Lounge of The Russian-Ukrainian War

Pointy Elbows said:
It got to the point that Grant temporarily blocked them entering his military district:

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^Some good reading in that one. No wonder they denigrate Grant so much. He had their number.

Just another parallel between the US Civil War and what's happening in Ukraine today.
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It's interesting how throughout millennia of history, and no matter where in the world, the exact same reasons have been given for such "anti-semitic" expulsions.
 
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forabettertomorrow said:
My friends last time racist here are angry because I give you pictures of African brothers on Frontline with us.

Brothers they also become orthodox that is why priest is standing next. entire world unite against neonazi globalist west

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From what I've seen and heard many Slavs feel a stronger connection to Africans than to western Europeans, mainly cause both openly reject LGBT stuff, value gender roles etc.

In addition, South Africa obviously works with Russia as part of BRICS. No western European country supports Russia.

What obviously helps is that Russia essentially has no refugees. The Africans living there are usually Christians who came there to study or work, picked up the language, live peacefully etc. If that were the case in the West, none of the migrant threads on this forum would even exist.
 
Christos_NIKA said:
If this is true, the war will be over by next Thursday at 4:17PM, Moscow time. The NORKs don't mess around and they won't tolerate any LGBT pansy crap or hurt feewingz.
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I think it's clear now that Russia has been using Ukraine to train and harden it's troops and reserves. Keep the war going and they can rotate many units in and out to get them battle-hardened. Now the NKs want some of that too.
It's what the west did for 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
Assuming these North Korean troops will deploy to ukraine in a combat role - and right now we don't know if it's not just a joint training excercise, or if they're not support troops - their presence will be negligible, 12k is less than half of what Russia is recruiting every month. This is not to say that it will be pointless: even if their number won't have any impact on the balance of force, they will see high intensity combat for the first time since the end of the Korean war, and gain real life experience. I think that Russia should open the SMO zone not only to North Koreans, but to other countries (like Iran) as well. After all, western military personnel was on the ground in ukraine from the very first day of conflict, and lessons they've learned will be used to train western armed forces for the future. No reason why Russia's partners shouldn't do the same.
 
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TruckDriver9 said:
Assuming these North Korean troops will deploy to ukraine in a combat role - and right now we don't know if it's not just a joint training excercise, or if they're not support troops - their presence will be negligible, 12k is less than half of what Russia is recruiting every month. This is not to say that it will be pointless: even if their number won't have any impact on the balance of force, they will see high intensity combat for the first time since the end of the Korean war, and gain real life experience. I think that Russia should open the SMO zone not only to North Koreans, but to other countries (like Iran) as well. After all, western military personnel was on the ground in ukraine from the very first day of conflict, and lessons they've learned will be used to train western armed forces for the future. No reason why Russia's partners shouldn't do the same.
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I'm sure Putin is looking for other countries to offer military equipment and on the ground troops in the huge BRICS meeting going on in Kazan Russia at the moment. Iran, Saudi Arabia, India, and China have all sent their highest leaders to this meeting.
 
Myrzik3 said:
calling it a loan doesn’t mean it isn’t forgivable. They call it a loan and not a gift to allow terms to be set for how the money should be used.
Usually these funds will go right back into nato approved defense contractors.
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If the USA didn't "forgive" its loans to one of its closest allies (the UK) for a whole 60 years after world war 2, they sure as hell aren't going to forgive it to Ukraine. I agree with your second point though.
 
Caduceus said:
If the USA didn't "forgive" its loans to one of its closest allies (the UK) for a whole 60 years after world war 2, they sure as hell aren't going to forgive it to Ukraine. I agree with your second point though.
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Due to diversity turning the entire west into the third world, I don't know if there will be a Ukraine in 50 years to pay it back. I don't even know if there will be a USA to pay it back to.

I believe this was a "loan" so that stipulations, such as not attacking deep into Russia and not attacking other Russia allies was included in the terms. There is no real intention of it ever being paid back.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
I don't even know if there will be a USA to pay it back to.
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TruckDriver9 said:
Assuming these North Korean troops will deploy to ukraine in a combat role - and right now we don't know if it's not just a joint training excercise, or if they're not support troops - their presence will be negligible, 12k is less than half of what Russia is recruiting every month. This is not to say that it will be pointless: even if their number won't have any impact on the balance of force, they will see high intensity combat for the first time since the end of the Korean war, and gain real life experience. I think that Russia should open the SMO zone not only to North Koreans, but to other countries (like Iran) as well. After all, western military personnel was on the ground in ukraine from the very first day of conflict, and lessons they've learned will be used to train western armed forces for the future. No reason why Russia's partners shouldn't do the same.
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Doing this overtly might create issues in terms of sanctions globally against Brazil, South Africa and other BRICS or some of the irrelevant partners, like Serbia, should they choose to participate.

North Korea has nothing to worry about in that regard. That said, I could see this already happening covertly with soldiers of the respective nations simply wearing Russian uniforms. Who's to say the Asian looking Russian soldiers who are plausibily from East Russia aren't just Chinese soldiers or the blacks helping out aren't South Africans looking to gain experience in a real but still somewhat safe environment.
 
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