There are certainly a lot of fatties. However, I do see skinny, cute women in public. I think it is true that about 1/4 of women are good quality, but they tend to get snatched up and married at a young age.
I provided some statistics against this argument but you haven't provided any evidence to validate your 25% of women are good quality argument. Instead you just retorted back with an exceptional to the rule based on your personal experience. This is the sort of argument tactics that women typically use. If you want to claim 1/4 of women are good quality what is that based on?
In reality they are receiving DM's from bots and fillipino virtual assistants who manage their social media profiles. Busy succesfull men are paying a few hundred a month to have their dating app and social media put on auto pilot so they dont have to waste hours everyday talking to women in text or on the phone. The only women who get actual attention from these athletes and celebrities are the ones that make it to the date in person every contact before that is handled by virtual assistants. Of course the average women doesnt know that and they will still put that feather in their hat as a trophy having exchanged text messages with succesfull men.
That is true but the fact that athletes and celebrities are even willing to sleep with 7s tells you how distorted the situation is.
Yes, like scorpion said, most get scooped up soon. Interestingly, this doesn't happen in a lot of other countries where they are as traditional, but the economy is weak. The problem with the west, then, again, is if you don't meet a girl through church or some religious connection (highly regional since it still is a feminist go to college culture) or when in college (and get married, uncommon), you'll have guys working for a decade, becoming much better overall, and no one is left - and I bring this up all the time - because no one is in general trying to hook a "made man" up with a 22-25 year old. I don't blame a younger girl in the US for not necessarily wanting that, but if she doesn't she better get married to a good guy around her age and stick with him - most don't do that, though. This is the reason why the west has such a crisis. There are tons of dudes that crowd, there are actually lots of 30s into 40s men that are highly valued, but they are only thought to be for the washed up girls (30s) who also crowd the entire system of matching out, and the shrieks are left and right. I've lived this, and that's why overseas is the only option, because a 22-25 year old woman will absolutely not only date or marry and older man, she might actually be looking for him in a culture that has absolutely no issue with it. You can't even find them socially in the anglosphere anymore, even if you wanted them.
That's correct, funny too, since so few realize it.
I already rebutted this. Just because women are having children it doesn't mean they are quality women.
I'm curious how you would define a "basic criteria of quality" for a man.
Yes, Australia agrees with me in this respect, since I've said basically this is the case. We have 2-3% of women even attractive or quality, and even that is dependent highly on their age (youth). I think I also stated in the past that there are 10 fold more guys who are above average than girls. The problem is that people have egos, there are TONS of people, and crowding is tremendous in both women and men (lots of average to below average guys and really old women).
It should be interesting. I think he'll do a good job.
In the anglosphere, interestingly, these turn out to be the same thing, women are so ridiculous. The idea of "dating down" is so funny when you hear these career women and oldies talking about it; it's just another shriek and hamster fest.
Online dating apps have opened peoples eyes on how women see 80% of men below average in terms of looks. I wonder if it has always been the case, and thus controlled whether consciously or unconsciously by societies. Or is it now happening because the market is so saturated.
Perhaps more consciously than we are aware. I think of old romantic stories, like what Jane Austen wrote, where women fall in love with a single, powerful and handsome man, usually rejecting what her family is offering her, which are reasonable. I think of Madame Bovary, where the tragic Ms. Bovary falls victim to feminine romance, rejecting her good husband for a bad boy and ultimately selfishly causing her own untimely death, all the while pining for a man. Then I think of any romance where a princess gets married off to a man and she's reluctant or refuses to do it because of some made up thing, usually the would-be husband is a psychopath, and all of her elders are counseling her to go through with the marriage. I think society has long known it's that now we have real data to prove it.
Historically, men haven't faced much sexual selection pressure based on their looks. While it's certainly never been a bad thing for a man to be handsome, it was always much more important for a man to be smart, strong, physically robust/healthy, high status, resourceful, respected/well-regarded by other men, etc... Good looks were generally only selected for insofar as they correlated with these other traits. When life was much harder in the pre-industrial era, women greatly appreciated men for their skills, knowledge, labor, wealth and physical protection, none of which have anything to do with being handsome.
I would say reasonably healthy (not on anti-depressants, etc) and not overweight or obese, has sufficient assets and or income to support a family to a reasonable standard of living (the man being in the top 40% of the male population in terms of either assets or income is sufficient). That is pretty much it. Of course there are other factors that matter but they are not basic criteria.
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That is true. And now its getting to the point where due to globalization a girl who is an 8 or a 9 in any country in the world still has a lot of options as she has access to attention from wealthy men from all over the world (Instagram, dating apps, etc).
I think it may be slightly more black pill than the actual stats, but let's say it's wrong by .5% and the number of guys is actually 2% with those top qualities. It's still absurd since nearly every girl says she wants this, and there are barely 1-2% of girls who are 7s or up.
Yes, I can attest to this. I recall going to Colombia, as an example, at the middle of last decade. At that time, and I had spoken to a former rvf member who was there in 2010 or so, I could tell that it was GREAT 5 years earlier (and earlier than that of course) but it had been relatively invaded and too traveled by the world, by tourists, etc. (Medellin specifically). Fast forward to now and the country is even worse, it's hard to imagine, though there are spots here and there. It's also much more dangerous and has a much worse future in the next 5-10. The best you're going to do in most of SA is just have fun, but that's not what guys are looking for here. Argentina or Uruguay might be an exception, by the way, or possibly the south of Brazil, but that country is a mess too overall.
