Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

thinkreadwritecode said:
Has anyone noticed if there's been any propaganda about Islam being the religion of peace, or are we past that?
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The right-wing is desperate to blame Islam, but then they import millions of them for cheap labor. The left-wing is silent, because they are beholden to the same AIPAC organizations and they secretly support the war as well.
 
Cooper said:
Think of the Russian campaign in Ukraine, 4 years into this and after several thousand strikes, they still don't send their jets beyond the frontlines.

The Iranians are hiding their AA gear underground, they can ambush any jets flying too close, especially if they have real time satellite intel of incoming raids. It's a bit like the Ukrainians, all it takes is one S-300 inside a barn to bring down a Russian jet.
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Ukraine also actually has a functioning air force unlike Iran so I think that would also factor into why Russians don't penetrate as far and why haven't enjoyed the sort of air supremacy over Ukraine that the US and Israel has had over Iran.
 
It_Is_My_Time said:
Collapse? No one said anything about collapse. It is the first blow to the invincibility of the F-35 platform. I saw a lot of people talking about the last thing the USA needs is the F-35 to look beatable. The number of countries buying this platform could shrink. This is the first blow to its reputation. Will more be taken out or is this a lucky shot. Time remains to be seen.

But as long as China is using 140 IQ engineers, and Russia does the same, and the USA imports third world engineers, we will continue to fall behind and soon our allies will eventually look elsewhere to buy equipment. Import the third world, become the third world. And now all those satanic bastards who told me the third worlder's are more American than my family, who literally helped to build this country, get to go to war with their new pets.
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Chinese aircraft are one story - one of modest improvements on facsimilies bleeding edge concepts pioneered by American defense primes thirty years ago - but Russia? How many combat-coded 4.75-generation SU-57s are in service? Answer: too few for Russian Aerospace Forces to be scared about losing the two handfuls they've managed to scrape together to do anything but lob glide bombs and R-77s from BVR.

And how's that Sukhoi Checkmate doing?
 
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