And the wannabe prince siding with the attackers is not looked on very favorably by his constituency.
according to other posters here you can't be a man of God and apparently serve in the US military. That's not my view very obviously... But the non servicemen are free to pontificate.
Only God is good.
If being in the military is also a sin, then we shall pray for forgiveness for that sin also.
If Romans 12 gives God's blessing to the powers, if God blesses the peacemakers, surely they can be men of God indeed.
Matthew 5:9
King James Version
9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Now you're just being obtuse.Only God is good.
If being in the military is also a sin, then we shall pray for forgiveness for that sin also.
If Romans 12 gives God's blessing to the powers, if God blesses the peacemakers, surely they can be men of God indeed.
Matthew 5:9
King James Version
9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Who says anyone was fooled.Being fooled into the military at a young age can hardly be a sin now?
Now you're just being obtuse.
The US has used up 15-20% of its global stockpile of THAAD interceptors in just 11 days, defending Israel from Iranian missiles.This is reported by Military Watch Magazine.
The publication notes that with the cost of each THAAD interceptor launch estimated at $12-15 million, air defense operations using the system deployed in Israel cost approximately $810 million to $1.215 billion.
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U.S. Used Up 15-20 Percent of its Global THAAD Anti-Missile Arsenal in Just 11 Days of Mid-Intensity Combat: Cost Over $800 Million
The U.S. Army has been estimated to have consumed 15-20 of all munitions for its globally deployed arsenal of Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) long rangemilitarywatchmagazine.com
Fair enough, I shouldn't have used sarcasm, apologies. It's a bad habit of mine.This is the where we've ended up, we're talking down to soldiers for being soldiers now?
Now you're just being obtuse.
There is zero teaching that I'm aware of as a practicing Orthodox that simply being in the military is a sin.
You could argue that murder is a sin (which it is) that one needs to atone for, but simply being in the organization is not a sin.
Again, why would the Church bless our troops or have chaplains in the military if your logic held true?
Why would Orthodox have chaplains in the military?
Fair enough, I shouldn't have used sarcasm, apologies. It's a bad habit of mine.
My apologies for being rude.
Though, I'm pretty sure murder isn't usually accurate for killing in war, since murder describes unlawful killing.
I'm pretty sure killing in self defense is not a sin, and killing in war is either not a sin, or perhaps sinning unknowingly and unwillingly, with the exception of war crimes.
I don't completely agree with your characterization. There are members suggesting servicemen are guilty of egregious sin and such while proclaiming to be Orthodox themselves... which is not the experience I've had in The Church as I've enumerated many times. Go check Octopors posts.We should make a thread on English comprehension where we can digest comments and help each other derive meaning from them.
Original accusation was @Get2choppaaa was doing the "work of the devil" by participating in banker [Rothchild] wars in the desert. Member said something else but I did not comprehend. @Get2choppaaa felt he was called a bad Christian/fake Orthodox, at least that is my interpretation. It doesn't seem like anyone wast actually arguing that.
It is possible some the 5th columnist subversive userbase here, is trying to create noise and confusion, to derail threads anytime unfortunate truths come to light. In a very organized manner these NAFTA shills attack like a rabid dog anyone challenging their global superpower of freedom narrative by attacking those of us trying to educate the world on the rising tide of the Eurasian super alliance. Sponsored by the Bush-Barbara Foundation, through subliminal methods, they plant the seeds of doubt in the minds of innocent lurkers who come here to learn about Chinese advancements and Russian conquests. Praising the work of Trump, appealing to patriotism and other nonsensical behavior is their MO.
Now you're just being obtuse.
There is zero teaching that I'm aware of as a practicing Orthodox that simply being in the military is a sin.
You could argue that murder is a sin (which it is) that one needs to atone for, but simply being in the organization is not a sin.
Again, why would the Church bless our troops or have chaplains in the military if your logic held true?
Why would Orthodox have chaplains in the military?
Who says anyone was fooled.
Tons of folks go to get out of bad situations and as a way up in life when they come from poor areas.
Surely you're not denigrating that?
This appears more to be folks who have a guilt trip about not serving trying to tear down those who did because of the state of world affairs vs understanding the characteristics and values of those who do serve.
Seriously this is some of the most silly argumentation devoid of any reality I've heard in a long time.
Your comment:Re read my comment sir.
Being fooled into the military at a young age can hardly be a sin now?
Like I said, it's not about politics from my POV. From my POV it's about a spoiled princeling who calls others to fight for his throne, while living in comfort and safety halfway across the world. If, as You say, it's his sacred duty to lead his people, than what he's doing living in LA? Why isn't he leading the rebellion against the mullahs himself?
I take issue with such a disrespectful approach.
Good rundown on Israeli losses:
Thomas Keith
Israel entered the 12-day exchange convinced it could absorb costs; the ledger now shows a nation bleeding cash, talent, and confidence. Direct military outlays hit $5 B in the first week, then ballooned to $725 M every 24 hours, $593 M on offensive strikes that failed to silence Iran, $132 M on frantic mobilisation and missile intercepts that still let 400 warheads through. Iron Dome batteries alone inhaled $10 M to $200 M per day while Iranian salvos sailed past them and erased $1.47 B in civilian property, triggering 38 700 damage claims, 11 000 evacuations, and 30 condemned high-rise skeletons across Tel Aviv’s financial spine.
The Weizmann Institute, Israel’s prestige export, lies in shards, 45 labs gone and $500 M in biomedical IP incinerated, pulling decades of grant pipelines and pharma partnerships off the table overnight. Intel’s Kiryat Gat fabs froze mid-wafer, choking a supply chain that feeds 64 % of Israel’s exports and 1/5 of its GDP; the high-tech sector now runs on skeleton crews because 300 000 reservists were yanked from R&D floors and data centers to guard empty runways at Tel Nof. Commercial flights halted twice at Ben Gurion, insurers jacked premiums, and foreign airlines rerouted around a country that once sold itself as the region’s safe hub.
Capital is already in flight. More than 80 000 Israelis emigrated in 2024, the largest outflow since 1948, pushing the two-year total above 500 000 and forcing Netanyahu’s cabinet to slap a travel ban on Jewish dual nationals to stem the leak. Investor confidence cratered: venture funds paused term sheets, construction sites stand idle, and mega-projects wait on credit that no longer clears. The finance ministry, staring at a deficit set to shove public debt past 75 % of GDP, begged for an extra $857 M in defence cash while slicing $200 M from hospitals and schools.
Analysts peg Israel’s aggregate loss between $11.5 B and $17.8 B, up to 3.3 % of GDP, before counting long-tail hits from halted exports, cancelled IPOs, and sovereign-risk downgrades. Iran, still sitting on its uranium stockpile, spent a fraction of that yet forced the self-styled “Start-Up Nation” into a liquidity scramble, an insurance panic, and a brain-drain spiral. Tel Aviv promised deterrence; Tehran handed it a balance sheet in red ink and the visible stamp of strategic humiliation.
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This is the kind of damage I have alluded too in my posts above.
US taxpayers will foot the bill, but the image and psychological damage to the Israeli project is irreversible.
This is a nuclear tier cope I am afraid, pun intended. Juggling with manipulated and cherrypicked numbers for maximum alarmism and gloating is all fine and dandy until the big boys speak. The Tel Aviv stock market, Israel's main economic benchmark and motor, is booming and outperforming the SP500 by quite a margin. Economic numbers in all other sectors ranging from GDP growth, export stats and more are through the roof as well. Summary: consecutive stock market ATHs mean the markets think you're full of it.
Also worthwhile to remember that the Chinese recently signed a multi billion USD deal to expand their Port of Haifa Belt and Road tied leasedeal. If the Chinese, whose every move you religiously defend elsewhere on the board, reach this conclusion then surely there is truth to it, now try to stay coherent juggling narratives. The Changs are mercantile in nature and their business related risk assessment is informed and considerate. In short, the Chinese have trust in Israel's political stability which underpins the success of the Haifa investment. Which in turn means the 'Israel is economically collapsing' copenarrative is just that, a copenarrative.