't going there even for Trump. He'll just have to figure that out - easy way or hard way. Ukrainian people have a harder dilemma. Russians too, just not so acute as Ukraine.

It is in everyone's interest to negotiate this thing away, except the "greater Israel" project types. If 4d chess nonsense plays himself into a corner, he'll have earned the scorn that will come.
 
TruckDriver9 said:
- Trump's offer seems to be unacceptable for both sides.
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As already stated, what the Zelensky regime thinks is irrelevant because they only stay afloat thanks to our dollar. They'll accept whatever we give them in the end.

Trump's offer is low-balling Putin. This is a common negotiation tactic. Say something quite unreasonable, then after some discussion sweeten the deal a little for the other side. It makes any concessions you give seem considerable and more likely to be accepted in comparison to the original offer. Like if you pass a guy selling hot dogs near the stadium for $15 you'll say "no way!", but if you pass another vendor selling them for $10 you might suddenly find that acceptable, thinking you scored a deal, even if it's way above what you'd normally pay.

Of course, Putin knows what Trump is trying to do. But this lays everyone's cards on the table. How much one will have to give up ultimately depends on the psychological strength of his opponents and the pressures on them. And I don't think either side should be underestimated here.
 
analyst_green said:
As already stated, what the Zelensky regime thinks is irrelevant because they only stay afloat thanks to our dollar. They'll accept whatever we give them in the end.

Trump's offer is low-balling Putin. This is a common negotiation tactic. Say something quite unreasonable, then after some discussion sweeten the deal a little for the other side. It makes any concessions you give seem considerable and more likely to be accepted in comparison to the original offer. Like if you pass a guy selling hot dogs near the stadium for $15 you'll say "no way!", but if you pass another vendor selling them for $10 you might suddenly find that acceptable, thinking you scored a deal, even if it's way above what you'd normally pay.

Of course, Putin knows what Trump is trying to do. But this lays everyone's cards on the table. How much one will have to give up ultimately depends on the psychological strength of his opponents and the pressures on them. And I don't think either side should be underestimated here.
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I'm just sceptical.
With so much money involved, the main beneficiaries: (((ukrainian))) oligarchs, as well as US congressmen who are getting kick-backs from defense contractors; have more than enough reason to sabotage the peace process.
 
TruckDriver9 said:
I'm just sceptical.
With so much money involved, the main beneficiaries: (((ukrainian))) oligarchs, as well as US congressmen who are getting kick-backs from defense contractors; have more than enough reason to sabotage the peace process.
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The real question is whether or not Trump is a man of his word. If he is, no amount of Jewish trickery will stop him from cutting a deal.
 
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