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Ukraine is a warm up for Russia. Their real target is the USA, and that we are spending 3 to 1 against Russia means Russia is coming out ahead on this conflict. Russia will never let the Ukraine situation end in it's current state, too advantageous for them.

Once the USA goes broke then cleaning up Ukraine will just be a mere formality.
 
Samseau said:
Ukraine is a warm up for Russia. Their real target is the USA, and that we are spending 3 to 1 against Russia means Russia is coming out ahead on this conflict. Russia will never let the Ukraine situation end in it's current state, too advantageous for them.

Once the USA goes broke then cleaning up Ukraine will just be a mere formality.
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I would have thought the opposite is true. Does Russia not meet the definition of an emerging threat to US hegemony, or whatever the stated euphemism is in the Worowitz Doctrine?

The US is trying to kill as many Russians as they can and weaken morale by making it their Vietnam.
 
David Sacks and Elon Musk take aim at the proposed new bill to provide another 60 billion dollars to Ukraine.




The 60 billion for Ukraine could well be derailed as Ukraine-skeptic Mike Johnson is elected Speaker of the House of Representatives.

 
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From Kim Dotcom:

BREAKING: Maidan massacre trial finds that former Ukrainian President Yanukovych didn’t order snipers to shoot protesters. The US coup d'état in Ukraine was made possible by CIA funded Ukrainian Nazis who killed their own people and blamed Yanukovych. The US Govt wrecked Ukraine.

The pertinent Ukrainian government report is embedded in the quoted tweet. It can be found at this link:


Any Ukrainian readers that can confirm this report?

The Maidan Massacre is critical to UA justification for anti-Russian sentiment. Many of us have suspected there were anti-Russian elements that effected the massacre as a false flag. It had the intended effect - galvanizing anti-Russian sentiment in Ukraine. These are the seeds of the war. Ukrainian uber-patriots claim that Yanukovych's flight to Russia, post massacre, was evidence that the massacre was affected by Russia. If this report is correct, Yanukovych was simply fleeing for his life from ukro-nationalists who sought to separate themselves from Russia.

The people of Ukraine, if this is true, may well turn with a visceral hatred towards the West, as we have incited them to kill their cousins.
 
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Arestovich is once again publicly criticizing the Ukrainian leadership, whilst living there. He clearly has protection from upon high, and could well be the Cabal's preferred choice for replacing Zelensky.
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I am not saying this is the case, but Arestovich may well be being tolerated (or deliberately cultivated) because the idea is to control the narrative around Ukraine’s losses like the demolition of a building.

The Baghdad Bob/Comical Ali approach by Kiev could only last for so long and Arestovich gives the appearance at least of vociferous criticism. Ironically, it is the West accusing the Kremlin of having puppet opposition parties, despite the fact that this is the modus operandi for Western governments and their proxies.

We saw the same methodical “demolition” of the Covid narrative. Having boiled normies “slowly” but constantly with all the restrictions, the temperature was then progressively lowered as the narrative was peeled back and effectively admitted for what it was, by the same people who concocted/ran cover for it in the first place.
 
dgbrown said:
I am not saying this is the case, but Arestovich may well be being tolerated (or deliberately cultivated) because the idea is to control the narrative around Ukraine’s losses like the demolition of a building.

The Baghdad Bob/Comical Ali approach by Kiev could only last for so long and Arestovich gives the appearance at least of vociferous criticism. Ironically, it is the West accusing the Kremlin of having puppet opposition parties, despite the fact that this is the modus operandi for Western governments and their proxies.

We saw the same methodical “demolition” of the Covid narrative. Having boiled normies “slowly” but constantly with all the restrictions, the temperature was then progressively lowered as the narrative was peeled back and effectively admitted for what it was, by the same people who concocted/ran cover for it in the first place.
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I think that Zelensky may be replaced in the coming months. There are presidential elections scheduled for March 31, which he's reluctant to hold. And the recent public voices of dissent - critique of military strategy, corruption allegations, families asking for their loved ones whereabouts, etc. - could be part of a campaign to pressure him to step down.
 
I don’t pretend to have a totally accurate finger on the pulse regarding the views and actions of the ~10-15 million Ukrainians living out of Ukraine at the moment, but I’m not hearing any stories about the ones I know engaging in heavy wage/salary/welfare payment sacrifice to fund the Ukrainian war effort and “do their bit”.

Obviously I’m singling out Millennial and Gen Z Ukrainian women here.

These women do exaggerate the “opulence” of their lifestyles, but they are spending a lot more money with Ryanair and accommodation providers for their weekend getaways than befits #IStandwithUkraine.
 
Ember said:
60 billion for Ukraine could well be derailed as Ukraine-skeptic Mike Johnson is elected Speaker of the House of Representatives.
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Wait a second, is this new speaker actually decent? I just assumed he'd be RINO scum like the last one.
 
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