Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

What I'm saying is that the U.S. and Israel are simply not going to allow Iran anything other than martyrdom or a hollow victory. Iran is not going to "win" this war and "defeat" America by any meaningful definition of those words. The stakes are too high at this point. The terms that Iran presented for ending the war are completely unacceptable to the United States. I was not joking when I said that the U.S. would literally use nukes on Iran well before they would consider acceding to those terms. The United States would sooner turn every population center in Iran into glass than agree to the peace conditions the IRGC offered. (And to be clear, I am not advocating for such an outcome, I'm just saying that this is the reality of the situation and how much is at stake).
Aligned with this assessment and this is what I've been saying repeatedly.

At some point of the Empire doesn't get its way it will wage total war.

Too far past the Rubicon for the US to accept anything other than their will on Iran.
 
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If that happens get ready for the more obvious false prophet and man of lawlessness to be revealed. The reason I don't see it happening THIS SOON is because we aren't that close to a more obvious one world religion, as of yet.
Indeed. But it should be kept in mind that the Antichrist will initially be regarded as a great peacemaker, and that those times will heavily feature "wars and rumors of wars". As far as the one-world religion goes, I have long suspected that it will be a type of new age "universal brotherhood of man" religion precipitated by an "alien" being coming down from the heavens (perhaps Antichrist himself), and who will teach that mankind was created by aliens and that all of Earth's religions are bastardizations of this "forgotten truth" (and indeed Antichrist may claim that it was actually he who was Christ, Muhammad and Buddha, or at least that they were each aliens). I don't want to derail any further with end times talk in this thread though, but would be glad to continue that discussions elsewhere.
 
We don't know what the US and Israel are going to do. Our definition of a 'hollow victory' may be a great triumph for the Iranians that see this as an existential battle against the devil incarnate.
Its irrelevant. The US is going to dictate the win on their terms in a way that is most favorable for the US regardless.
Maybe they will use nukes. But, the entire world will turn on the US and Israel. They will be the international pariahs. BRICS will accelerate in expansion at warp speed.
Doubt it. All bark, no bite.

The BRICS is only as strong as Putin is in office.

There is also the possibility that Pakistan has sold off-the-shelf nukes to Iran. They offered them a while back, and Iran allegedly refused because of the fatwa against them. But, it is quite possible that at some point the Iranians reconsidered and took them up on it. It will be the all time greatest FAFO.
And assure they get turned into glass
 
Maybe they will use nukes. But, the entire world will turn on the US and Israel. They will be the international pariahs. BRICS will accelerate in expansion at warp speed.
Maybe? Or maybe not. We're in totally uncharted territory at that point, and all we can say for sure is that what happens after that is completely unpredictable by anyone. Which is why this situation is so dangerous.
 
The only alternatives to this 'hollow' victory are total defeat, in which you are ruled over by an Israeli proxy leadership and suffer endless persecution, humiliation and subversion, like with post-war Germany.
Actually we are at the same point in history as we were during WW2. Iran is in the same position as Third Reich was. It's an ideological adversary to the ZOG power block. If Iran is defeated just like with the defeat of Germany ZOG will secure world dominance for decades. The difference is that unlike Germany Iran has an unlimited source of oil and a much more advantageous geography. We may not particularity like the IRGC just as we didn't particularly like the NSDAP but fact of the matter is that once again this kind of force is holding back the hegemony of zionists who seek to enslave the whole world. If Iran loses, we, the people, lose as well.
 
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What are the odds or Iran responding to a nuclear strike with their own nuclear response? Trump is playing with fire here, he is reacting more like an unhinged Israeli leader than a POTUS.

China and Russia would have something to say about the USA/israel nuking Iran

We would have world war 3 with nukes.

Iran would likely be given a nuke from Russia/china to nuke israel.

Then israel would nuke someone else or convince the USA to nuke someone.

Not sure how it would end

The endgame isn’t good.
 
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