This is like leftists blaming rising crime on toxic right wing masculinity. This dude is confused.
Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread
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This is like leftists blaming rising crime on toxic right wing masculinity. This dude is confused.
Having a stronger military and being able to win a war doesn’t mean necessarily that you will win.
Political will also matters. All Iran has to do is survive a war for long enough that Trump will get voted out and the next (Democrat) administration will cancel the war because it’s too unpopular.
USA lost the war against the then backwater Vietnam not because their military was weak but because they are a “democracy” and the political support was not there to keep the war going so they had to withdraw to appease voters.
The war against Iran already has less political support than any major war the USA has been involved in to date and we are only a few weeks into the conflict. Politically this war is a poison pill so if they don’t finish Iran quick they will eventually just give up and walk away because it’s too unpopular not because their military is too weak.
The Iranians as of today are a much tougher people than Americans and can withstand 10 times as much hardship before they buckle.
Normal Americans are already starting to feel the economic pressure and get uncomfortable with this whole fiasco and they aren't even in a war zone. Iranians are out casually walking around in the streets as bombs are exploding in the background and they don't even flinch.
Donny is clearly out of his element.
I would say a lot of the stuff about how Iran is operationally winning the war because they managed to ding a airplane or because they managed to land a missile hit somewhere would be wishful thinking about how Iranians are these Aryan warriors that will finally be the ones to give the Jews their comeuppance. However I do think the theory that Iran can "win" by bleeding out the US does have more legs. Joe Kent in his interview with Tucker made a point that a lot of the things that Israel either welcomes or at least tolerates (such as if Iran falls into some sort of uprising/civil war) aren't things that would be beneficial for the US and even if the US ends up running up the score card on casualties and damage vs Iran the war might end up looking a loss for the US. 10000 revolutionary guards can be killed and the Iranians can still say they won if the regime holds but if 100 marines gets killed in a missile strike in the case of a land invasion of the strait that would be considered a disaster.
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Is this a recent video or from a few weeks ago? I'm asking cause if this is recent and Bibi is dead, I would like to hear the explanation for how this video was created.
He's outdoors and while he's surrounded by people from MSM outlets (so not " unaccredited cameras" I guess) but you do see random passerbys in the back going about their days. Of you course say this is all AI and/or that everyone in the video is a Jew and therefore all in on it but then in that case it means the theory about Bibi is being dead is completely unfalsable and believers in this there are going to believe in it no matter what and can't be convinced no matter what they see. If that's the stance, even if Bibi shows up at the White House then people will just say it's another example of Trump (and I suppose any US media outlets that cover the visit) dancing to the tunes of the Jews and being in on it with the pretense of pretending Bibi is alive.
EDIT: He does mention the ballistic missiles attack on Garcia base and also how Iranian missiles seem to have longer ranges then previously assumed which is recent news.
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Is this a recent video or from a few weeks ago? I'm asking cause if this is recent and Bibi is dead, I would like to hear the explanation for how this video was created.
He's outdoors and while he's surrounded by people from MSM outlets (so not " unaccredited cameras" I guess) but you do see random passerbys in the back going about their days. Of you course say this is all AI and/or that everyone in the video is a Jew and therefore all in on it but then in that case it means the theory about Bibi is being dead is completely unfalsable and believers in this there are going to believe in it no matter what and can't be convinced no matter what they see. If that's the stance, even if Bibi shows up at the White House then people will just say it's another example of Trump (and I suppose any US media outlets that cover the visit) dancing to the tunes of the Jews and being in on it with the pretense of pretending Bibi is alive.
EDIT: He does mention the ballistic missiles attack on Garcia base and also how Iranian missiles seem to have longer ranges then previously assumed which is recent news.
As I said: jews do not deserve any benefit of the doubt. Does this convince me? Nope.
Another thing to note - this video is being posted from a Telegram channel known for being "based and redpilled" on what's REALLY going on in Iran and showing that Iran is actually winning the war on the ground. Are the Jews so powerful that they even managed even to blue pill these red pilled Telegram channels into thinking that Bibi is still alive? If so, can these channels be trusted to be post the truth about what's going on?
Iran can only "win" this war in the sense that they manage to survive with their current ruling regime still in place. But that's sort of a hollow victory if your entire country has been laid to waste in the process, and most of your military capability expended or destroyed. It's like if you get into a bar fight and wind up on the ground with a concussion, both eyes swollen shut, all your teeth knocked out, multiple broken ribs, and you declare victory because, "I'm still alive, he didn't kill me!"
That being said, the U.S. can't really "win" the war in that sense, either. This is why the whole misadventure was harebrained in the first place (and why no other U.S. administration has been stupid and/or reckless enough to pull the trigger on a war with Iran). The U.S. has no realistic victory condition. This is the nature of an asymmetric conflict. The Americans can inflict massive damage on Iran, but the Iranians can simply absorb it and keep chugging along. Nothing short of a full-scale invasion by a massive occupying force or total nuclear obliteration can truly ever defeat Iran, and obviously both of these options are highly problematic for a number of reasons.
Iran can keep the war going (and by war I mean "lobbing missiles at Israel and the GCC states while keeping the Strait of Hormuz closed") indefinitely. It's very easy for them to do that, and very difficult for the U.S. to stop them. Asymmetry. Wargames played this exact scenario out for decades, which is why it's truly incredible that we find ourselves in this scenario. This was entirely predictable.
The fact that this outcome was so predictable (and literally was predicted by all seasoned military and intelligence analysts) and yet Trump and Netanyahu chose to proceed makes me believe that the whole thing was entirely intentional. This sort of economic chaos and destruction was not an unforeseen consequence of war with Iran, but was actually one of the primary goals of it. And that goal only makes sense if you are Israel and pursuing the Greater Israel project. It seems increasingly likely to me that this war was engineered by Netanyahu, Kusher, Witcoff and Lindsay Graham, all of whom worked together to manipulate Trump and mislead him about Irans's capabilities and intentions. All four men have enough personal experience with Trump to know how to play him like a fiddle. They knew exactly what he would need to hear to get him to go along with a major attack on Iran, and they made sure that he heard it from all of them. And here we are.
That being said, the U.S. can't really "win" the war in that sense, either. This is why the whole misadventure was harebrained in the first place (and why no other U.S. administration has been stupid and/or reckless enough to pull the trigger on a war with Iran). The U.S. has no realistic victory condition. This is the nature of an asymmetric conflict. The Americans can inflict massive damage on Iran, but the Iranians can simply absorb it and keep chugging along. Nothing short of a full-scale invasion by a massive occupying force or total nuclear obliteration can truly ever defeat Iran, and obviously both of these options are highly problematic for a number of reasons.
Iran can keep the war going (and by war I mean "lobbing missiles at Israel and the GCC states while keeping the Strait of Hormuz closed") indefinitely. It's very easy for them to do that, and very difficult for the U.S. to stop them. Asymmetry. Wargames played this exact scenario out for decades, which is why it's truly incredible that we find ourselves in this scenario. This was entirely predictable.
The fact that this outcome was so predictable (and literally was predicted by all seasoned military and intelligence analysts) and yet Trump and Netanyahu chose to proceed makes me believe that the whole thing was entirely intentional. This sort of economic chaos and destruction was not an unforeseen consequence of war with Iran, but was actually one of the primary goals of it. And that goal only makes sense if you are Israel and pursuing the Greater Israel project. It seems increasingly likely to me that this war was engineered by Netanyahu, Kusher, Witcoff and Lindsay Graham, all of whom worked together to manipulate Trump and mislead him about Irans's capabilities and intentions. All four men have enough personal experience with Trump to know how to play him like a fiddle. They knew exactly what he would need to hear to get him to go along with a major attack on Iran, and they made sure that he heard it from all of them. And here we are.