Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread
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Shocking: Country at war says casualties are lower than they really are.
The only way I can see this conflict being settled peacefully is if the U.S. reaches out to Russia and China to broker a deal. We offer Russia an end to the Ukraine War, sanctions relief, return of their stolen funds, and re-entry into the global economy. We offer China removal of tariffs, a pledge to not interfere in their Belt & Road initiatives, and the lucrative opportunity to rebuild Iran. In exchange we demand an immediate end to hostilities, the signing of a fifty-year non-agression pact between Israel and Iran, the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, and a pledge from the Iranian, Russian, and Chinese governments that Iran will cease its nuclear ambitions and relocate it nuclear material to secure facilities in Russia and/or China.
This would be painted as a big loss, but in the grand scheme of things these are relatively modest concessions that the U.S. could absorb much easier than Iran turning into another endless war; the growing probability of nuclear weapons being used; the outbreak of a literal WW3, or the end of the petrodollar. All of those scenarios are totally disastrous for the U.S., and they all become increasingly likely the longer this war goes on.
Trump is behaving as if this is 1991 and we're living in a unipolar world with America as the undisputed superpower. But clearly, the unipolar moment has passed, and we must engage with reality as it is, rather than cling to fantasy or idealization of the past. This delusion that American is so powerful that it can do whatever it wants without consequences would be dangerous at any time, but when paired with the sheer hubris, ignorance, and recklessness Trump displayed in choosing to start this war, it literally risks the ruin of the country.
Ironically, by clinging to the delusion of American preeminence rather than gracefully accepting a gradual decline in her power, Trump risks accelerating that decline into something more closely resembling a free fall. We desperately need to start engaging in classical diplomacy, particularly with our peer great powers Russia and China, rather than presuming we can dictate terms to them at will. We have an opportunity with this Iran War to make lemonade out of lemons, and forge not only a lasting peace in the Middle East, but to build the framework for a multipolar twenty-first century world where the U.S., Russia and China work together to maintain global peace and prosperity while respecting each other's natural spheres of influence.
If he could broker such a deal, Trump could take a small loss in the short term with Iran to gain a much greater and longer lasting victory, one which history would judge him very favorably for, and which would, more than anything else (and certainly more than what he's doing currently) maximize American power and prosperity over the decades to come. It would be the greatest deal of Trump's life, but unfortunately it seems like he's going to ignore the possibility and stubbornly maintain his currency trajectory, in the process ruining his legacy and doing great and perhaps irreparable harm to the country he claims to love.
This would be painted as a big loss, but in the grand scheme of things these are relatively modest concessions that the U.S. could absorb much easier than Iran turning into another endless war; the growing probability of nuclear weapons being used; the outbreak of a literal WW3, or the end of the petrodollar. All of those scenarios are totally disastrous for the U.S., and they all become increasingly likely the longer this war goes on.
Trump is behaving as if this is 1991 and we're living in a unipolar world with America as the undisputed superpower. But clearly, the unipolar moment has passed, and we must engage with reality as it is, rather than cling to fantasy or idealization of the past. This delusion that American is so powerful that it can do whatever it wants without consequences would be dangerous at any time, but when paired with the sheer hubris, ignorance, and recklessness Trump displayed in choosing to start this war, it literally risks the ruin of the country.
Ironically, by clinging to the delusion of American preeminence rather than gracefully accepting a gradual decline in her power, Trump risks accelerating that decline into something more closely resembling a free fall. We desperately need to start engaging in classical diplomacy, particularly with our peer great powers Russia and China, rather than presuming we can dictate terms to them at will. We have an opportunity with this Iran War to make lemonade out of lemons, and forge not only a lasting peace in the Middle East, but to build the framework for a multipolar twenty-first century world where the U.S., Russia and China work together to maintain global peace and prosperity while respecting each other's natural spheres of influence.
If he could broker such a deal, Trump could take a small loss in the short term with Iran to gain a much greater and longer lasting victory, one which history would judge him very favorably for, and which would, more than anything else (and certainly more than what he's doing currently) maximize American power and prosperity over the decades to come. It would be the greatest deal of Trump's life, but unfortunately it seems like he's going to ignore the possibility and stubbornly maintain his currency trajectory, in the process ruining his legacy and doing great and perhaps irreparable harm to the country he claims to love.
A tsunami wave is being formed and you have a orange lunatic dufus at the helm. We are talking about a guy who accepted a 14% loan to build a casino. When all his advisors told him not to. Cause it would be impossible to repay the loan. Later filling for bankrupcy. This is the guy who holds nuclear codes.
Two maritime security incidents.
"Parimal" - Palau flagged, Emirati owned tanker was hit on the approach to the Emirati port of Khor Fakkan, east of Hormuz. Fire erupted on board and she was abandoned by her crew. 15 sailors were rescued by a nearby tanker. 1 person, the captain is missing.
Curiously, she recently crossed the SoH, sailing from Iraq, without any incidents.
"Halul 69" - Qatari flagged and owned tugboat was hit, most likely by debris from a nearby interception, off the coast of Qatar. There was no serious damage, just a broken window, and all her crew is safe.
"Parimal" - Palau flagged, Emirati owned tanker was hit on the approach to the Emirati port of Khor Fakkan, east of Hormuz. Fire erupted on board and she was abandoned by her crew. 15 sailors were rescued by a nearby tanker. 1 person, the captain is missing.
Curiously, she recently crossed the SoH, sailing from Iraq, without any incidents.
"Halul 69" - Qatari flagged and owned tugboat was hit, most likely by debris from a nearby interception, off the coast of Qatar. There was no serious damage, just a broken window, and all her crew is safe.
Joint statement from the leaders of the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Japan on the Strait of Hormuz: 19 March 2026
Joint statement from the leaders of the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Japan on the Strait of Hormuz.
We express our readiness to contribute to appropriate efforts to ensure safe passage through the Strait. We welcome the commitment of nations who are engaging in preparatory planning.
Unfortunately, it looks like this is actually The Plan. And it also appears that Trump is not running this show and that decades ago he went down to the crossroads and did a deal with the synogogue of satan in the form of his dealings with Epstein and marrying his daughter off to her apparent talmudic handler Kushner.
We're at the point where conspiracies are the only thing that make sense and where every time we use the word "Trump" or "America" we must substitute them with the word "jew."
A speculative theory is yellow Nostradamus says Trump wants this. He wants the fall of the American empire. Cause it´s antagonistic with America first. The first ever leader in history to wishfully want to end his country might. He wants america to lose. And lose americans will. Engulfing the rest of western world. Incredible. What a retarded slob. Trump would be a great city mayor. Small politics would be tailored for him. Not presidency. His to small for that. How the f did this retard reached US presidency? The level of hunger of US people for something half normal to elect this bozo twice.
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"Jared Kushner, husband to Ivanka Trump, is allegedly soliciting $5 billion in funding for his private equity firm while serving as a diplomatic advisor to his father-in-law, President Donald Trump.
Kushner has been participating in peace negotiations worldwide, with Trump appointing Kushner to the unofficial position of the administration’s “special peace envoy” in Feb. 2026.
Now, as one of the government’s negotiators in the Middle East, Kushner is working to raise money for his private equity firm, Affinity Partners, from governments across the Middle East, according to The New York Times.
The outlet reportedly spoke to five people with knowledge of the business proceedings, all of whom confirmed that Kushner has been actively meeting with investors in his quest to raise at least $5 billion for his firm.
Kushner and his team have reportedly entered into conversation with Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF) for “first look” rights, Axios said after confirming The NYT‘s reports. Led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the PIF is the country’s primary wealth fund, funded in large part by the country’s oil revenues."
www.yahoo.com
There you go.
Iran is to republicans. What Ukraine was to democrats.
Kushner has been participating in peace negotiations worldwide, with Trump appointing Kushner to the unofficial position of the administration’s “special peace envoy” in Feb. 2026.
Now, as one of the government’s negotiators in the Middle East, Kushner is working to raise money for his private equity firm, Affinity Partners, from governments across the Middle East, according to The New York Times.
The outlet reportedly spoke to five people with knowledge of the business proceedings, all of whom confirmed that Kushner has been actively meeting with investors in his quest to raise at least $5 billion for his firm.
Kushner and his team have reportedly entered into conversation with Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF) for “first look” rights, Axios said after confirming The NYT‘s reports. Led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the PIF is the country’s primary wealth fund, funded in large part by the country’s oil revenues."
Jared Kushner Reportedly Seeks $5B From Middle East Governments for His Firm While Serving as Envoy
Kushner is allegedly soliciting $5 billion in funds for his private equity firm while serving as an unofficial diplomatic advisor to his father-in-law, Trump.
There you go.
Iran is to republicans. What Ukraine was to democrats.
No matter how you slice it, it comes up jew.
Okay, so what countries still want to be strong armed into buying a jet that can now be hit? The hits keep coming for the USA.
I agree with EMJ that the US wants oil fields of Venezuela and Iran to mortgage it's debt in the coming default thus they will keep the pedal to the metal until the US either wins or hits a brick wall and dies because not securing the oil fields means no mortgage and a guaranteed end of empire.
It really is like sitting in a car with a maniac in the drivers seat and desperately trying to pry his fingers off the steering wheel before the car hits a brick wall at 200 mph. This war is not going to end with some kind of diplomatic deal. No. It's going to end when either ZOG or Iran gets splattered on an immovable object.
Now, I'm of the opinion that the latter option is still better because the system they plan to introduce if they win is not going to be better for a normal citizen compared to the scenario where US loses. Either way the people are going to get rekt but if US loses at least they won't lose their souls.
This is the way of empires. They are given a certain amount of time and if the people fail to govern them justly God brings an end. As far as I'm concerned the US empire is done, God will tear it to shreds. The American people are not going to keep their country. The only thing they can keep are their souls. This will be the separation of wheat from the chaff.
It really is like sitting in a car with a maniac in the drivers seat and desperately trying to pry his fingers off the steering wheel before the car hits a brick wall at 200 mph. This war is not going to end with some kind of diplomatic deal. No. It's going to end when either ZOG or Iran gets splattered on an immovable object.
Now, I'm of the opinion that the latter option is still better because the system they plan to introduce if they win is not going to be better for a normal citizen compared to the scenario where US loses. Either way the people are going to get rekt but if US loses at least they won't lose their souls.
This is the way of empires. They are given a certain amount of time and if the people fail to govern them justly God brings an end. As far as I'm concerned the US empire is done, God will tear it to shreds. The American people are not going to keep their country. The only thing they can keep are their souls. This will be the separation of wheat from the chaff.
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Almost all the bombings so far have been from stand-off weapons, whose stocks are rapidly diminishing. So the USAF is now getting closer to their targets and more exposed to these kinds of events, and it appears that the Iranians have some decent Russian, Chinese and domestic AA hardware.