Iran-Israeli Conflict Thread

No, why does it matter how they look? Who started this pointless argument anyway?
IIMT did by commenting on the way the Iranian leaders looked because he wanted to make a point that he thinks they are superior since they are supposedly more Aryan looking.



Other posters then called him out on that. I thought IIMT being challenged for his ridiculous assertions (for example saying that this war is 10x worse than both Vietnam and Iraq War combined which he did earlier this week) is pretty standard operating procedure.
 
Thoughts? Keep in mind that the US IQ average has dropped because of mass migration so take that into consideration.
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Mainland China IQ is in the low to mid-80's like American blacks, but they probably get these scores from cheating by cherry picking, as there are certainly a small % who have 105 IQ, which I noticed while living there for over a decade.

Seeing how inaccurate the score for China is and that it is likely the result of cheating via cherry picking, it makes me question the average IQ statistic for any non-white country because we're the only group who prioritizes the benefits of accuracy for this information above saving face, with the possible exception of the Japanese.
 
Interesting take on the situation but it looks like there is some indication that Putin may have known this was coming after he and Trump met last August:

Immediately following the Alaska summit between Russian President Vladimir Putin and President Trump, Russia restarted Arctic-2 LNG terminals and began increasing oil production for storage on ‘floating platforms.’ President Trump met with Putin on August 15, 2025, and the curious increase in Russian production began on August 18, 2025.

In the past six months Russia has been pumping sanctioned oil and gas and storing it on ships and mobile sea platforms, seemingly (at the time) with no customers. Suddenly, against the background of the Iran conflict, all of that previously stored ‘on the water‘ production, now worth double, is authorized for global sale (in petrodollars).

Either Russian President Putin is the luckiest guy in the world, or Russia knew something.

In 2025 what Russia did following the Alaska summit did not make sense; now it does and the ramifications are stunning.

Additionally Russia has not been very strong in its response to events in Venezuela and Iran and has not jumped in at any point (despite British/European press saying Russia is providing intel to Iran -- Russia, Russia, Russia!):

The implications here are quite remarkable; however, they simultaneously explain most of the behaviors since the Iran confrontation began.

Media reports highlight that Vladimir Putin was asked about a previous joint agreement for military support between Iran and Russia and why Russia did not respond when Iran was attacked. Foreknowledge would explain that reaction.

Additionally, the Russian Federation president never responded to the Trump operation to take down Venezuelan dictator Maduro and seize control over Venezuela’s oil production.

If there was some discussion inferring that a ‘limited sanction relief’ protocol might be possible, that would explain why Russia began storing oil and gas at sea.

This fact pattern would also indicate that President Trump’s decision toward Iran was made at least six months ago, with a set of geopolitical events planned between the Alaska summit and the eventual confrontation with Iran.

To summarize:

TIMELINE: Trump and Putin meet. Three days later Russia begins pumping oil/gas and storing it at sea. President Trump then triggers the Venezuela western hemisphere security operation; Russia stays silent. President Trump then triggers the confrontation with Iran; Russia rejects involvement. And then two weeks after the Iran confrontation begins, Trump removes sanctions on Russian oil/gas “in transit” at sea.

Suddenly all of the Russian produced and stored product ‘on the water’ has greater value and new customers.

Just a coincidence? No way.

I realize there are just as many opinions and tweets flying around as there are projectiles in this conflict, but we can't deny some of the interesting developments that seems to benefit Russia here to the detriment of Europe.

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And we seem to have been caught with our pants down by Iran's counterattacks.

Or, the more likely scenario is that everything is going to plan.

The lack of second- and third-order thinking in regard to Iran's likely responses to this aggression is also totally perplexing.

Exactly. I don't think most people and "analysts" are taking into account the actual power of 5D chess future predicting computing.

(((Elon Musk))) just gave us a peek behind (((the curtain))) when he recently posted about how GROK accurately predicted this "war," which in reality is just a normie demoralization campaign and money grab by the usual suspects.

We must continually ask ourselves who does this war hurt and who does it benefit? Personally, I'm not worried, but as a white Christian American small business owner I can already feel the negative effects of this unnecessary for profit war on my business and personal finances.

JQ Mission Accomplished.
 
Trump woke up grumpy. "Watch what happens to these deranged scumbags today".




Senators Hollen and Warren demand Hegseth's resignation.




Scott Bessent is yanked from a live interview to see Trump and returns looking a bit shaken. This is possibly over the lifting of Russian sanctions or his previous statement on the US providing escorts to shipping, "when it becomes possible to do so".

 
Interesting take on the situation but it looks like there is some indication that Putin may have known this was coming after he and Trump met last August:
I would not at all be surprised if a handshake agreement was made between Trump and Putin, where the U.S. agreed to take its foot off the gas in Ukraine and offer a degree of sanctions relief, in exchange for Russia agreeing to remain mostly on the sidelines if the U.S. and Israel moved against Iran. Putin cares much more about successfully wrapping up the Ukraine war and securing Russia's long term economic and political security than he does about Moscow's loose alliance with Iran. This would also help to explain why Trump and Netanyahu felt emboldened to attack Iran: they believed that with Russia standing down, they could quickly eliminate Khamenai and trigger regime change with little blowback. In hindsight, it is clear they underestimated both Iranian resolve and its retaliatory capabilities.
 
Good read from Foreign Affairs.


If the U.S. and Israel do not manage to find an off-ramp rather quickly (say within the next month or so), I fear they will become trapped in an escalatory spiral that ends either with a massive ground campaign or the use of nuclear weapons. Both of these outcomes would be catastrophic (the former primarily for the U.S., the latter for the entire world) and any reasonable person would recognize they must be avoided at all costs. Unfortunately, such common sense seems to be in short supply between Trump and Netanyahu, who blundered their way into this war against the recommendations of their military and intelligence experts, and who - shockingly - seem to have had no actual plan beyond simply killing Khamenai.

As far as I can tell, literally the entire idea was simply, "Let's kill Khamenai and as much of the other leadership as possible and hope that this triggers regime change." Anyone familiar with the religion and culture of Shia Iran, and particularly with the structure of the IRGC, could have told you that this plan had extremely low odds of success, and was therefore a total long shot. If it was undertaken at all, it should have been done so knowing from the start that it would be a limited operation similar to last year's attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, and the killing of Soleimani in 2020. The idea that they would simply wage an open-ended air war against Iran with no clear objective or victory condition is preposterous, and yet that seems to be what has happened.

The lack of second- and third-order thinking in regard to Iran's likely responses to this aggression is also totally perplexing. We know the Iranians have a massive stockpile of missiles and drones. We know the logistical importance of the Straight of Hormuz. We know the relatively vulnerability of U.S. and Israeli assets in the Middle East. And we seem to have been caught with our pants down by Iran's counterattacks. The only way this makes any sense is if the U.S. and Israel assumed that Iran was simply going to roll over almost immediately in response to the initial attacks and the death of the Supreme Leader. And this, as I pointed out above, simply delusional. A totally imbecilic notion that could and should have been dispelled almost immediately by briefings from Iran experts in the military and CIA. I have no doubt that these briefings were made, and that these truths were stated plainly. Which means that they were purposely ignored. This is grand malfeasance by Trump and Netanyahu, and if this foolish adventure isn't wrapped up very soon, not only is it going to destroy the presidencies and legacies of both Trump and Netanyahu, it risks inflicting catastrophic and permanent damage on both the U.S. and Israel as a whole.
Careful with Foreign Affairs. It used to be a well respected publication. But like most publications, they've woken in previous years. They share many people with the Atlantic.

The author Kahl (is he ((())) )? was appointed by Obama and Biden, so keep that in mind as well in terms of agenda.

I don't tihnk he's necessarily wrong, just wanted to point out his past - and what's he's trying to accomplish.
 
IIMT did by commenting on the way the Iranian leaders looked because he wanted to make a point that he thinks they are superior since they are supposedly more Aryan looking.



Other posters then called him out on that. I thought IIMT being challenged for his ridiculous assertions (for example saying that this war is 10x worse than both Vietnam and Iraq War combined which he did earlier this week) is pretty standard operating procedure.
It will be 10 times worse if we don't find an off ramp. No need to strawman. I am sorry that Iranians are considered Caucasian, no they are not White, White is reserved for European, and they would be closer related than Africans or Hispanics or Indians, or any other Asians.
 
It will be 10 times worse if we don't find an off ramp. No need to strawman. I am sorry that Iranians are considered Caucasian, no they are not White, White is reserved for European, and they would be closer related than Africans or Hispanics or Indians, or any other Asians.
Classic IIIMT maneuver. He gets called out on an over the top ridiculous claim and then modifies once it's exposed as being silly. It's basically similar to how during the last war he said Tel Aviv wasn't going to exist and then when he was called out on the modified it to "well the Iranians were compassionate and wise and decided to hold back right before destroying the city!" Look at his original post, he just simply said "Iran is 10x worse than Vietnam and Iraq" with nothing about it's only if there's no off ramp. He only mentioned "if there's an off ramp" once he was called out.

By the way this is actually good why people "follow him around" the forum because if people don't (also people don't "follow him around", it's just that he posts so much you can't avoid his posts unless you only stick to the Christian forums), then his delusional takes will remained unchallenged and he won't be forced to walk to them back.
 
Remember Kushner's face when the very dim Steve Witkoff gave the game away and revealed they had been working on conquering and re-structuring Gaza BEFORE the magic paraglider attack of October 7?
He's literally the meme:

Suspicious Monkey GIF by MOODMAN
 
Classic IIIMT maneuver. He gets called out on an over the top ridiculous claim and then modifies once it's exposed as being silly. It's basically similar to how during the last war he said Tel Aviv wasn't going to exist and then when he was called out on the modified it to "well the Iranians were compassionate and wise and decided to hold back right before destroying the city!" Look at his original post, he just simply said "Iran is 10x worse than Vietnam and Iraq" with nothing about it's only if there's no off ramp. He only mentioned "if there's an off ramp" once he was called out.

By the way this is actually good why people "follow him around" the forum because if people don't (also people don't "follow him around", it's just that he posts so much you can't avoid his posts unless you only stick to the Christian forums), then his delusional takes will remained unchallenged and he won't be forced to walk to them back.

Iran is much worse than Vietnam and Iraq. Vietnam never threatened the world economy, didn't make its own advanced drones, had no long range stand off weaponry, and Iraq only had a few hundred Scuds, and is 1/3 the size with mostly flat terrain, and was ruled by a minority dictator.

Iran does have smarter people and an industrial base with over 1 million cars produced annually.

Ironically enough, if this war keeps going for a year or more, the main US weapon against Iran and its regional allies will be LUCAS copies of Iranian Shaheds.
 
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Iran is much worse than Vietnam and Iraq. Vietnam never threatened the world economy, didn't make its own advanced drones, had no long range stand off weaponry, and Iraq only had a few hundred Scuds, and is 1/3 the size with mostly flat terrain, ruled by a minority dictator.
How destructive Iran ends up being, no one knows. I know Trump has said he wants to find an off ramp. If he can, then this thing will not be all that big of a deal and just a few weeks of news cycling. If he can't, then this thing has the potential to destroy the US empire forever. The USA of 2026 is a shell of its former self, and Iran is way more powerful than Iraq and Vietnam combined.
 
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