Elon Musk Thread

Sandalwood Peak said:
Look on the bright side, they don’t have to pass the DOGE cuts anymore. How convenient. A falling out with the only guy who has done anything. Luckily he was temp too. The victories just fall into the Democrat hands, it’s truly remarkable how it works.
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Almost like this is all fake, and a way to distract the people from pointing a finger at who really is to blame. One of the most famous men in history wrote about this over 100 years ago, and the game is still being played and blue pilled conservatives are falling for it again.
 
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I would love to see him deported to China, so he can help the Iranians completely destroy the Abraham Accords and then pay bribe the right people to bring lardass Bannon to China to face crimes against humanity. The dumb fat guy doesn't realize people are no longer buying the Trump fraud, it is over.

 
Read_Lives_of_Saints said:
"Musk’s behaviour exemplifies, albeit on a larger scale, a common failing among people who get into dissident politics.

What tends to happen is someone gets involved with a very idealistic mindset and a lot of enthusiasm for the change they envision they are going to enact or facilitate. Often they make personal sacrifices or pay some other cost— they put their skin in the game and they often do so unnecessarily without properly assessing the risk/reward ratio (because their idealism makes them believe their sacrifices will definitely lead to victory or at least noticeably moving the needle).

Then they are confronted with the harsh reality that no one shares their idealism, that no one cares about their sacrifices, that the political machine is far too large to be moved by their efforts (even someone with as much power and money as Musk), and then to add insult to injury, nobody even appreciates what they tried to do.

They then end up bitter and angry because they feel they weren’t properly rewarded for their efforts and risk.

What every idealistic, would-be dissident fails to understand is that going up against the system isn’t something you do because you want recognition or rewards. But because they go into it with the expectation of victory, they also have the expectation that they will be seen as a hero, even if just on a small scale.

And the reality is that nobody cares and your efforts are usually for nothing. Or if not for nothing, at least you are unable to see the ripple effect that your actions will have had and they certainly don’t result in praise and acknowledgement.

Musk is understandably butthurt, but he set himself up for this with unrealistic expectations.

If you want to be a dissident against the system, you better be going into it with the mentality but this is a sacrifice for which you will reap no rewards and pay only costs.

And if you are not happy to do that and toil in obscurity simply because it is the right thing to do and your integrity will let you do no less, then it’s better that you don’t put your skin in the game in the first place than end up whining because you feel like you didn’t get your due."
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A perfect example of a White man's pride completely destroying himself and everything he worked for. But let's keep pretending Whites are one big happy tribe.

I've seen this EXACT same thing play out in Republican circles for years when I worked in politics, and my father tells me it's always been this way. This is why Talmuds rule. The backstabbing is endless.

Talmudic Jews are motivated by greed more than pride, so they will swallow their humiliation if it means they can make more money or power. This is how they stick together, they are willing to set aside disagreements if it means they get more.

Elon would have been better off in every way if he shut his mouth, but he's gone nuclear over this one bill in Congress. He could have easily just voiced his disapproval and left it at that, but instead he's having a total meltdown and burning bridges left and right. There's absolutely no reason he should be self-destructing right now, but he is, because his pride has been insulted and there's no reasoning with him now.
 
Samseau said:
A perfect example of a White man's pride completely destroying himself and everything he worked for. But let's keep pretending Whites are one big happy tribe.

I've seen this EXACT same thing play out in Republican circles for years when I worked in politics, and my father tells me it's always been this way. This is why Talmuds rule. The backstabbing is endless.

Talmudic Jews are motivated by greed more than pride, so they will swallow their humiliation if it means they can make more money or power. This is how they stick together, they are willing to set aside disagreements if it means they get more.

Elon would have been better off in every way if he shut his mouth, but he's gone nuclear over this one bill in Congress. He could have easily just voiced his disapproval and left it at that, but instead he's having a total meltdown and burning bridges left and right. There's absolutely no reason he should be self-destructing right now, but he is, because his pride has been insulted and there's no reasoning with him now.
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Probably because Elon realizes that there is no fixing this and no more time to just kick the can down the road and really thought it could be done within the system. The guys I listen to were able to warn me back in 2017 it is all fake. A lot more are just learning it now, and there is a stage where it is rage inducing, it is part of the 5 steps of grief.

The good thing is, now enough have gone through it or are going through it, that this whole fake uniparty system will soon have no buyers remaining.

 
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An article with a good perspective on the entire issue (the author of the article predicted the Elon split in January):

theconservativetreehouse.com

Be Patient, Retain Integrity, The Tide Is Shifting in Our Favor - The Last Refuge

You Treepers know my top two priorities in the world of politics: Economic Nationalism (MAGAnomics), and capital letter Liberty, the fight against the surveillance state. In these endeavors the “Tech Bros” are opposed to our positions. President Trump is focused on #1, economic nationalism. He...
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But there is good news. Now that Elon Musk has self-detonated, the “Tech Bros” have lost a key source of influence. The Peter Thiel, David Sacks, Elon Musk, JD Vance and Palantir objective of a comprehensive surveillance state is weakened by President Trump telling Musk to get lost. This is good, and we finally have reason to be optimistic. We need to be patient.
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As President Trump works through the priorities of the BBB, ongoing trade negotiations, decoupling from China, working toward the dissolution of the USMCA etc., he is also working through the Ukraine-Russia conflict, the Israel-Gaza conflict, the Iran nuclear issues and other geopolitical events. Once those challenges are majority cleared, hopefully that’s when we will see a confrontation of the surveillance state surface.
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Based on what Trump is dealing with, I can't imagine the amount of decision-making and analysis this kind of a workload is.

Patience at the situation is emphasized and I think we need to realize things don't get fixed overnight. There are a lot of pieces moving with Trump's administration and they seem to be good. It's been pointed out that dealing with immigration before we deal with debt is more important. We have to fix the dam before we can take care of things downstream, however imperfect.

Elon may also be upset with this bill so strongly because he doesn't benefit from it. If you control immigration, ultimately you have to pay workers more as the legal, home-based population is stabilized. This may have set him off and he's using the debt as a distraction. If you can't fix the inflow of free-takers, then how can you deal with debt and spending? This cuts one of the major financial spigots off and congress has to deal with a new reality of home-based wage earners.

Musk has self-detonated much earlier than I expected. That is awesome, and I carry a big smile today thanking our loving God for His favor, His timing, His unfolding.

Eventually President Trump will see the Palantir constructs that have been laid around the administration by Machiavellian elements. Trump’s hindsight will then be a weapon as he starts asking the big questions to those who have sat silently as the constructs have unfolded.

Live your very best life, it is the only one you have.
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It_Is_My_Time said:
I would love to see him deported to China, so he can help the Iranians completely destroy the Abraham Accords and then pay bribe the right people to bring lardass Bannon to China to face crimes against humanity. The dumb fat guy doesn't realize people are no longer buying the Trump fraud, it is over.

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Bannon spewing nonsense as usual.

Musk is a US citizen and cannot be deported.


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Samseau said:
Elon would have been better off in every way if he shut his mouth, but he's gone nuclear over this one bill in Congress. He could have easily just voiced his disapproval and left it at that, but instead he's having a total meltdown and burning bridges left and right. There's absolutely no reason he should be self-destructing right now, but he is, because his pride has been insulted and there's no reasoning with him now.
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I think Musk has significant political backing behind the scenes, otherwise he wouldn't be acting like this.
Musk has got decades of involvement with future US governments ahead, plus a potential political future, while Trump is out for good in 3.5 years...when he will be almost 82 years old.
 
Caduceus said:
I think Musk has significant political backing behind the scenes, otherwise he wouldn't be acting like this.
Musk has got decades of involvement with future US governments ahead, plus a potential political future, while Trump is out for good in 3.5 years...when he will be almost 82 years old.
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I agree with this, but also I think Musk is right to hate the spending bill. It's insane how this is larded with spending. Musk came in to do DOGE, because he thinks the US government will go bankrupt otherwise, and he's furious to see that the GOP congress is on a bigger spending binge than even the Dems.

I don't understand where Trump is coming from on this. Trump should be releasing the Epstein files, and exposing all the corrupt Dems and Republicans who are preventing spending cuts. Instead, Trump acts like he's a swamp creature that wants the big spending to continue.

Separate from the substantive issues in their conflict, they both seem to be acting like naughty children the way they're attacking each other. I suppose Trump has always been this way. It's fine when he treats swamp creatures like Nancy Pelosi or CNN like this, but he shouldn't be this way with his key allies and supporters. Musk should know better than to act so petty as well.
 
Thomas More said:
I agree with this, but also I think Musk is right to hate the spending bill. It's insane how this is larded with spending. Musk came in to do DOGE, because he thinks the US government will go bankrupt otherwise, and he's furious to see that the GOP congress is on a bigger spending binge than even the Dems.

I don't understand where Trump is coming from on this. Trump should be releasing the Epstein files, and exposing all the corrupt Dems and Republicans who are preventing spending cuts. Instead, Trump acts like he's a swamp creature that wants the big spending to continue.

Separate from the substantive issues in their conflict, they both seem to be acting like naughty children the way they're attacking each other. I suppose Trump has always been this way. It's fine when he treats swamp creatures like Nancy Pelosi or CNN like this, but he shouldn't be this way with his key allies and supporters. Musk should know better than to act so petty as well.
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I give Elon a pass, because red pill rage is a real thing, I see a lot go through it when they realize voting will change nothing, and lucky for most of us we don't have an entire social media platform to express this rage to the entire globe.

The question is, how out of touch are these elites to still think voting will change anything? And if they are that out of touch, how likely are the idiots to start a war with Iran not realizing how unpopular it would be.?
 
I understand why Elon is upset but clashing against Trump shows how socially inept he is. He thinks he is responsible for Trump's victory. To say it publicly shows that he thinks he can control Trump. He was constantly in the White House bossing around and probably treating Trump like an employee.

I agree with him about government spending but disagree with the way he dealt with it.
 
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