Is there more to nuclear bombs than we know?

[paternos]

No I'm relating real life experience since I've worked on them. I'm discussing the physics and engineering behind said weapon not wether some video is fake and gay. Posting a bunch of videos doesn't really debunk anything since iv yet to see any discussion on if a nuclear weapon can exist or not. In a technical physics sort of sense, not a if I can't touch and lick it must be fake sense. This thread seems to serve about as much use as flat earth, just a distraction from real conversation.

Can you tell us something of your real life experience working on them?

And how we can reproduce some of your findings? Science must be reproducable right? The science says that 1 gram of plutonium explodes at 19.2 tons of TNT.

I'd love to go see a 1 microgram explosion of plutionium having the power of 19kg of TNT and I'm willing to take the radiation risk.

Where can I go see that?

 

[Cooper]

^ South Side Chicago.

 

[Gazeebo]

No I'm relating real life experience since I've worked on them. I'm discussing the physics and engineering behind said weapon not wether some video is fake and gay. Posting a bunch of videos doesn't really debunk anything since iv yet to see any discussion on if a nuclear weapon can exist or not. In a technical physics sort of sense, not a if I can't touch and lick it must be fake sense. This thread seems to serve about as much use as flat earth, just a distraction from real conversation.

Great news Abraham. Please enlighten us on your escapades of working on nuclear armaments. Please show us factual evidence of nuclear weapons. Thank you.

 

[scary_robot_music]

Can you proof me it's real? Do we have physical proof today of these mega-tsar-bombas?

I have a simple concept of reality; and that means that I need to be able to see it, feel it, and that it needs to make logical sense.

Like on the flat earth topic, we can all see the sun go down and see it go down later 1000km to the east. And we can measure distances proving a globe earth. You can test this yourself.

We have none of that for nuclear bombs. I need to purely believe TV and teachers and Oppenheimer, I don't believe them.
I concluded nuclear bombs are a secular faith.

A faith that we have storages all over the world with 1000s of bombs that when they blow up can destroy full cities.
I just don't believe it. And would bet my life on it, if I was asked to choose a side.

I don't think we have this power as humans, just as that I don't believe we went to the moon.

This will be an endless debate:
- A majority says in the storages are bombs that are so powerful San Francisco will fall in the sea.
- A small minority says (including me), that there are no bombs with this amount of power. The things we have in storage have something in them, but not something that 1000000 times powerful than TNT

We are all looking at pixels on a screen and based on that picking a position. There is no way to verify these claims.

With all happiness I would run a bomb experiment somewhere, or open one of these "missiles" but I'm not allowed to do so.

I asked this before and I don't think anyone ever answered it.

It's my understanding that people who think nukes are fake believe Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by incendiary weapons (such as napalm and similar weapons). This in itself is plausible given things like Dresden and the Tokyo firebombings. The major hole in the theory to me though is that it took hundreds of planes to destroy Dresden and large parts of Tokyo with incendiaries, whereas with Hiroshima it was supposedly just the Enola Gay and, I think, two other planes escorting it. Are there any supposed reports from survivors of the Hiroshima bombing of hundreds of planes like what firebombed Tokyo? If there's nothing but accounts of a handful of planes, it strongly suggests something like the normie idea of a nuclear weapon.

 

[abraham]

Can you tell us something of your real life experience working on them?

And how we can reproduce some of your findings? Science must be reproducable right? The science says that 1 gram of plutonium explodes at 19.2 tons of TNT.

I'd love to go see a 1 microgram explosion of plutionium having the power of 19kg of TNT and I'm willing to take the radiation risk.

Where can I go see that?

I'm sure you realize how silly that sounds. You can't exactly procure either. You need explosives and nuclear material to initiate the reaction, but I will be impressed if you manage to get your hands on some. Don't forget you'll need enough for critical mass and geometry counts.

So the take away I'm getting is anything you can't actually see or feel is fake. Nuclear reactors are fake, atoms are fake, radiation outside the visible spectrum is fake. You would basically need to build your own reactor to believe nuclear energy exists.

You can get said experience though. Join the Air Force or Navy in the EOD or Ammo handling groups and get assigned to a nuclear command. Or become an engineer or physicist and go work at Scandia labs. Plenty of opportunity for real life experience which is more practical than obtaining TNT or plutonium.

 

[paternos]

I'm sure you realize how silly that sounds.

No, i'd love to know your experience.

You can't exactly procure either. You need explosives and nuclear material to initiate the reaction, but I will be impressed if you manage to get your hands on some.

I think I might get the uranium in Kazachstan, it's that yellowish metal I believe. So we mix this with TNT and then we get to this 1.000.000 times the weight explosion of TNT?

Don't forget you'll need enough for critical mass and geometry counts.

What is that critical mass? And what are geometry counts?

So the take away I'm getting is anything you can't actually see or feel is fake.

I mean it I'd love to get convinced. It would improve my hopes in our leaders, not feeling I'm dealing with a bunch of thieves, propagandists and scammers.

Nuclear reactors are fake

I don't know really how that works, but France has a lot of these and has energy, so something good it going on there it seems. W

atoms are fake

Atoms are just modeled reality, nobody has ever photographed an atom, but I liked chemistry class. And thinking and structuring in molecules & atoms seems to be a great predictive model for what happens.

radiation outside the visible spectrum is fake.

No there are many radio waves, like sound, or FM radio, or wifi.

You would basically need to build your own reactor to believe nuclear energy exists.

My interest is in exploding war heads, that's what the topic is about, not the power plants.

You can get said experience though. Join the Air Force or Navy in the EOD or Ammo handling groups and get assigned to a nuclear command.

What did you see an ammo handling group? Do you see the metal rocket? Can you open it? Or is it just a metal tube somewhere that is told to have a nuclear warhead?

Or become an engineer or physicist and go work at Scandia labs.

This sandia looks really cool, building nuclear weapons, battling the killer pandemic, they are in all these cool cases.

Superdiverse.

I think I don't really fall in their category of hiring sadly enough; I think I don't fall in the race, religion, color, sex orientation, disability criteria.

And basically you can do all there, do you know guys there who build these special warheads?

This sounds like a real advanced org, this Sandia. They do about everything.

Plenty of opportunity for real life experience which is more practical than obtaining TNT or plutonium.

Maybe I need to befriend a black gay, disabled, woman at Sandia to gain some knowledge on how this works.

 

[Blade Runner]

Are there any supposed reports from survivors of the Hiroshima bombing of hundreds of planes like what firebombed Tokyo?

Yes, and they were observed over many years for all types of deterministic and stochastic effects, as I mentioned, which are mainly cancers over time. Thyroid was the biggest by far, and is why they tell you to take NaI in nuclear fallout scenarios. People in medicine who work with radiation have thyroid shields for a reason, and lead glasses as well, because we know what happens to your thyroid and eyes (cataracts) given certain doses.

I'm sure incendiary bombs cause all of those things. Oh wait, they don't. Which begs another question, how does he know TNT is "real"?

You can't exactly procure either.

He's Doc Brown, and the Libyans are after him! Of course he can. Great Scott!

 

[abraham]

No, i'd love to know your experience.

I think I might get the uranium in Kazachstan, it's that yellowish metal I believe. So we mix this with TNT and then we get to this 1.000.000 times the weight explosion of TNT?

What is that critical mass? And what are geometry counts?


I mean it I'd love to get convinced. It would improve my hopes in our leaders, not feeling I'm dealing with a bunch of thieves, propagandists and scammers.


I don't know really how that works, but France has a lot of these and has energy, so something good it going on there it seems. W

Atoms are just modeled reality, nobody has ever photographed an atom, but I liked chemistry class. And thinking and structuring in molecules & atoms seems to be a great predictive model for what happens.

No there are many radio waves, like sound, or FM radio, or wifi.

My interest is in exploding war heads, that's what the topic is about, not the power plants.

What did you see an ammo handling group? Do you see the metal rocket? Can you open it? Or is it just a metal tube somewhere that is told to have a nuclear warhead?

This sandia looks really cool, building nuclear weapons, battling the killer pandemic, they are in all these cool cases.

Superdiverse.

I think I don't really fall in their category of hiring sadly enough; I think I don't fall in the race, religion, color, sex orientation, disability criteria.

And basically you can do all there, do you know guys there who build these special warheads?

This sounds like a real advanced org, this Sandia. They do about everything.


Maybe I need to befriend a black gay, disabled, woman at Sandia to gain some knowledge on how this works.

If you want to have serious conversation I can explain but the snarky replies let's me think you don't have the mental chops to keep up. You seem to lack an even rudimentary understanding of physics and chemistry. Or maybe just trying to be the funny guy. This must a very sensitive subject for you to take so much time to attempt to refute line by line with funny guy comments. Your other posting seems higher level so I'm just going to with this material touches a nerve for some reason.

 

[paternos]

If you want to have serious conversation I can explain but the snarky replies let's me think you don't have the mental chops to keep up. You seem to lack an even rudimentary understanding of physics and chemistry. Or maybe just trying to be the funny guy. This must a very sensitive subject for you to take so much time to attempt to refute line by line with funny guy comments. Your other posting seems higher level so I'm just going to with this material touches a nerve for some reason.

Abraham, ofcourse I am joking have you seen that load of bollocks at the Sandia site. ^^^^^^
Do you believe these guys can do something so special that no-one can reproduce.

But let me be direct then.

I see it simple, we can all see the reality around us, many have played around with fireworks, we have blown stuff up.

Now some leaders claim they have a bomb which is a million times so strong than the strongest explosive on earth (TNT).

To make these kind of surreal claims you need to come up with hard proof and there is none.

They give us some formulas, some videos, some pictures, guys in white suits, Oppenheimer, and a continuing propaganda campaign. And 99% start to belief in the bomb. Just like 99% believed in the killer pandemic. And 99% believed in the moon landing. And 90% now belief there is no God.

I want to get to the core why you belief in the bomb. Is it because the formulas, the videos, the eye witness stories?

You say you have more information, and you drop ad hominems and are not giving anything. Which ofcourse makes me think you don't have anything else.

I will not believe anything if it can not be reproduced. Proven.

The following point is essential for you.

The largest factories, mining companies, power plants can be reproduced in a small tube. We can refine gold in a small tube, factories do these things on a large scales. Get aluminium from bauxite. That's chemistry, physics.

The leaders have come up with a story that all the normal laws of the world don't go here.

And people have sucked that up, these losers talk that you need temperatures as hot as the sun, talk on centrifuges that Iran doesn't have.
You talk on "critical mass" that's a bunch of nonsense Abraham. All these bigger than life stories.

We need to be they do something so special, that only some DEI people at Sandia can understand. Or you need the biggest the machines.

The rulers live on these

I'm not denying radiation.

But radiation doesn't mean a thing can explode with 1.000.000 times the power of TNT.

Leaders lied on the power of their weapons all across the history.

Imagine the effect, what if this nuclear bomb was untrue? Then what was this "cold war" all about? Why did you get all that school training to sit under your desk? Why did you keep iodine tablets at home? What were the papers filled with? What was all this Iran propaganda about, might it be that they just have puppet government there? What were all these demonstrations about?

Nuclear bombs are a foundational element of modern political relations. (I think we can agree on that)

Don't you see the parallels with covid? Or the CO2 scam? This is a modus operandi. This is how the system operates.
A fake pandemic? 1 1/2 meters distance? the mouth masks? Also claiming the science?

You should think what you think, and it's fine with me you belief in the bomb, but you have no hard proof of it as it isn't there.

So we are believers here.

You belief in the bomb. I don't.

All good.

 

[Rational1]

If you want to have serious conversation I can explain but the snarky replies let's me think you don't have the mental chops to keep up. You seem to lack an even rudimentary understanding of physics and chemistry. Or maybe just trying to be the funny guy. This must a very sensitive subject for you to take so much time to attempt to refute line by line with funny guy comments. Your other posting seems higher level so I'm just going to with this material touches a nerve for some reason.

Don’t engage or explain. Like the flatearthers and other posters on here, the no nuke crowd are trolls. I know you mean well, but it’s a waste of time and they will attempt to keep suckering you in with long word salad posts that say nothing. Just ignore them, move on, and let the thread die.

 

[Cooper]

They're not trolls, except for that one dedicated flatearther who got booted out. But they do lack a basic understanding of physics and science, and are more susceptible to psyops like nukes/dinosaurs/planet earth are fake. The kind of combination that makes it a waste of time to pursue rational discourse with them.

 

[paternos]

They're not trolls, except for that one dedicated flatearther who got booted out. But they do lack a basic understanding of physics and science, and are more susceptible to psyops like nukes/dinosaurs/planet earth are fake. The kind of combination that makes it a waste of time to pursue rational discourse with them.

How is asking for proof not rational?

 

[MusicForThePiano]

They're not trolls, except for that one dedicated flatearther who got booted out. But they do lack a basic understanding of physics and science, and are more susceptible to psyops like nukes/dinosaurs/planet earth are fake. The kind of combination that makes it a waste of time to pursue rational discourse with them.

What physics? What science™? Be specific.

I always hear these rhetorical insults thrown at people arguing against a mainstream scientific belief. I don't need to expose my own credentials but I have extensive work and research history in fields that use a lot of mathematics, mechanics, and navigation , even though I have never "been to space" nor worked with "nuclear weapons," I certainly understand the flaws of our reasonings and our systems.

So far no one else has here has looked into the quantum physics and the theories that explain why these reactions should be possible in a crude explosive device, and if someone posts something, its just abstract junk that echoes the hollow lie that is relativity. The crux of the nuclear argument is not whether a big explosion can happen or not, they definitely can, but whether they are augmented and made "world-ending" by the alleged presence of refined uranium or plutonium.

I have already submitted the best forensic proof here that the two historical events in Japan that were used on people were not atomic weapons but a clever deception by the USAAF using shadow logistics and several thousand tonnage of incendiary bombs, like what happened with Dresden.

All of the nations post-WW2 are all in the same racket of promoting a new world order upon the generations to come, and by deception they shall wage war, it is the serpentine spirit. They are all criminals in arms. Therefore it doesn't matter if one can disprove the USA's operations to be fictitious if someone then asks "what about the Russian tests?" they are all suspect. I am more than willing to go into an investigation of all footages of alleged events. Given the breadth of lies we are told on a daily basis, from our inception as thinking minds who could distinguish morality and truth in our early years, it is important to question everything.

Some of you guys are starting to become the meme "everything I don't like is a psyop" with the consistent and uneducated flinging of this excrementitious excuse at those of us who seek to question and have a debate.

For the most part, people who question nuclear weapons, relativity, globe theory and other cosmological issues, dinosaurs, and any other massive mainstream belief tend to immediately become more religious or spiritual, and less subject to fear tactics employed by those in authority. They also tend to question authority more than the normal citizen. There is no conceivable benefit to creating this type of population; in fact the opposite is true. Those in power prefer populations more subject to fear tactics and manipulation.

Every one of you crying wolf for "psyop this, psyop that" are more conditioned than those of us who question it all. This here is proof that the fundamental concepts people question are NOT pysops, because these people cannot be conditioned. Mind control does not work on people who question too much. That's where heavy-handed operative tactics come in, coupled with the cognitive dissonance of those who are afraid to have a core belief shattered, because that is the only way to shut people up who question too much when calling them infantile names doesn't stop them from continuing their research and exposing.

 

[RedLagoon]

What physics? What science™? Be specific.

I always hear these rhetorical insults thrown at people arguing against a mainstream scientific belief. I don't need to expose my own credentials but I have extensive work and research history in fields that use a lot of mathematics, mechanics, and navigation , even though I have never "been to space" nor worked with "nuclear weapons," I certainly understand the flaws of our reasonings and our systems.

So far no one else has here has looked into the quantum physics and the theories that explain why these reactions should be possible in a crude explosive device, and if someone posts something, its just abstract junk that echoes the hollow lie that is relativity. The crux of the nuclear argument is not whether a big explosion can happen or not, they definitely can, but whether they are augmented and made "world-ending" by the alleged presence of refined uranium or plutonium.

I have already submitted the best forensic proof here that the two historical events in Japan that were used on people were not atomic weapons but a clever deception by the USAAF using shadow logistics and several thousand tonnage of incendiary bombs, like what happened with Dresden.

All of the nations post-WW2 are all in the same racket of promoting a new world order upon the generations to come, and by deception they shall wage war, it is the serpentine spirit. They are all criminals in arms. Therefore it doesn't matter if one can disprove the USA's operations to be fictitious if someone then asks "what about the Russian tests?" they are all suspect. I am more than willing to go into an investigation of all footages of alleged events. Given the breadth of lies we are told on a daily basis, from our inception as thinking minds who could distinguish morality and truth in our early years, it is important to question everything.

Some of you guys are starting to become the meme "everything I don't like is a psyop" with the consistent and uneducated flinging of this excrementitious excuse at those of us who seek to question and have a debate.

For the most part, people who question nuclear weapons, relativity, globe theory and other cosmological issues, dinosaurs, and any other massive mainstream belief tend to immediately become more religious or spiritual, and less subject to fear tactics employed by those in authority. They also tend to question authority more than the normal citizen. There is no conceivable benefit to creating this type of population; in fact the opposite is true. Those in power prefer populations more subject to fear tactics and manipulation.

Every one of you crying wolf for "psyop this, psyop that" are more conditioned than those of us who question it all. This here is proof that the fundamental concepts people question are NOT pysops, because these people cannot be conditioned. Mind control does not work on people who question too much. That's where heavy-handed operative tactics come in, coupled with the cognitive dissonance of those who are afraid to have a core belief shattered, because that is the only way to shut people up who question too much when calling them infantile names doesn't stop them from continuing their research and exposing.

Why don't you explain to us not in the know what you're trying to achieve here?

The moon landing is fake, obviously, but the moon is also a "giant rock" as you say derogatory as I've used a telescope before and I've seen the craters with my own eyes and didn't see some "translucency".

You say that you have an open mind but you fall for psy ops left right and center, and yes I've also listened (some of it) to the podcasts you or someone else advised. Open mind might work against someone sometimes as they can let in certain beliefs... no?

 

[paternos]

All of the nations post-WW2 are all in the same racket of promoting a new world order upon the generations to come, and by deception they shall wage war, it is the serpentine spirit. They are all criminals in arms. Therefore it doesn't matter if one can disprove the USA's operations to be fictitious if someone then asks "what about the Russian tests?" they are all suspect. I am more than willing to go into an investigation of all footages of alleged events. Given the breadth of lies we are told on a daily basis, from our inception as thinking minds who could distinguish morality and truth in our early years, it is important to question everything.

True.

I think we live in a global order. The masonic spirit of elites working together, whatever their thoughts on God are, is in place and it's been building for 200 years (the enlightenment). The leaders of Iran are allied to the America, as is China. The Iran leadership is tightly in place for 45 years now and they lead rich hedonistic lives, their elites worldly benefit of this mutual arrangement.

People are seduced to think on the enemy "Russia" while I think the "Cold War" was a pact in reality. No war. That means that none of the elite/state propaganda can be trusted, not Russian, not Chinese, not Iranian, and I encourage all to look at their newspapers. Please do!

All spread the Corona lies 2 ears ago, all spread the climate fakery. We have one big global order.

I see many hear think that Russia is good or so. It's the same set of lies.

Some of you guys are starting to become the meme "everything I don't like is a psyop" with the consistent and uneducated flinging of this excrementitious excuse at those of us who seek to question and have a debate.

I get the same, it's tiring.

For the most part, people who question nuclear weapons, relativity, globe theory and other cosmological issues, dinosaurs, and any other massive mainstream belief tend to immediately become more religious or spiritual, and less subject to fear tactics employed by those in authority. They also tend to question authority more than the normal citizen. There is no conceivable benefit to creating this type of population; in fact the opposite is true. Those in power prefer populations more subject to fear tactics and manipulation.

Amen.

The logical conclusion of my questioning is that most people are largely kind, that people desire God, that man has almost no power (no space flight, no satellites, no moon landing, no nuclear weapons, I even doubt the missiles), that most wars are at max largely exaggerated events (most boys don't want to die for elite political purposes), that there are no evil muslim organisations craving to do suicide attacks in Moscow theaters.

I question indeed the authority more than the normal citizen. And their only power is propaganda. Is that we believe they have "nuclear" bombs, without all this power, he would just be an emperor without clothes.

Those in power prefer populations more subject to fear tactics and manipulation.
Amen.

Every one of you crying wolf for "psyop this, psyop that" are more conditioned than those of us who question it all. This here is proof that the fundamental concepts people question are NOT pysops, because these people cannot be conditioned. Mind control does not work on people who question too much. That's where heavy-handed operative tactics come in, coupled with the cognitive dissonance of those who are afraid to have a core belief shattered, because that is the only way to shut people up who question too much when calling them infantile names doesn't stop them from continuing their research and exposing.

Amen. Good post brother. Let us search for and live in Truth. Even though we differ in conclusion on quite some issues, like then importance of race, this premise I completely adhere to.

As Paul wrote:

Ephesians 4:25 - "Therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another."

And in Proverbs 12:22 - "Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight."

We all will be judged.

 

[sarmaticus]

Why don't you explain to us not in the know what you're trying to achieve here?

The moon landing is fake, obviously, but the moon is also a "giant rock" as you say derogatory as I've used a telescope before and I've seen the craters with my own eyes and didn't see some "translucency".

You say that you have an open mind but you fall for psy ops left right and center, and yes I've also listened (some of it) to the podcasts you or someone else advised. Open mind might work against someone sometimes as they can let in certain beliefs... no?

I get it's hard to defend lies left right and center and that can give you extreme fatigue mr shill but you're confusing the threads. We're on the nukes one right now.

I've done pics with P1000 on moon and indeed it looks like a celestial body with craters, but there are days in the sky where you can see stars/ luminaries through a translucid moon.
Also, moon was observed in other part of the sky while it was the eclipse a few days ago in US, play that...
Or better yet ask the buddies in the lodge, about the black sun.

I heard the jews are asking to nuke the Iran today. I believe them, let's see the mushrooms. Genuinely frightened they will shoot some nukes and destroy the entire globe and we'll disappear like dinosaurs, like a cosmic accident we are.

 

[Northumber]

Those historical videos look like pretty good evidence to me. I used to watch them quite a bit because I thought they looked really cool. They are much more convincing than some of the moon photos/videos out there. Is the claim that the old footage is fake or just that they are some big explosion that is not nuclear?

I do see how nuclear weapons are used as a fear campaign. But, conversely, having faith in Christ would make one detached from that fear. For example, what is the effective difference, for me, if I die in a nuclear blast versus if I die falling off a ladder. I die in both examples. I think the deeper core issue is in the heart of being afraid of material things that are all temporary. I should rather be fearing my judgement before God.

 

[sarmaticus]

Those historical videos look like pretty good evidence to me. I used to watch them quite a bit because I thought they looked really cool. They are much more convincing than some of the moon photos/videos out there. Is the claim that the old footage is fake or just that they are some big explosion that is not nuclear?

Have you checked the vid from my posting here? You need only a couple of minutes in to have a decent answer to your question.

 

[Cooper]

^ A complete waste of your time, 3 hours of gaslighting and contorted argumentation. It's like going to a 3 hour pitch on Florida timeshares... You have better things to do on a Sunday than get sucked into a low-IQ psyop.

 

[Northumber]

heh, it will take me some time to work my way through it. Don't worry, not on a Sunday (it's especially beautiful out there today too)