Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

[Read_Lives_of_Saints]

IRAN HAS 2 OPTIONS LEFT IN THIS WAR. BOTH ARE CATASTROPHIC.

Something shifted in the last few hours. Most people won't realize until it's too late.

Trump's team just leaked their peace terms to Axios.

After 3 weeks of war, Iran is now boxed into 2 choices. And every single one is a nightmare:

OPTION 1: ACCEPT THE DEAL
→ Freeze the entire missile program for 5 years
→ Reopen the Strait of Hormuz — give up the only economic weapon left
→ Promise the war won't resume — with no enforcement mechanism
→ In year 6, America has recovered, Iran has no missiles, no leverage
→ Iran becomes permanently militarily inferior in its own neighborhood
→ New Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei's legacy = surrendered what his father built

OPTION 2: REJECT THE DEAL
→ War continues for weeks or months more
→ CENTCOM already hit 8,000+ targets — 130 ships — largest navy wipeout since WWII
→ Iran's military capabilities degrade further every week
→ 40,000 sailors remain stranded, global oil crisis deepens
→ 22 countries now aligned against Iran on Hormuz — pressure intensifies daily
→ Iran fires back — already hitting Diego Garcia, nuclear facility towns — but for how long?

Let that sink in.

There is no Option 3. There is no clean exit. There is no "we resist and survive intact."

The media is showing you "peace talks starting."

They're NOT showing you that every path forward for Iran leads to a worse Iran.

Here's the most devastating question nobody is asking:

Six days ago, Iran's FM Araghchi said on CBS: "We NEVER asked for a ceasefire or negotiation."

Six days ago, Trump REJECTED ceasefire talks from Middle Eastern allies.

Now suddenly there are "peace terms" being gamed out by Kushner and Witkoff.

What changed in 6 days that makes both sides now willing to talk?

This is the most dangerous negotiation Iran has faced since the JCPOA.

Bookmark this. Come back in 5 days.

Complete rubbish.

There is no scenario for the US to hurt Iran more than the US is hurt by those actions in the aggregate, which is why Trump, and everyone else, was against this option for so long.

This war only benefits Israel's chaos strategy for the Middle East and the West, which also harms a lot of little Jews, but the Big Jews who call the shots could not care less.

 

[RedLagoon]

The oil crisis is a farce, all done to further the agenda "you will own nothing and be happy". It's not Iran that's dragging this on, our overlords want the whole world to completely collapse so they can "build it back better". Convid was the trial and the people failed miserably now this "war" is the exercise.

 

[Pravoslavac]

The oil crisis is a farce, all done to further the agenda "you will own nothing and be happy". It's not Iran that's dragging this on, our overlords want the whole world to completely collapse so they can "build it back better". Convid was the trial and the people failed miserably now this "war" is the exercise.

It certainly fits the agenda, whether Iran is a voluntary party or not is meaningless.

 

[magoo]

Wasnt opening the strait a simple military maneuver dufus?

 

[RedLagoon]

It certainly fits the agenda, whether Iran is a voluntary party or not is meaningless.

Here in Kangaroo land we're at $3 a liter for diesel while the whole country runs on it but they misteriously won't fire up our refineries when we have more oil reserves any nation could wish for...

$3 a liter is unaffordable for most in our countryside where the closest martial arts lessons are 80km away for example or where all the trains and road trains run on diesel.

Who had the most insane lockdowns and has the highest poke rates? Paterns repeating.

 

[magoo]

Iranians could´ve given some evacuation notice for women and children to leave. Of course Israelis are inhuman coackroaches. But children are innocent. Wether jewish or martians. Jews are so f stupid. Centuries and centuries of jewish retardness.

 

[LaAguilaNegra]

IRAN HAS 2 OPTIONS LEFT IN THIS WAR. BOTH ARE CATASTROPHIC.

Something shifted in the last few hours. Most people won't realize until it's too late.

Trump's team just leaked their peace terms to Axios.

After 3 weeks of war, Iran is now boxed into 2 choices. And every single one is a nightmare:

OPTION 1: ACCEPT THE DEAL
→ Freeze the entire missile program for 5 years
→ Reopen the Strait of Hormuz — give up the only economic weapon left
→ Promise the war won't resume — with no enforcement mechanism
→ In year 6, America has recovered, Iran has no missiles, no leverage
→ Iran becomes permanently militarily inferior in its own neighborhood
→ New Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei's legacy = surrendered what his father built

OPTION 2: REJECT THE DEAL
→ War continues for weeks or months more
→ CENTCOM already hit 8,000+ targets — 130 ships — largest navy wipeout since WWII
→ Iran's military capabilities degrade further every week
→ 40,000 sailors remain stranded, global oil crisis deepens
→ 22 countries now aligned against Iran on Hormuz — pressure intensifies daily
→ Iran fires back — already hitting Diego Garcia, nuclear facility towns — but for how long?

Let that sink in.

There is no Option 3. There is no clean exit. There is no "we resist and survive intact."

The media is showing you "peace talks starting."

They're NOT showing you that every path forward for Iran leads to a worse Iran.

Here's the most devastating question nobody is asking:

Six days ago, Iran's FM Araghchi said on CBS: "We NEVER asked for a ceasefire or negotiation."

Six days ago, Trump REJECTED ceasefire talks from Middle Eastern allies.

Now suddenly there are "peace terms" being gamed out by Kushner and Witkoff.

What changed in 6 days that makes both sides now willing to talk?

This is the most dangerous negotiation Iran has faced since the JCPOA.

Bookmark this. Come back in 5 days.

Patience is indeed running out. The Trump Administration feels that the Iranians are playing dirty and the hammer is about to come down. Granted, Tehran has been going full total war, have kept pace with the US on the escalation ladder and that IDGAF attitude is a big shift from its previous reconciliatory positions. Back against the wall and nowhere else to go and all that.

Having said that holding the world economy hostage - and intentionally (and unsuccessfully) attempting to undermine DC's alliance system in Europe, Asia and the Gulf has not gone down well with DC. The US' current options are either ramming open the Strait through military means thereby jeopardizing US lives, blocking maritime traffic altogether thereby involving China, start targeting Iranian civilian infrastructure to add levers of pressure, or just let it simmer and watch countries move towards DC (or Tehran) as matters become more urgent.

Seems like option 3 is for now the preferred option. Judging by Tehran continuous attempts to target Gulf energy, oil and water infrastructure it's not even an escalation but returning the favor. With the big difference that the US doesn't miss and has about 1000 times the firepower.