Finding a traditional wife abroad

[analyst_green]

I personally prefer the non EU Balkan countries, like Serbia, Bosnia (the Christian dominated part), Montenegro, over Russia because I find the cultural and climate jump to Russia pretty big

I think when you look beyond the surface, the Balkans may actually be more alien to Anglos than Russia. The Balkans, and especially those countries, tend to be highly collectivist and extroverted. Your average American with his extremely individualistic mentality and need for privacy may not appreciate that. In Bulgaria, for example, I sometimes get annoyed by nosy people that try to stick their hands where they don't belong.

The problem is, as I've stated, the number of 6.5s and up (6.5 or late bloomer 7 is probably the best wife, where she will really treat you well and you're attracted but you don't have to do ridiculous things or spend/run through hoops to maintain her like an "8") in the west is in the low single %, like 1-3.

I wouldn't say it's quite that bad. Maybe you live in DC or something but "6.5" for me is still at least 10%. Of course in the '70s it would have been much more.

It is very shocking to visit certain other countries where female beauty and feminity is the norm rather than the exception. Ukraine is the most striking example, though after 30 their looks fade extremely fast. Women in Western or Balkan countries usually age more gracefully.

 

[Blade Runner]

Maybe you live in DC or something but "6.5" for me is still at least 10%.

1 out of 10? You must be hanging around lots of 18-23 year old women, then.

Then we have the whole pleasant and will actually do something of value in your life, rather than expect the other way around.

What was the point of me being successful and making six figures again, ladies?

 

[analyst_green]

1 out of 10? You must be hanging around lots of 18-23 year old women, then.

Then we have the whole pleasant and will actually do something of value in your life, rather than expect the other way around.

What was the point of me being successful and making six figures again, ladies?

Admittedly I wasn't considering all the 60 or 70-year-old grandmas when doing the math, just women younger than me. I see how you get down to 1%

Yes, when you go beyond skin deep, the number dwindles rapidly.

 

[ginsu]

since this is one of the more popular dating threads i have this question: what are some of the countries where women are more open to relationships with age gaps ?. In particular i am personally interested in places like the med / balkans / bulgaria / argentina, southern part of brazil as options to relocate for cultural and ethnic reasons. How is dating, wife potential and living for the future in these areas compared to the west.

 

[Joost]

since this is one of the more popular dating threads i have this question: what are some of the countries where women are more open to relationships with age gaps ?. In particular i am personally interested in places like the med / balkans / bulgaria / argentina, southern part of brazil as options to relocate for cultural and ethnic reasons. How is dating, wife potential and living for the future in these areas compared to the west.

In South America, an age gap of ten years is not frowned upon. It also depends on what you bring to the table. To be older today, it’s not about being financially supportive; you have to be physically in good shape (for your age) and be socially capable. Going to a bar with a fancy car won’t get you laid. At least not with somebody you could present to your friends and family.

As far as quality of life, you’ll be surprised how some nations are way more developed than the States. Living in a good neighborhood in Argentina is much better than living in the Bronx or Kansas.

 

[Blade Runner]

Living in a good neighborhood in Argentina is much better than living in the Bronx or Kansas.

I've heard good things, just am curious about how leftists Argentine women are, and how safe it will be as Milei resets some of the profligate spending they have gotten used to, thought it was little. Finding the good balance of economy where women actually need a man and are thus normal, and that not going too far so as to make the place unsafe, is the key to LatAm. It's what makes Europe better in general, but for the western propaganda and some better economies historically. Eastern Europe can be the best, but it's at a crossroads right now, too, and it's harder to build connections out of thing, in my view.

 

[Joost]

I've heard good things, just am curious about how leftists Argentine women are, and how safe it will be as Milei resets some of the profligate spending they have gotten used to, thought it was little. Finding the good balance of economy where women actually need a man and are thus normal, and that not going too far so as to make the place unsafe, is the key to LatAm. It's what makes Europe better in general, but for the western propaganda and some better economies historically. Eastern Europe can be the best, but it's at a crossroads right now, too, and it's harder to build connections out of thing, in my view.

I think the economy won’t create such effect short term.

Girls in Argentina are pretty but hysterical. They can be moody and not make your life easy.

Looks is very important for me. But compare to Colombia; you can get 80% of the look but with a 500% better personality.

I lived in Argentina for many years. Mid 2000s.

 

[Australia Sucks]

For sure Colombian women are beautiful and they are far less insufferable than Argentinian girls. But I still found Colombian girls to be a pain in the arse and very entitled. In general Latina girls almost irrespective of the country are just trashy in terms of their behavior and morals and are entitled princesses. They lack class, are dumb and have no honour or ethics. That goes for the working class girls, the middle class girls and the upper class girls equally.

Latinas pretty much across all the countries are basically only good for sex or short term romances not for anything serious. At least that was my personal experience from spending time in Peru, Chile, Colombia and Mexico. Don't get me wrong Latinas are less horrid than Anglo girls but it would still be a terrible idea to go wife hunting in Latin America.

 

[Australia Sucks]

I think the economy won’t create such effect short term.

Yes I agree. Argentinian women are very stubborn. It will likely take at least 5 years of destitute poverty before they relent and readjust their attitudes to more realistic levels suited to the new situation.

 

[Australia Sucks]

https://bowtiedpassport.io/p/why-are-latinas-so-toxic

 

[magoo]

A traditional wife will not want a foreigner. If she´s traditional. She will want someone she grew up with. The premisse is wrong. It would probably be a safer bet to search second generation catholic girls in your own country. But like everything I could be wrong.

The second best bet if indeed you go abroad would be to create a company. And hire the girls you want. In latin countries. It could work. But a traditional wife. I mean. It won´t be easy.

 

[Blade Runner]

The second best bet if indeed you go abroad would be to create a company. And hire the girls you want. In latin countries. It could work.

I laughed when I first read this, well done sir. Well done.

 

[PurpleUrkel]

Latinas pretty much across all the countries are basically only good for sex

This is not necessarily true. Many primitive Latinas deep off the main grid in smaller towns are still back-in-time Catholics that tolerate wide age gaps (with finances) and are still fairly chaste, educated, normal, and chill. Buenos Aires, Bogota, Mexico City, and big cities of that ilk, in terms of shallow, modern day clown world sluttiness, are going to have the same problems as London, Sydney, NYC, San Fran, and LA.

 

[Rax Moscow]

since this is one of the more popular dating threads i have this question: what are some of the countries where women are more open to relationships with age gaps ?.

In general, you want to focus on the countries in white here:

You can use this map to answer lots of questions about "What country is good for...."

 

[Australia Sucks]

This is not necessarily true. Many primitive Latinas deep off the main grid in smaller towns are still back-in-time Catholics that tolerate wide age gaps (with finances) and are still fairly chaste, educated, normal, and chill. Buenos Aires, Bogota, Mexico City, and big cities of that ilk, in terms of shallow, modern day clown world sluttiness, are going to have the same problems as London, Sydney, NYC, San Fran, and LA.

I did not find this to be the case. I visited a decent number of small towns in Latin America. Very few traditional Catholics under 30 even in small towns. Most of those traditional Catholic women you find in small towns will be 40+ and usually already married. The younger generation are simply not religious in most of Latin America even in small towns. At best they will be nominal Christians. If you want serious Christian women of a younger age perhaps rural bible belt America or Poland, etc might be a better choice than rural Latin America.

I mean unless you are taking about some special case small town in Latin America which is filled with Mennonites or something of that nature. But in general they aren't much more conservative than the bigger cities.

 

[Australia Sucks]

Due to hypocritical busybodies I had some of my other threads on related topics shut down so I’ll have to post on this thread.

I can see the moderation of this forum is spiralling downward with the same ego, tyranny and hypocrisy which affected the RooshV forum in its final few years. But for now it’s still bearable to post on the forum so I will continue to post for now despite the challenges.

 

[Australia Sucks]

I recently spent a few weeks in Kosovo and realised that Albanians are extremely nationalistic and it’s extremely rare to find an Albanian woman who will date or marry a foreigner, so basically Albanian women are off the table. Also Albanians kind of seem like a low IQ culture and not the most pleasant people to deal with.

I’m currently in North Macedonia and have been here for an almost a week. In general overall I prefer Macedonian people over Albanian people (a lot could be said about this topic). Macedonian girls are more open minded towards dating or marrying a foreigner but the general Balkans mentality seems to be that a girl should either know you for a long time before accepting a date or should be introduced by somebody close to her. Without this you basically can hardly get dates at all.

The flip side of this is how long the girl has known you or if you have been introduced and vouched for by the right person seem to be the only real criteria that most women have here in North Macedonia because I keep seeing a lot of loser local men with top tier girls. Women here seem to have the mindset of “better the devil you know”. So I guess if you live here long term and get fully integrated into society you can have your pick of women because they seem to have no standards.

I just want to hear to e thoughts of others who are familiar with the Balkans on what are the top spots in the Balkans for wife hunting and the nuances of different Balkans countries etc

 

[san26]

I recently spent a few weeks in Kosovo and realised that Albanians are extremely nationalistic and it’s extremely rare to find an Albanian woman who will date or marry a foreigner, so basically Albanian women are off the table. Also Albanians kind of seem like a low IQ culture and not the most pleasant people to deal with.

I’m currently in North Macedonia and have been here for an almost a week. In general overall I prefer Macedonian people over Albanian people (a lot could be said about this topic). Macedonian girls are more open minded towards dating or marrying a foreigner but the general Balkans mentality seems to be that a girl should either know you for a long time before accepting a date or should be introduced by somebody close to her. Without this you basically can hardly get dates at all.

The flip side of this is how long the girl has known you or if you have been introduced and vouched for by the right person seem to be the only real criteria that most women have here in North Macedonia because I keep seeing a lot of loser local men with top tier girls. Women here seem to have the mindset of “better the devil you know”. So I guess if you live here long term and get fully integrated into society you can have your pick of women because they seem to have no standards.

I just want to hear to e thoughts of others who are familiar with the Balkans on what are the top spots in the Balkans for wife hunting and the nuances of different Balkans countries etc

Which part of North Macedonia are you in? You always do in person approaches or are you using dating apps? Will you be visiting Bulgaria, Romania, and Moldova ?

 

[Australia Sucks]

I currently in Skopje. Yes I am doing only in person approaches.

I might visit other countries in future trips but for now I’ll just be staying in Macedonia visiting different cities and doing some sightseeing combined with game.

 

[FrancisK]

I recently spent a few weeks in Kosovo and realised that Albanians are extremely nationalistic and it’s extremely rare to find an Albanian woman who will date or marry a foreigner, so basically Albanian women are off the table. Also Albanians kind of seem like a low IQ culture and not the most pleasant people to deal with.

I’m currently in North Macedonia and have been here for an almost a week. In general overall I prefer Macedonian people over Albanian people (a lot could be said about this topic). Macedonian girls are more open minded towards dating or marrying a foreigner but the general Balkans mentality seems to be that a girl should either know you for a long time before accepting a date or should be introduced by somebody close to her. Without this you basically can hardly get dates at all.

The flip side of this is how long the girl has known you or if you have been introduced and vouched for by the right person seem to be the only real criteria that most women have here in North Macedonia because I keep seeing a lot of loser local men with top tier girls. Women here seem to have the mindset of “better the devil you know”. So I guess if you live here long term and get fully integrated into society you can have your pick of women because they seem to have no standards.

I just want to hear to e thoughts of others who are familiar with the Balkans on what are the top spots in the Balkans for wife hunting and the nuances of different Balkans countries etc

They would rather marry what you call a "loser" than date outside their culture and be branded for the rest of their lives taking a chance on the random guy who showed up in their country trying to pick them up, it seems you're having trouble grasping this concept thinking you're still in the west....it's actually the opposite of not having standards and it has nothing to do with how long you've lived there.