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Lent 2024

Be aware, this follows the western Gregorian/New Calendar, and not Julian/Old Calendar. While all the Eastern Orthodox jurisdictions align for the Lenten Fast, the rest of them are different. The Russians, Georgians, Mt. Athos, and others follow the Old Calendar, while the Greeks (depending on the bishop, I believe), as well as the Romanians follow the New Calendar. Just so there is no confusion. Verify the dates with your parish priest.
 
Very solid and informative interview with Fr. John Whiteford about all things Lent. He covers fasting, services, prayer, almsgiving, and includes a lot of practical advice for laypeople. The only question I wish had been asked was about shellfish during Lent. Fr. John definitely implies that veganism is the preferred, and maybe required, approach, but he never directly addressed the question of shellfish.

 
Very solid and informative interview with Fr. John Whiteford about all things Lent. He covers fasting, services, prayer, almsgiving, and includes a lot of practical advice for laypeople. The only question I wish had been asked was about shellfish during Lent. Fr. John definitely implies that veganism is the preferred, and maybe required, approach, but he never directly addressed the question of shellfish.


Last lent I did shellfish and squid / octopus here and there but not too often. Most meals were vegan and I’d use avocado and coconut oil.
 
I've got bags of rice and beans lined up and ready to go. I'm trying to recite the Jesus Prayer on an hourly basis, at minimum. I've given up my best guilty pleasure, which is weed, and God willing I will be able to quit it for good after this Lent.

I still have my protein shakes and bars, I don't want to hurt myself after workouts from lack of protein. I believe I picked up some that are lent safe, but I'm not an expert and could have screwed it up a bit, but I will look for more ways to improve as the season continues.
 
I honestly have no idea what to eat for breakfast if I can't have eggs, dairy or meat. All I can think of is bread/toast. Any suggestions for a breakfast?

Other than this one:
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What do you guys eat on the strict fast days (bread, fruits, vegetables)?
  • Peanut butter
  • Hummus (it is recommended to prepare it yourself)
  • Oatmeal (with dates, bananas and nuts)
  • Potatoes (sweet and regular)
  • Beans (red, black, white)
  • Mushrooms
  • Rice, pasta, olives
  • Various fruits and vegetables, stewed and raw
  • Squid and "seafood" (when cooking oil is allowed)
  • Coffee : grin :
If I cook, I try to prepare food simply, except on weekends. The point is to satisfy the needs, not to indulge in food.
 
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I still have my protein shakes and bars, I don't want to hurt myself after workouts from lack of protein. I believe I picked up some that are lent safe, but I'm not an expert and could have screwed it up a bit, but I will look for more ways to improve as the season continues.
Spirulina has more proteins than meat. I'm not vegan.
 
Maybe one of you guys can answer this? Tried to ask a priest but didn’t get to it at last nights pre-sanctified.

Why olive oil specifically? We have “approved oils” at our coffee hour and even had some “buttered bread” at a Lenten pitch in once. What’s so special about olive oil? Why am I allowed to cook with coconut and avocado oil?

Why is hard liquor and wine bad news bears? Meanwhile beer is ok as long as you aren’t pounding it and partying. Can someone explain the reasoning? Shouldn’t oil mean oil and wine mean all alcohol?
 
Maybe one of you guys can answer this? Tried to ask a priest but didn’t get to it at last nights pre-sanctified.

Why olive oil specifically? We have “approved oils” at our coffee hour and even had some “buttered bread” at a Lenten pitch in once. What’s so special about olive oil? Why am I allowed to cook with coconut and avocado oil?

Why is hard liquor and wine bad news bears? Meanwhile beer is ok as long as you aren’t pounding it and partying. Can someone explain the reasoning? Shouldn’t oil mean oil and wine mean all alcohol?
In antiquity, especially in the Mediterranean, olive oil was THE default cooking oil. It was used everywhere. By olive oil was meant standard cooking oil, and not, for example, some suplementary, medicinal or fancy oils etc.

Shouldn’t oil mean oil and wine mean all alcohol?
Yes, oil means all cooking oils and wine means all alcohol. There is no distinction.

Tried to ask a priest but didn’t get to it
You should, he'll tell you the same thing. Except if he is Elpidophoros or a Fordhamite.

It's the same story as some Catholic monks declared beavers to be aquatic animals so they could eat them as fish during Lent:
"They had discovered an animal that lived in water, had webbed feet and tasted like fish," Wong wrote. "With Lent approaching, they asked the Vatican to grant the animal the status of fish, so they might eat it during the upcoming days of meat-free fasting.
So in the 17th century, the Bishop of Quebec approached his superiors in the Church and asked whether his flock would be permitted to eat beaver meat on Fridays during Lent, despite the fact that meat-eating was forbidden. Since the semi-aquatic rodent was a skilled swimmer, the Church declared that the beaver was a fish. Being a fish, beaver barbeques were permitted throughout Lent. Problem solved!"

And rodents...
"The Church, by the way, also classified another semi-aquatic rodent, the capybara, as a fish for dietary purposes. The critter, the largest rodent in the world, is commonly eaten during Lent in Venezuela. "It's delicious," one restaurant owner told the New York Sun in 2005. "I know it's a rat, but it tastes really good."

And armadillos, tapirs & manatees:
"Prussian naturalist Alexander von Humboldt wrote on capybara meat during his visit to Venezuela in the early 1800s: “The missionary monks do not hesitate to eat these hams during Lent. According to their zoological classification they place the armadillo, the thick-nosed tapir, and the manatee, near the tortoises; the first, because it is covered with a hard armour like a sort of shell; and the others because they are amphibious.”

And alligators...
"Bishop Gregory M. Aymond of New Orleans drew headlines for a letter confirming that “the alligator is considered in the fish family” and thus suitable for consumption during Lent. “Salt and freshwater species of fish, amphibians, reptiles, (cold-blooded animals) and shellfish are permitted,” says the website of U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops."

And muskrat...
"A 2002 document from the Archdiocese of Detroit confirmed that “there is a long-standing permission to permit the consumption of muskrat on days of abstinence, including Fridays of Lent.” Bishop Kenneth Povish of Lansing described the practice as “immemorial custom” and said that “anyone who could eat muskrat was doing penance worthy of the greatest saints.”

And some birds...
"A monastery in Northern France in the late 1600s found a way around the meatless Friday rule by eating puffin, a seagoing bird known for its stature in the publishing world. The church considered it kosher because “its natural habitat was as much terrestrial as aquatic,” and therefore they should be allowed to classify it as a fish."
https://thefisheriesblog.com/2017/03/01/beavers-are-fish-during-lent/

Of course, those are Cats. They practically don't fast anymore.

So what is the moral of the story? Those who look for excuses will find them, but excuses usually don't lead in the right direction.
And so, lo and behold, at first the beaver was declared a fish, then also the crocodile, and finally the male was declared a female, 54 genders were introduced and the pope blessed homosexual "marriages".
 
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